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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 21:47

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

Kraan or Cacklebury
that is the question, for me Kraan smokes the kids,
England is best to stick with their output from the
kings of progressive: Moodies, Pink Floyd, Yes,
Genesis, ELP, Jethro Tull and Brian Eno.

The french smoked your knickers in progressive
fusion, face it you are not superior you are a
contributor!

Tell you the truth bryan im not really for your common garden progalites such as ELP,YES,GENESIS for everyday listerning,don't get me wrong i love the bands...i'm more of an experimental & proto-prog man from the UK of course.
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Points: 663 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 07:14
Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

[QUOTE=Petra]

Petra start with Live (Kraan's 5th album - EMI
Germany have remastered it in lasted 4 years)
- which DB has omitted, but IMHO I feel is superior to
the Kraan studio albums listed. Long work outs of
tunes from earlier albums and  their 6th (Helmut
Hattler's bass is resounding throughout) - I recently 
added to my Kraan collection and now have the first
7 albums.


In passing DB has listed an excellent collection of
Kraan and Canterbury  albums, all worth seeking out
and listening to.



Your right Dick the live is great, im just a studio
album guy. Kraan are good enough musicians to
make their live performances superior. I concer!
I must say that their 4 best studio albums are equal
and diverse as the 4 best Canterbury albums from
all the combind artists. IMO!

But I am retired as a musician! Qualtiy vs Quantity.


Dick- what is their 5th studio album called?

DB..Ive managed to listen to a recent live (bootleg 2002) recording of Kraan and am really impressed although the vocals were a little shaky i adore all the noodling and want to hear more .
Listened to Soft Machine-Third last night too and still prefer Canterbury



Don't hate me
I'm not special like you
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Points: 3323 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 11:38

hmmmmm, wonder what a 2002 bootleg live
recording of Henry Cow would sound like?


a traffic jam in downtown Manhattan?



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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 11:55
Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

I actually really like Good Morning, but I cant find a copy these dayz!



Good morning is fantastic but ''This is the happiest time of our lives'' is his best for me.But 'Bannana moon' has a feast of artists playing..Rob Wyatt etc.


Excellent.




I prefer Good morning

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Points: 1127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 19:49

Kraan is still going (somewhat) strong.They put out a new album in 2003.It is excellent.

I have been a huge fan of them since 78 and have seen them a few times, last at progday in 2002 i think it was ,and they were very well received.So well ,that they were invited  to Nearfest the following year.

OK,so they can sound a bit quirky and them singing in english is not the best.

But as instrumentalists ,they are up there fershure.

They have a great website  www.kraan.dk  where there is a ton of history and inf.

check'em out
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Points: 3323 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 19:53
I dont think their english is bad, they are 90-95% on,
waayyy better than most! I dont think their is a classic
italian prog band that matches them in english. No
contest!

At least they are coherant spacey lyrics, as opposed
to garbage pail everywhere everything.
I would say lyrically they are years ahead of say
Rush!

I chose Kraan for this thread to point out that if you
take 4 Kraan albums vs 4 of the best Canterbury
albums from any band you will find as much diversity
in the Kraan albums as their is in the 4 Canterbury
albums.

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Points: 1127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 21:43

By the way.In case you did not know.(and if you care)

In the 90es Kraan was off,and Helmutt Hattler had a new duo with the last albums (Kraans)Keyboard/trumpet player Joo Kraus.They put out about 6-7 discs,which are unique.Jazzy/triphop/rappy/loungy/newagey stuff.Very very good.Not as good as Kraan though.
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Points: 1127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 21:46

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

I dont think their english is bad, they are 90-95% on,
waayyy better than most! I dont think their is a classic
italian prog band that matches them in english. No
contest!

At least they are coherant spacey lyrics, as opposed
to garbage pail everywhere everything.
I would say lyrically they are years ahead of say
Rush!

I chose Kraan for this thread to point out that if you
take 4 Kraan albums vs 4 of the best Canterbury
albums from any band you will find as much diversity
in the Kraan albums as their is in the 4 Canterbury
albums.

True.

They have smarts enough to call one song 'Slomocean'.

Kinda like that
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Points: 3323 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 21:52
no offense intended you guys only trying to find to
brillance!

gr8dane, thanks for the insight, I wanna go there and
will! Do you have band name and best album title?
your the one!

I want it, I want it, I want it!

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Points: 1127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 21:58

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

no offense intended only trying to point to brillance!

gr8dane, thanks for the insight, I wanna go there and
will! Do you have band name and best album title?
your the one!

I want it, I want it, I want it!

 

No offence taken fellow Kraanhead.

2 good Tab Two 's are 'Belle Affair' and 'Between us'.

But really,they are all good in their own innocent way.
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Points: 3323 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 22:21
they were called TAB TWO? Brilliant!

Belle Affair and Between Us are two good starting
points? great album names really strikes my
curiosity, wont expect better than Kraan but want to
hear where their brains/talent took them. Many think
me to be a pain, but I fish for information like yours.

Szyergy?(very knowledgable),
philippe(euro-conniesuer?), danbo(up and coming),
Karnevil9, greenback(symphonic), James Lee,, even
Dick Heath are good brains to pick. dont disguard
there advices !
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Points: 1127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 06:23

Originally posted by Beau Heem Beau Heem wrote:

Just picked up Kraan's Flyday on vinyl last week for 2 Euros (a mint copy...)

I haven't yet had the time to really listen to it. I've put in on my turntable a couple of times already but some distraction always seems to come my way when I start digging through my vinyl pile...

I tend to rip my vinyls to mp3s, though... I couldn't bear it if I ruined the condition of a record I bought mint

Cheers

-Beau

2 Euros,you must be loaded

Make sure you play 'Ausflug' a couple of times in a row.

It is brilliant.It is one of those songs you don't really notice.It's like 2 songs in one.(?)

Cheers

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Points: 1127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 06:27

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

they were called TAB TWO? Brilliant!

Belle Affair and Between Us are two good starting
points? great album names really strikes my
curiosity, wont expect better than Kraan but want to
hear where their brains/talent took them. Many think
me to be a pain, but I fish for information like yours.

Szyergy?(very knowledgable),
philippe(euro-conniesuer?), danbo(up and coming),
Karnevil9, greenback(symphonic), James Lee,, even
Dick Heath are good brains to pick. dont disguard
there advices !

Good to know.

By the way,Helmutt has several solo albums out too.

Check out www.bassball.de 

 
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