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Yanns 
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 Topic: Six degrees of Inner Turbulence
Posted: April 29 2005 at 17:04 |
Just got it like 5-6 days ago. I really love it. The 42 minute song itself is brilliant. 
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richardh
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 17:49 |
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Its nice that DT actually took the shackles off Jordan Rudess ..at least before clamping them back on again for TOT.
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Progger
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 17:53 |
A great prog album  . I like it better than Scenes From A Memory. Let's hope the new album is a return to form after the mess of TOT 
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Yanns
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 18:29 |
Yeah, I hope it's more like this album than really, really heavy stuff.
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Peter
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 20:45 |
 Six tracks of utter flatulence....
Edited by Peter
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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chorus of one
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 23:15 |
Weak album. Just goes to show, these guys can't do metal or prog! 
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muffley_mirkin
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Posted: April 30 2005 at 04:47 |
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I hope the new album has less Rudess on it. Great player but less is
definetly more. I have grown to like TOT took a while though.
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Andhi
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Posted: April 30 2005 at 10:54 |
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It's my favourite Dream Theater album. I don't think there are any dud tracks there, and it's much more thought provoking that most of their other stuff. Both discs are great.
I was disappointed when I found out how metal Train of Thought is.
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It's only knock and knowall, but I like it...
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King of Loss
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Joined: April 21 2005
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 19:55 |
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About Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, I thought the 42 minute long song is amazingly beautiful and I really loved it, but then the other part of the album wasn't really anything special. Yes, some of the songs on the other disc like The Glass Prison was maybe a bit too heavy for you Prog Rockers, but I have to say it is miles ahead of what Rush has done recently or later ELP. It wasn't much of a change from the "older Dt formula" except the songwriting has changed or somewhat changed. However, I do not enjoy this album as much as the earlier albums Awake or IAW and definitely not as much as SFAM, however it is a pretty good album overall, with a couple of really bland parts, but I can't complain too much. Overall a really interesting and exciting album. The second disc is just a brilliant piece of songwriting. CAN'T WAIT FOR OCTAVARIUM
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 21:25 |
People was disturbed when they were 5 threads about ELP, now we have 6 about Dream Theater.
At least ELP is one of the greatest prog' bands and has earned that right.
Please move all DT threads to prog' metal or better create a section for Dream Theater, so we are not forced to have so many threads about a non prog band.
Iván
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 21:36 |
 ivan_2068 wrote:
People was disturbed when they were 5 threads about ELP, now we have 6 about Dream Theater.
At least ELP is one of the greatest prog' bands and has earned that right.
Please move all DT threads to prog' metal or better create a section for Dream Theater, so we are not forced to have so many threads about a non prog band.
Iván
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There is no argument, but Dream Theater is definitely a Progressive band. You may not like the way that Progressive Rock/Metal is evolving, then good for you, at least everything does not like the same, old stuff.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 21:44 |
- I don't only like old stuff, there are great new Progressive bands that you probably never heard of or simply don't care about.
- I don't think Progressive Rock is evolving towards Metal.
- I think Dream Theater a band formed by good musicians but without any structure
- I don't think Dream Theater is Progressive Rock band and nobody will convince me.
This is the Prog Archives Forum, not the Dream Theater forum, 90% people here don't like Dream Theater, why should we have to accept 6 threads (and a couple more in other sections) of a band most people here don't like.
There's a Prog Metal Forum, move there all Dream Theater threads, nobody is going to bother you.
Iván
PS: Just noticed there are no prog sub genre sections any more, I believe we're condemned to continue watching the overflow of DT threads.
Edited by ivan_2068
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ShaggyMcShagg7
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 22:33 |
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Good album, as is ToT. It's true that both albums are fairly heavy, but it sounds like all of you ToT haters expect an IM&W or Awake clone.
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Juan
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 00:03 |
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yiauw!!!!!!!1
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Dear Ophelia: in thy orisons may my sins be remembered
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eriksalkeld
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 01:25 |
Till now i can't understand why there is so much hatred over Dream Theater, they are great musicians, they make great music, prog or not, and not all their music can be considered metal, but prog, of course it is. If prog is to "break the rules", to be authentic and intimate with music then they are, they were metal-heads before and they couldn't change that, so what? it is surely prog because they are progressing in what metal is, have you heard the musical mess that bands like Slayer, Cannibal Corpse and all that pile of satan oriented headbanger music is? ok then, what do you prefer? Dream Theater is for sure developing a better metal style, and that is progressive for me, "progressive metal" in this case.
But by any means, as Ivan said, progressive rock is evolving into prog metal, that's never going to happen, and if it does, it would be a deep shame.
Now, about SDOIT, it is one of my personal TOP 3 DT albums (with I&W and SFAM), CD1 is interesting and has some great songs like The Glass Prison and Blind Faith, for this side i'll give 3 stars. But then comes the SDOIT suite in CD2, and now THAT'S a masterpiece, i love it. I made a review about it some time ago.
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Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien.
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Valarius
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 03:18 |
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6DOIT is FOOKING AWESOME!!! I love that album so much. "The Glass Prison" is one of my favourite songs!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 05:54 |
Cd2 of 6DIOIT is progressive rock in my opinion, and its really great. I even prefer it to SFAM.
CD1 is more metalish, but contains some of their best songs. A truly great album in all. Something for everyone.
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henri_ds
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 12:06 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
- I don't only like old stuff, there are great new Progressive bands that you probably never heard of or simply don't care about.
- I don't think Progressive Rock is evolving towards Metal.
- I think Dream Theater a band formed by good musicians but without any structure
- I don't think Dream Theater is Progressive Rock band and nobody will convince me.
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One word :
Progsnob  !!!!!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 14:29 |
henri_ds wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
- I don't only like old stuff, there are great new Progressive bands that you probably never heard of or simply don't care about.
- I don't think Progressive Rock is evolving towards Metal.
- I think Dream Theater a band formed by good musicians but without any structure
- I don't think Dream Theater is Progressive Rock band and nobody will convince me.
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One word :
Progsnob !!!!!
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The pot says to the kettle  , I'm not the one starting threads saying Dream Theater is the best band of the world and over flowing a Progressibve forum with threads about a metal band.
Why Prog snob, because I don't think the natural evolution of Prog is Metal, because I like new Prog bands, because I think DT has no structure or maybe because its's a dogma that Dream Theater is Prog'?
If those are your reasons, I'm proud to be a progsnob.
Iván
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 19:31 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
because I think DT has no structure or maybe because its's a dogma that Dream Theater is Prog'? |
It is me but it is you but almost ALL DT ALBUMS have BETTER STRUCTURE than most Prog Rock albums? If Images and Words has "bad" structure or even a word like "bad" can even associate with that album, I think I'll go eat some freshly powdered dog sh*t.
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