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adace1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 25 2010 Status: Offline Points: 320 |
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They seem pretty proggy and experimental to me. What do you think?
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Sorry, while I probably agree with you (it's been a while since I listened to them), it's never going to happen. The surviving members of the prog electronic team are adamantly opposed to any IDM in the archives because it's too "commercial". This has come up before, as well as with Aphex Twin and Venetian Snares. Personally, I don't understand how the subgenre of prog electronic on PA makes any sense, but that's a discussion for another time.
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Rivertree ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17650 |
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nice project indeed .. ahhh, but I don't get what you are speculating about .... ![]() Edited by Rivertree - January 13 2011 at 18:18 |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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Nope it's a discussion for right now (again). Prog electronic, when called that and purported to be progressive as far as electronic goes, has not made any sense since it was instituted on this site. The genre should be broken up into: 1. Berlin school 2. All others moves to Krautrock (the likes of Kraftwerk) Brian Eno should be removed and all reviews of his albums deleted (mine included). His only possibly contribution to "Prog Electronic" is in ambient and tape music, and the exclusion of post-70s ambient and tape music artists makes his inclusion nonsensical. This site should claim no expertise at all on electronic music when it so retardedly ignores innovation in the genre. (I actually think All prog electronic artists should not be here, and the entire Krautrock genre as well should be removed--the definition of prog music is too wide as it is and it allows for issues like this to arise). |
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Basically, I agree with what stonie said. Although I wouldn't be willing to axe all of Kraut, it seems to me that artists like Amon Duul II fit under prog. The motorik music of Can/Faust/Neu! etc. drives me crazy so I can't legitimately comment on it. |
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adace1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 25 2010 Status: Offline Points: 320 |
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Thanks for explaining that to me. I haven't really listened to much of Venetian Snares but I think BOC is less IDM than Aphex Twin. In fact I can't really think of a single BOC track that sounds "commercial" or "danceable." They're really an ambient band. But they're also experimental. In fact, their last release featured guitars and sounded pretty close to post-rock to me. I understand the need for them to filter bands from the list but I think this one really deserves a place.
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zravkapt ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6451 |
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I love BOC, but if Aphex Twin and Autechre have no chance of getting in, neither do they.
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The Neck Romancer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2010 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 10185 |
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You're correct, except for this (IMO of course.):
All krautrock artists should be moved to the psychedelic/space rock category.
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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Did you put them against the category definition and the category's most representative artists, to see if your suggestion is worthy? That's always a good thing to know if you're not sure. Anyway, like it's been said, the issue has been discussed to death, this scene is not eligible for PA's prog electronic. |
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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Faust isn't "motorik" at all, it's closer to the RIO sound than Krautrock |
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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That may have been stonie's implication.
I'm not claiming deep familiarity with Faust. That is what I have heard from people and a similarity I heard in my limited listens to them, and I really don't care enough to listen further to tease out the difference between motorik and minimalist RIO Krautrock. |
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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lol
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