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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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I'm a fan of JJ so I'm ok with it, but yes I would have liked to see more of a fight. Still...anything can happen. |
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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I'm gad he got a seat somewhere at least. |
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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Didn't see this one coming, McLaren have apparently replaced Perez with Kevin Magnussen for next year, it's not been officially confirmed but it's getting reported as a done deal.
I'm surprised they didn't give Perez one more year, I know they've been worried about his consistency but he has had a poor car to deal with this year. The big question, though, is Alonso. It's been no secret that Alonso wants out of Ferrari and McLaren want him back but where does this leave Button, who I thought McLaren and Honda wanted to keep on for several more years (McLaren have been trying to get him to sign a 3 year contract) as I can't imagin they'll only take Kevin for 1 year. Interesting bit of trivia, Kevin is now the second Magnussen to race for McLaren after dad Jan did a few races for them in 95. |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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How the, kind of, mighty have fallen
Wow, I mean I get that (the whole economic thing) but still... Kimi wasn't paid? Kind of blows my mind
Alonso wants out? God damn, my dream team is shattering already ![]() Edited by JJLehto - November 13 2013 at 08:35 |
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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Signing Kimi is part of it, he wanted Massa to stay for obvious reasons, but I think the heart of it is that Ferrari have repeatedly failed to give him a winning car. Every year their developments don't work and the car falls further away from the pace, it came to a head in Hungary where he public criticised the team after the updates didn't work and they reverted to the previous spec (in effect he was driving the same spec car he had in Spain 3 months earlier) and Luca di Montezemelo public rebuked him in return. And news on Raikkonen's replacement for the rest of the year. They had been trying to get Hulk to jump ship early but it seems he's backed out of it now, so Kovalainen has become hot favorite to take over the seat. I said it before, the smartest choice they could make. Edited by sleeper - November 13 2013 at 09:09 |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Shame is would've been great a team, but yeah Alonso has proven he can't handle another top driver, needs to have a #2
That also must be part of it, Ferrari certainly hasn't been up to the task in recent years.
Huzzah! I'd have liked Hulk but Kovalainen makes sense indeed.
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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Damn, Franchitti has just announced that he's retiring from motor sport due to the injuries sustained in his Houston crash and on medical advise. It's such a shame, I was really looking forward to Dario vs Montoya round 2 next year, but his health comes first so....
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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WOW
I did not see that coming at all. Those must be some serious injuries to keep him out of motorsport for good. |
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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I think it's the back injuries that are most concerning as it's not the first time he's brock his back.
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MillsLayne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
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Yeah, it's sad that we won't see him back. I usually root against him on the track, but he's still one of those iconic drivers in the sport.
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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wow! What a shame, I liked Dario and the last 2 years were so bleh..shame it has to end like this.
![]() I see he's 40. Dang! Well given what was said above guess retirement is probably the rational thing to do. Will miss ya Dario. Also apparently it was about money...and I mean, not being paid for the year would probably irk me ![]() http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/sep/19/kimi-raikkonen-money-lotus-ferrari I'll have to catch the replay of the USGP, and usually I cave and look up results but I really am interested so I'll wait it out. Which means avoiding all internet ha Edited by JJLehto - November 16 2013 at 15:24 |
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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Turns out it was the head injuries that did it for Dario. He'll make a full recovery and if he'd come back next year would have been as fast as usual but he's already had several big knocks to the head and another one could potentially be fatal/crippling so he's retired.
Qually for Austin, Botas was amazing and will rightfully be disappointed with 9th, he could have been 5th. Tyres seemed to be very difficult to get up to working temperature, hence the weird grid. Gutierrez was top 10 but gets a 10 place grid penalty for being dozzy/blocking Maldonado. Speaking of Pastor, he's adamant the team are sabotaging him and saying so to the press. Complete bollocks, this is Williams best chance for points this year, they're not going to risk that. Pos Driver Team Time Gap 1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m36.338s 2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m36.441s +0.103s 3. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m37.155s +0.817s 4. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m37.296s +0.958s 5. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m37.345s +1.007s 6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m37.376s +1.038s 7. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m37.452s +1.114s 8. Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1m37.715s +1.377s 9. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m37.836s +1.498s 10. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.034s +1.696s Q2 cut-off time: 1m38.078s Gap ** 11. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m38.131s +1.066s 12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m38.139s +1.074s 13. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m38.217s +1.152s 14. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m38.364s +1.299s 15. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m38.592s +1.527s 16. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m38.696s +1.631s Q1 cut-off time: 1m39.094s Gap * 17. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m39.250s +1.429s 18. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m39.351s +1.530s 19. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m40.491s +2.670s 20. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m40.528s +2.707s 21. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m40.596s +2.775s 22. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.401s +3.580s |
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MillsLayne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
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And now, Pastor is saying that Williams is basically screwing with his car.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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Congrats to Jimmie Johnson on his 6th Nascar Sprint Cup Title.
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MillsLayne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
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Did you guys see this jackassery? I know he's entitled to his opinion,
and that's fine, but hearing this kind of thing my entire life, I get
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Oh Pastor...
I was gunna say this reminds of the claim Verstappen made that the team was favoring Schumi, actually giving him equipment that Jos did not have. Except while that seems batsh*t insane at least there WAS a gap of peformance between em.
Maldonado and Bottas have performed more or less exactly the same. Soooo his car is being screwed with? Sheesh Edited by JJLehto - November 21 2013 at 09:48 |
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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There might have been something in that with Jos, as the team definitely favored Schumy but since Verstappen and JJ Lehto shared the second car in 94 it was understandably completely developed around Michael's driving style which was quite unique. Anyway, P2 times from Interlagos. A wet but drying session today, I suspect Jensen didn't go out towards the end which is why he's last as that looks like a full wet time. I really hope this keeps up for Sunday, we could get a good race then. Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps 1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m27.306s 12 2. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m27.531s +0.225s 10 3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m27.592s +0.286s 18 4. Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1m28.129s +0.823s 13 5. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m28.147s +0.841s 9 6. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m28.405s +1.099s 11 7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m28.540s +1.234s 9 8. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m28.560s +1.254s 20 9. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m28.739s +1.433s 20 10. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m28.891s +1.585s 12 11. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m28.928s +1.622s 10 12. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m29.049s +1.743s 17 13. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m29.174s +1.868s 11 14. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m29.717s +2.411s 13 15. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m29.783s +2.477s 7 16. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m30.425s +3.119s 15 17. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.748s +3.442s 8 18. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m31.061s +3.755s 18 19. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m31.118s +3.812s 16 20. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m31.165s +3.859s 15 21. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m31.211s +3.905s 19 22. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m31.770s +4.464s 6 |
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MillsLayne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
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Pray for Schumi, guys. He's in critical condition after a skiing accident in the French Alps.
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Holy sh*t, yeah just heard the news (not the text you wanna see from a friend)
Supposedly he was conscious at first but arrived at the hospital in a coma. Just god damn, what can be said? Hope to god he pulls through
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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I too would like to express my (delayed admittedly) well wishes to his Schumacherness. A terrible shame for sure, especially if there will be some long lasting effects.
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