The Motorsport Thread 2013
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Topic: The Motorsport Thread 2013
Posted By: sleeper
Subject: The Motorsport Thread 2013
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 15:44
I thought it's about time I opened up a new thread for this year and I'll start with the first F1 launch, the new Lotus E21, which seems to look almost exactly like last years E20. Actually, we've already had three big events this year, with Ganassi winning a 5th Daytona 24 hours at the weekend with Montoya, Memo Rojas, Charlie Kimball and Scott Pruett; Sebastian Loeb winning the first proper snowy Monte Carlo Rally in years (thank god he's not doing the full season though) and Stephan Peterhansel winning his 11th Dakar, 5th in cars. Best of all with the Dakar, Race2Recovery, a team of injured ex British and American servicmen, got one of their cars home. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 21:42
Aw yeah JPM!  Finally got #3! Been waiting for years, and he really could have 5 wins easily. Let 2013 commence. Should be another epic F1 season. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 21:44
I meant to start this thread yesterday with the conclusion of the 24 at Daytona but somehow forgot. What dominance by the Ganassi team. Shame that could never be transfer to NASCAR. 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 22:53
I hope Vettel does it again  ------------- 
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 28 2013 at 23:05
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Eh...you're only trolling James, we all like/tolerate Vettel. Which again congrats, it was a helluva fight between him and Alonso but he was truly deserving. Clutch performance again: 7 podiums in the final 10 with 4 straight wins when it really mattered most. He took control of an up/down year. With how sh*tty the Ferrari was at first, gotta give kudos to Alonso for his brilliant year, and Massa who really took off second half. And I was wrong. Said one of the bottom feeders would manage one point, and Petrov fell short with an 11th  |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 06:10
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I dont know whether you lot have heard but Glock wont be racing for Marussia this year, they agreed to part ways last week. Given that the team still have not been offered a deal by that little toerag Bernie (I hope I'm not the only one hoping that a court, somewhere, throws him in jail for his borderline criminal way of running F1) they're seriously worried about money and cant really afford to pay Glock's £2million. Given that HRT are gone, I hope we dont lose another team. That makes three seats still unfild at Force India, Caterham and Marussia.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 15:19
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Poor Glock. I always like joking he was going to win the championship in his Marussia. I do someone can fill in. I'd hate to see yet another team bite it. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 18:14
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Well naturally Bernie is a f**ker of epic proportions but what can ya do? The NFL is run pretty horridly in my book as well. That would be a shame. There's plenty of drivers that are deserving of shots! Cmon just give it to someone. Stirling Moss is still alive, that would be a sight and make the old time brits happy. Oh sh*t Jack Brabham is also still alive...it'd make the backmarker battle a lot more intriguing |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 30 2013 at 06:02
The Octagenarian championship!
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: January 31 2013 at 00:09
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If you're gunna get field fillers might as well make it fun! Also I'm making a firm commitment to get back into Indy. I saw more races last year than usual but still not the full season, which I havn't in years. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 31 2013 at 13:04
Second new car to be launched, the McLaren. Considering they had the fastest car last year they've gone surprisingly aggressive with the design, switching the front suspension from he usuall push-rod to Ferrari style pull rod and raising the front of the chassis like all the other teams, though unlike Lotus they've added the vanity panle to cover the bump. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 01 2013 at 06:13
New Ferrari and Force India. So glad we have this vanity plate now, those stepped noses were ugly. Hopefully Lotus will join the others with one as well soon.  ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: February 01 2013 at 12:48
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With all those high noses and 'mustache' reaching down to the very low front wing they look like those fish who scavenge the floor
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 02 2013 at 00:42
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Not bad but long as that Ferrari gets off to a better start in '13! I have always liked the colors/look of Force India |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 02 2013 at 06:44
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^I don't think they could have a worse start! New Sauber.  It's the big one tomorrow, the Red Bull. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 02 2013 at 14:14
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That's a nice look for Sauber! ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow">  ht |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 02 2013 at 15:00
Ah now there is a change! Cool stuff. Gotta love the black and silver look. RBR of course never looks any different |
sleeper wrote:Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 02 2013 at 15:35
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Oh! Almost forgot.... What is up with Kubica?? He was making progress I know, but clearly there is no word about an F1 return and seats are limited, though there is still an opening on Force India. I guess it's quite unlikely to see him in 2013? And very very unlikely he'll start the season :( |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 02 2013 at 17:44
