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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2018 at 06:08
Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

This should be interesting to Ayreon fans.

"Ayreon Universe is Ayreon live in concert for the first time ever, organized and arranged by Arjen A. Lucassen and Joost van den Broek.

The Ayreon Universe set list features selected songs from all Ayreon albums plus a selection of Star One songs."

 

Vocalists

Floor Jansen - Nightwish
Damian Wilson - Threshold
Hansi Kürsch - Blind Guardian
Tommy Karevik - Kamelot
Anneke van Giersbergen - The Gentle Storm
Marco Hietala - Nightwish
Jonas Renkse - Katatonia
Mike Mills - Toehider
Marcela Bovio - Stream of Passion
Irene Jansen - Ayreon
Robert Soeterboek - Star One
John Jaycee Cuijpers - Praying Mantis
Edward Reekers - Kayak
Jay van Feggelen - Ayreon
Maggy Luyten - Nightmare
Lisette van den Berg - Scarlet Stories
 
 

Instrumentalists

Ed Warby - Drums
Johan van Stratum - Bass
Marcel Coenen - Lead guitar
Ferry Duijsens - Guitar
Joost van den Broek - Keyboards
Ben Mathot - Violin
Jeroen Goossens - Flutes, woodwinds
Maaike Peterse - Cello


This already happened last year (apparently it was superb), the recent announcement is of the DVD/Blu-Ray of the event.

There was a previous set of concerts of The Human Equation album (The Theatre Equation) - the Blu-Ray is top notchClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2018 at 09:39
Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

I've been listening to Ayreon almost exclusively for about 3 months now and I'm going to throw my two cents into this thread. Like most people here I really enjoy Ayreons music. For those who don't like him, that's you opinion and I get that. But I kind of equate that my feelings to for Tom Brady. Sure I hate the man, don't like him and that's my opinion; but if we were talking about his actual ability well then yeah he is pretty freakin good. Arjen Lucasssen is the same way, sure you may not enjoy his music, but his understanding of music composition and music production are undeniable. Another stand out quality that I believe makes his music so good is his leadership. He seems to be the anti-Fripp, knowing when and how to utilize the talents around him without it being a dictatorship. On many occasions he has let the vocalist for a song develop the vocal melody, examples include - but not limited too,  "My House on Mars" and "Waking Dreams". When presenting Arjen with his Virtuoso Award for the 2014 Prog Awards Damian Wilson said, "He is the most wonderful man in the world, but most people don't get a chance to see how wonderful he is. But they get a chance to hear it. And he sees the best in everyone, and when he records with musicians he always brings out the best in them." Any research into the man himself and you can see how humble, modest, and talented he really is.

As for the music itself, well I think Arjen described Ayreons sound better than anyone. In an interview about 01011001 he said "Ayreon is a combination of power and melody, it's very important for me" It is this cornerstone upon which he builds his music, and it shows. In addition to this foundation of composition, he includes power synth runs that are as catchy as they are appropriate. Never too much and always just enough. His influences are many, but the sounds at the forefront are metal, folk, and symphonic prog all wrapped in a rock opera delivery system that just seem to coalesce into one deliciously cheesy experience. I say cheesy, well, because it is, but in the best way possible. The story he tells, and the music through which he tells it, is so grandiose that it couldn't be any other way. I remember the first time I listened to "Connect the Dots", so much lyrical cheese I was face palming. But I realized I was taking the song out of context, listening to it as a single entity rather than a piece of the whole. This is where I feel Ayreon loses a lot of people. Like a cake, Ayreon is best enjoyed as a whole fully baked product, not eaten one ingredient at a time. Within the context of the album "Connect the Dots" becomes one of the most powerful songs. Delving beneath the surface of lyrics like "I picked up fast food on the way and it's finger licking good" or "Peer to Peer the torrent flows into my lap." You see Arjen is speaking about the loss of emotions and how oblivious people are of that fact, and how aware and helpless The Forever Race is of their human progeny. This brings me to my favorite aspect of Ayreons music and that is this amazing story he has told. A brilliant multi layered story that while on the surface is about an alien race and their influence on humanity, below is well observed commentary on a human emotions. A great read is prognotes Ayreon's The Forever Saga(http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2017/04/13/prognotes-ayreons-the-forever-saga-part-i-the-final-experiment-kinda/). So far there are only two parts but it is a thorough breakdown of the story behind Ayreons music.

Here is my list of favorite Ayeron albums starting with what I feel to be his best to his not as good as the others. This does not include solo albums or Star One albums, which are also very good and I would put above some of Ayerons work.

TIER ONE
Into the Electric Castle - Perfect blend of story telling and song writing. Classic Ayreon sound.
01011001 - My personal favorite, very hard sounding with some balanced softer spots. Pound for pound offers the best melodies and contains my personal favorite group of vocalist.
Universal Migrator pt 1 & 2 - Putting these as a single entity. Part one great symph/classic prog, Part two great metal/heavy prog.
TIER TWO
The Human Equation - I know most would put this higher on the list, and while musically it is stellar, I find that the story telling is a bit one dimensional. While yes, it has all the things I love Ayreon albums for, the plot is a bit straightforward, and I felt kind of jipped at the end, like a great movie with a bad ending. I very much enjoy the album, but not as much as other people.
The Final Experiment - Sets the tone for Arjens style, which only refines and get better with future releases. The first Ayreon story actually told but is more around the fourth in the series of events. Great album, but actually would not recommend as a place to start to someone who is looking to get into Ayreon. Also cool to think that Merlin professed that that another minstrel will appear at the end of the 20th century and that it is actually Arjen himself, bringing a real life dimension to the story that I think is cool.
The Source - Love the story, love the hard heavy sound. Some great vocal harmonies, but kind of lacks that je ne sais quoi that the The Human Equation or Electric Castle have.
TIER THREE
Actual Fantasy - Not considered to be part of "The Forever Saga", but has sci-fi elements and a nod here or there to some Ayreon lore. Enjoyable.
The Theory of Everything - There are some parts I really enjoy, and others not so much. One thing is for sure that the style and sound are consistently Ayreon. This album is simply just alright and is also outside of "The Forever Saga". Something has to be the floor to the high ceiling set by all the other albums, this album is that floor.

TL:DR - Ayreon is indeed awesome


Going with your scheme:

Tier 1:
The Human Equation
The Theory Of Everything

Tier 2:
Into The Electric Castle
01011001
The Dream Sequencer
The Source

Tier 3:
The Final Experiment
The Universal Migrator

Tier 4:
Actual Fantasy

Strangely, my 2 favourites both sit outside the main story arc...


But they're all damn good reallySmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2018 at 00:16
Originally posted by essesxboyinwales essesxboyinwales wrote:

This already happened last year (apparently it was superb), the recent announcement is of the DVD/Blu-Ray of the event.


Yeah I knew that, I was just posting because of the DVD release and that pre orders can be placed on 30.1.18

There is a youtuber who filmed the concert but the quality is only as good as personal cameras can go. But the DVD will be an absolute must for me.

Interesting tiers. For you, what is so intriguing about The Theory of Everything? Also remember the Human Equation is part of "The Forever Saga". Its only at the end do we find out that it too was another experiment by Forever to experience emotions. That's what turned me off so much and why I put it in Tier 2. It just kind of seemed like an afterthought as to not break the continuity.

Looking back at my earlier post, if I felt compelled to change some things, maybe I'd split The Universal Migrator albums and switch The Universal Migrator pt 2 and The Human Equation... but that's still a maybe.
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