Definitely a candidate for best looking car of the '13 season. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 03 2013 at 06:01
Thanks for reminding me. He's actually doing 10 rounds of the European Rally Championship this year in a Ford Fiesta RRC, which with the dropped score system and if he can get up to speed on gravel he'll be a title contender in. The turn out on Rally Poland this September is going to be insane. He actually tested a DTM Mercedes last week and was within 0.1s of Gary Paffet, Mercs top driver, it was a good way to get him used to a downforce generating car again whils the still recovers. From what I gather he's lacking in mobility in his right arm still, that could take a long time to recover, so he can't actually drive formula cars at the moment as he has to have his right arm out at an angle whilst driving. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 03 2013 at 09:57
And now the Red Bull. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 03 2013 at 22:48
Damn. Still good news though. Sadly, airing on the side of realistic expectations...his F1 career has a good chance of being over Though Schumacher had 3 years out and ran as well as his car allowed. If he can make a 2014 return, guess it's possible he can return to old form. He was so good too, he just had to run that rally! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 05:42
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If he ever comes back to F1 I reckon it will be 2015, but I'm pretty certain that whatever series he drives in he'll be very successful, he's lost none of his speed in that accident.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 07:20
New Merc, being shaken down this morning at Jerez. Testing stats tomorrow, though we wont see the new Williams until the second test at Barcelona on the 19th. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 16:53
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Indeed but man, wanna see him back in the big leagues. 'Nother nice one there. I do have a thing for black/silver/grey. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 17:51
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I've seen another pic of Hamilton in the car, he's swapped out the green stripe on his helmet for the black Monster stripe and logo, it's going to be a bitch telling those two appart this year!
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 19:32
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LOL this is bad because I know there are ways to determine...but I get so focused on the race I don't notice those details (or Im just dumb) When I see a Ferrari spinning I just wait to hear "OH! THAT'S (insert name)" and so on. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 19:47
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^Usually a bad idea, half the time the commentators get it wrong! I'm usually quite good at picking out whos helmet is which, even if I don't know all of them I know at least one driver from each team. BTW Caterham have signed their second driver, Giedo van der Garde. He's been on the edges of F1 since 2007 and done OK without ever looking like he was worthing putting in an F1 car, but I gather he's got a bit of sponsorship. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 21:11
The SPEED commentators are pretty solid actually. Pretty quick and usually right, but yeah they have goofed a few times. So many heart attacks man "OH! there goes Alonso/Kimi!" ..... "wait sorry that's Massa/Grosjean" 
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 05:17
Another shot of RBR: I don't really understand the purple, but hey, I don't think we'll have any problems spotting 'em this year! Marussia:  Very, VERY bare livery, but I kind of like it. ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 10:59
The two cars today, Marussia's first car developed in a wind tunnel (McLarens at that) and I notice that the Caterham is more metallic green than British Racing Green now.  First day of testing. The times don't really mean much at this point, if ever, but it is worth noting that Button had a fuel pump failure this morning after only 3 laps, Rosbergs Mercedes had a wiring loom failure that needs to be modified, putting them out for the day, and Chilton had a suspension failure going into the hairpin where Schumacher and Viellneuve collided in 97. 1. Jenson Button McLaren 1m18.861s 37 2. Mark Webber Red Bull 1m19.709s + 0.848s 73 3. Romain Grosjean Lotus 1m19.796s + 0.935s 54 4. Paul di Resta Force India 1m20.343s + 1.482s 89 5. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1m20.401s + 1.540s 70 6. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m20.536s + 1.675s 64 7. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber 1m20.699s + 1.838s 79 8. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m20.846s + 1.985s 11 9. Pastor Maldonado Williams 1m20.864s + 2.003s 84 10. Giedo van der Garde Caterham 1m21.915s + 3.054s 64 11. Max Chilton Marussia 1m24.176s + 5.315s 29 ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 11:00
Missed the Torro Rosso. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 13:26
| Those are both pretty sweet. I really like the Marussia, and that Caterham is a cool shade of green for sure. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 16:11
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I like the caterham, but that bull on the torro rosso is just silly! ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 16:50
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You'd think you'd be used to it after 6 years. Senna's found a seat, driving a works Aston Martin Vantage in the World Endurance Series and the Sebring 12 Hours. Says he wants to fight for wins again and he's got a good chance of doing it with that car. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 17:41
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I was gunna say....Senna sure wasn't fighting for any wins in F1
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 06:59
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Bad start to the year for Mercedes, Hamilton gets 14 laps into his first test with them and rear brake failure puts him in the wall, they're hoping they can fix the car for some afternoon running.
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 18:26
Are we sure that this isn't just Hamilton's terrible luck as of late? ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 17 2013 at 15:08
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Danica Patrick becomes the first female driver to ever win a NASCAR Sprint Cup pole after she set the fastest lap at Daytona today for the 500. Jeff Gordon will start 2nd.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2013 at 15:59
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I didn't realize qualifying was today. Hopefully I'll remember the duels happen. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 17 2013 at 17:08
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^Thursday! ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 17 2013 at 20:55
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Maybe Danica won't suck in NASCAR lol OK, perhaps unfair...she was really just down the middle in Indy, but quite over hyped considering the worlds of attention she got. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 11:23
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Testing starts again tomorrow at Barcelona, we're starting to get into the busuiness end of things now. Interestingly, Sutil will be testing for Force India, though it's not confirmed whether he or Bianchi will be the second driver for this year. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 13:40
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I'm jacked for the start of F1. Just too bad Petrov won't have a ride this year. He's more talented than quite a few of the drivers in the lineup this year, but unfortunately, he didn't have the sponsorship to back him.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 14:26
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Hopefully a good sign with sutil. Indeed about Petrov. Went the wrong way too quickly. And yay F1. What is the date of race one? ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 16:49
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^March 17th. To be honest I was never that impressed with Petrov, good but not great, Kovalainen is certainly a bigger loss. New Williams gets launched tomorrow as well. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 19 2013 at 15:22
The new Williams. The team should hav finished 5th in last years championship if it wasnt for the drivers, lets hope its a step forward and Maldonado can avoid the crashes. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 19 2013 at 15:29
Marked. And I would have liked to see him get more of a chance. And oh yeah. Kovy is a big loss. No doubt. I think I like the Williams car least of all. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 03:05
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It says on the f1 website that one of the races is TBA. Whats the story behind that? What are the options? (I assume its the european gp as its unlisted atm) ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 06:45
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That was the New Jersey GP (Valencia doesn't have a race this year, it and Barcelona will now start alternating to hold the Spanish GP). The extra slot was kept as TBA with all sorts of tracks mentioned over Christmas to host a race (Turkey, Paul Ricard and Magny Cours in France, Red Bull Ring in Austria (used to be called A-1 Ring) and Arigon in Portugal are the ones I can remember) but nothing came of it.
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Posted By: redmapleseo
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 03:28
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I meant to start this thread yesterday with the conclusion of the 24 at Daytona but somehow forgot.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 03:52
^ Don't take words like that.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 03:54
Ahh...yes. I actually forgot about the NJGP  but I'm glad Barce will be rotated. Probably my least favorite track. So, this weekend probably won't happen then?------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 05:47
I'm surprised it's on the website still, Bernie said there will be only 19 races this year a few weeks ago, nobodies got the time or money now to sort out a GP at such short notice. More importantly, if testing has been reliable then we could be in for a great season as Lotus, McLaren, Red Bull and Ferrari are all looking very closely matched. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 16:29
That's what I figured. And I agree...strange its still there. This is why I use you for my F1 news. 
And great. Good to see Lotus up there with the big boys. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 20:07
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I never realistically expected the NJGP to happen, and every time another thumbs up for it was given I shrugged it off. Maybe maybe I started to feel slight hope and that was when it was taken away I knew the whole time! Shame, looked like a sweet track and it'd be surreal having a race 45 mins from me. And we know how much $$ it brings in, not that it'd be a life saver (especially for how financially f**ked up NJ is) but would be something. Yeah, I liked Petrov at first but in the end...I'm not terrible impressed either. Not that he was bad but my original assumption was incorrect. Yes, curious to see how Lotus fares! As well as Mercedes. Really faded in the second half of '12 and how can we not be intrigued at Lewis' new ride? |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 01:46
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A bit of good news out of Daytona after today's scary as hell crash. Of all the injuries that were reported, 2 were critical, but now ALL have been stabilized with non-life threatening injuries. Thank goodness for that. That crash was freaking insane.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 02:47
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^ Thanks for the update. Was wondering about that...though I assumed the internet would be abuzz if one of the spectators was killed. Good to hear. Hopefully they finish the catch fence quickly. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 04:47
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I heard that NASCAR is going to re-seat those that were supposed to sit in that area for tomorrow's race, and I'm guessing because that particular portion of the fence is partially weakened. Just a guess, though.
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 05:48
Nasty crash, just saw it in the news  glad to hear that no lives seem to be in danger.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 11:16
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That is good news. Daytona, and thus Talladega, are still dangerous places it seems. What's crazy is that crash is just like the one in 1988, that caused NASCAR to put the restrictor plates on to slow the cars down...though it seems not have helped greatly and leads to those constantly on edge packs that cause 20 car pile ups. Can't go unrestricted though in tests they reached like 220+ mph I heard years ago changing to fuel injection would end the need but I read now they've done already? Maybe the only real solution, if fan safety is a primary concern, is something Dale Earnhardt said...level those banked turns. Cars have simply gotten too fast for these crazy banked turns on a big track...level the turns to 12 degrees or something like that, it will force drivers to left off the gas and would break up packs. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 11:49
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Wow, just realized I started watching nascar full time, thus soon F1, Indy, rally, ALMS and etc in 2003. 10 years sure has gone fast. Well, havn't watched the 500 in a few years, might as well catch it again. Maybe it'll be a good one. LOL I was wondering when Danica walked that pathway if fans would try groping her |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 17:45
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Well, I can honestly say that that Daytona 500 was one of the worst 500's I've seen in years. No challenge for the lead or anything. All Johnson had to do was keep it in a straight line and it was his. Greg Biffle did absolutely nothing while riding around in 2nd for the 2nd year in a row! He did nothing! ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 18:06
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Yeah it was pretty bland. Honestly....this happens far more often than it's exciting. It's always 190 laps of riding in line, then either there's craziness or they ride it out to the end. Plate racing really does suck. The only excitement at all was the good move Jr made to grab second. Where's F1 when we need it! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 24 2013 at 18:13
Oh he did something alright...he fell back to 6th! 
I assume the blame can be put on the new car? I haven't heard much about it (how its different/etc) but I assume it doesn't punch through the air like the old one. At least, I never recall Daytona being so much about track position in the 'recent' past. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 25 2013 at 04:59
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But at least try and make a move. He literally did nothing. At least Dale Jr. tried something. Keep in mind that this is the second year in a row Biffle was in second on the last lap and made no attempt to actually win it. And I usually defend the guy.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 25 2013 at 06:28
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I've heard it was a rather processional race, not something that normally gets said about NASCAR.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 25 2013 at 18:12
Indeed, but it IS a pretty common for the restrictor plate races. Which is a shame since the big race of them all, Daytona, is one it ends up pretty boring often TBH. Because all the cars end up in a giant pack the race is either crazy exciting with constant lead changes, attacks, teamwork and strategy...OR what happens 80% of the time is they race in lines for most of it, and the final few laps go crazy. When 30 cars are averaging near 200 mph for 500 miles, just a foot apart from each other it's pretty dangerous to get too dicey, so lines just form for most of the race. Which is why I said earlier they need to flatten the turns...so drivers would have to life off the gas. May produce an actual race for once |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 25 2013 at 22:26
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^ Well generally they get pack racing, which is anything but a follow the leader type situation. Not really the case on Sunday. The nationwide event (accident at the end notwithstanding) was much better with a lot of overtaking and plenty of action for the lead. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 25 2013 at 22:27
No help = no move. He had no help, even if he pulled out of line he would have plummeted all the same. Now, I still agree with you he should have tried something but I just don't see it working any differently. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 26 2013 at 16:54
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Yeah, I think it was more the no help case. Last year was different, when Biffle literally made no attempt...with an actual chance to make something happen! When Dale Jr was willing to push and he just sat there like he was tethered to Kenseth's bumper. I recall him admitting to he felt bad for kinda jipping his teammate in an earlier race...awfully noble of him but it's the 500. Gotta go for it! |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 27 2013 at 00:30
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I can guarantee you that had Biffle pulled out, Danica would've gone with him, and with as strong as her car was, they probably would've blown by him. Usually, the second place car needs to make the move or they WILL get left out to dry. Oh well, no worries since the REAL season starts this weekend at Phoenix. Great track with great racing.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 27 2013 at 02:19
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I'm by no means as sure of either of those things. But whats done is done. Hopefully one year the Biff can break on through and actually win it. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 27 2013 at 03:24
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I'm just hoping it wasn't ALL a product of the new car. Otherwise, 'Dega and Daytona are in trouble.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 27 2013 at 20:37
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^ Guess only time will tell. I'm sure they'll tinker with things too as time goes on as they always do...esp if they keep having races like that one at the plate tracks. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 28 2013 at 06:26
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Looks like the last spot on the grid will be confirmed today with Adrain Sutil rejoining Force India, so the line up looks like this: Red Bull- Sebastian Vettel/ Mark Webber Ferrari- Fernando Alonso/ Felipe Massa McLaren- Jneson Button/ Sergio Perez Lotus- Kimi Raikkonen/ Romain Grosjean Mercedes- Lewis Hamilton/ Nico Rosberg Sauber- Nico Hulkenberg/ Esteban Gutierrez Force India- Paul di Resta/ Adrian Sutil Williams- Pastor Maldonardo/ Valtori Bottas Torro Rosso- Danial Ricciardo/ Jean Eric Vergne Caterham- Charles Pic/ Giedo van der Garde Marussia- Max Chilton/ Luiz Razia ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 01 2013 at 11:52
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Didn't take long for my las tpost to become redundant. Turns out Luiz Razia's sponsors haven't been following through with the payments so he's already been dropped. Jules Bianchi seems set to take his seat with a bit of help from Ferrari.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 19:08
Level those damn turns, only true solution! |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 21:42
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^Or just get rid of the restrictor plate. It's the great equalizer that creates those huge packs. Without it, you won't have the big one and you'd have a bunch of smaller races going on all over the track. Not just one huge pack with nowhere to go. ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 23:55
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Yeah but then won't they be going suicidally fast? I think Rusty Wallace averaged like 224 mph or around there! God forbid a car actually cleared a fence/got through. Man that's the end of nascar right there. Glad to see the F1 lineup is out, some new faces. Though I've known of Jules and Valtteri, cool to see them finally here. |
Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 17:35
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Fun race today at Phoenix and Carl Edwards snaps a 70 race winless streak, beating out Jimmie Johnson and Denny Hamlin. NASCAR needs more tracks like this because the racing is always awesome in Phoenix, no matter what car is being run, unlike all the new 1.5 mile cookie cutters. ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 03:46
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F1 Barcelona testing is over, what do you make of the Red Bulls being over 2 seconds off the pace of the fastest? The weather was far from ideal so it's early for rushing to conclusions but it was the same for everybody.
It looks like Mercedes have done their homework.
Unofficial aggregate times from second Barcelona test: 1. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1:20.130, 251 laps 2. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:20.494, 222 laps 3. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:20.588, 230 laps 4. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:21.266, 206 laps 5. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:21.444, 194 laps 6. Nico Hulkenberg, Sauber, 1:21.541, 197 laps 7. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:21.627, 171 laps 8. Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus, 1:21.658, 50 laps 9. Paul di Resta, Force India, 1:21.664, 169 laps 10. Pastor Maldonado, Williams, 1:22.305, 151 laps 11. Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 1:22.468, 147 laps 12. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:22.514, 165 laps 13. Esteban Gutierrez, Sauber, 1:22.553, 191 laps 14. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 1:22.658, 149 laps 15. Sergio Perez, McLaren, 1:22.694, 201 laps 16. Romain Grosjean, Lotus, 1:22.716, 186 laps 17. Charles Pic, Caterham, 1:23.115, 199 laps 18. Jules Bianchi, Marussia, 1:23.167, 136 laps 19. Jean-Eric Vergne, Toro Rosso, 1:23.223, 173 laps 20. Davide Valsecchi, Lotus, 1:23.448, 16 laps 21. Daniel Ricciardo, Toro Rosso, 1:23.628, 152 laps 22. Max Chilton, Marussia, 1:24.103, 202 laps 23. Giedo van der Garde, Caterham, 1:24.235, 174 laps |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 06:45
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Red Bul weren't going for times. The teams seemed to have had a lot of trouble with the tyres degrading extremely quickly, making it difficult to tell where everybody is. All I'll say is that it seems fairly close between Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Lotus and Mercedes with Sauber, Williams, Force India and Torro Rosso equally close and not that far off the main group. Marussia have definitely made some gains over last year thouhg they'll still need some good luck to score points. Caterham seem to be the only team to have obvious problems, their car is routeenly the most evil handling thing out there.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 06:45
Do they race at Nazareth? Probably the craziest oval I know of. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 07:01
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I've just seen that Kubica has anounced his plans for the year, he'll be competing on 7 rounds of the WRC in a Citreon DS3 RRCin the WRC2 class, as well as selected outings in the European Rally Championship (almost certainly going to include his home event). First event will be the Rally Islas Canaries later this month. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 13:58
No, that track shut down in 2004, although the Busch series and truck series used to race there. Unfortunate, really, because that track provided for some good racing. ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow"> ht |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 14:17
| Yes, I really hated losing Nazareth :( |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 14:49
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Damn, I didnt know that. I remember the last IndyCar race their with Hornish vs Castroneves for the win. An oval with elevation change, absolutely crazy, but such fun to watch.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 15:43
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Quite a few good/classic tracks have left us. The 1.5 mile cookie cutter has become the in thing sadly. Honestly now that the 500 has passed any interest of mine has died lol ready for F1 |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 16:53
Thanks for this. (and the addendum) Looking forward to the start! ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 10:41
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Interesting rumour thats been gathering pace since late last year is that Honda are on their way back to F1, possibly next year but most likely in 2015 with McLaren. Autosport are even repoting that according to Honda sources the board signed off on the development of a V6 turbo engine months ago. I really hope this is true.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 07:34
Its time. Aussie GP this weekend and here are the practice times. McLaren are not looking good and Button has said points is all they can hope for this weekend. I know they werent expecting to be winning races from the word go but this is definitely worse than was expected, same goes for Williams who were talking about giving the big teams a hard time and are surprised they're off the pace.Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps 1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m25.908 33 2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m26.172s + 0.264 31 3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m26.322s + 0.414 26 4. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m26.361s + 0.453 37 5. Romain Grosjean Lotus Renault 1m26.680s + 0.772 30 6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m26.748s + 0.840 35 7. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m26.772s + 0.864 28 8. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m26.855s + 0.947 32 9. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m27.435s + 1.527 34 10. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m28.187s + 2.279 34 11. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m28.294s + 2.386 30 12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m28.311s + 2.403 37 13. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m28.566s + 2.658 32 14. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m28.627s + 2.719 31 15. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m28.772s + 2.864 33 16. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m28.852s + 2.944 36 17. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m28.968s + 3.060 35 18. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m29.386s + 3.478 38 19. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m29.696s + 3.788 30 20. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m30.165s + 4.257 37 21. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m30.600s + 4.692 34 22. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m32.450s + 6.542 11 ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 08:38
Indeed the low performance of McLaren is the biggest surprise, while Mercedes seem to have really improved, it's like Lewis Hamilton had a crystal ball  (his 7th place is misleading because he went off track trying to do his fast lap).And Williams are indeed a big disappointment. It's only early days though, gonna be interesting!
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 09:56
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My Money's on Raikkonen providing the biggest challenge, apparently he put in a very strong 14 lap run during P2 which suggests they've got a good race car to challenge with.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 15:07
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Piss...with the new network carrying the races idk if I get qualifying on the telly. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 19:39
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Whew...did check. Qualifying is being shown...and supposedly live. Excellent. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 02:22
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Yup, F1 is still accessible to me and I assume races will be live. Even better it's not Fox!!! Aussie weather strikes again! Rest of quali delayed...maybe it'll rain spiders during the race |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 03:30
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^ I was quite surprised that it was essentially the same team as well. Happily surprised mind you. And oh Austrailia...how silly you are. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 08:58
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I spend all morning avoiding the internet so quali isnt spoiled for me, only to find they delayed it after Q1 because of torential rain! Oh well, I get Sebring tonight. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 12:59
Yes, I liked them. Really see why people didn't...I assume it's because on internet forums/chats we have to be "alternative" but they were quite fine. Glad they are back. Wow I've really gotten bad. Used to not miss anything, now didn't even know Sebring was on. Well it'll give me something to occupy my day until drinking happens tonight! |