Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Suggest New Bands and Artists
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Boards of Canada for electronic prog
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedBoards of Canada for electronic prog

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
adace1 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 25 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 320
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Boards of Canada for electronic prog
    Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:02
They seem pretty proggy and experimental to me. What do you think?
Back to Top
Henry Plainview View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
Status: Offline
Points: 16715
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:11
  Sorry, while I probably agree with you (it's been a while since I listened to them), it's never going to happen. The surviving members of the prog electronic team are adamantly opposed to any IDM in the archives because it's too "commercial". This has come up before, as well as with Aphex Twin and Venetian Snares. Personally, I don't understand how the subgenre of prog electronic on PA makes any sense, but that's a discussion for another time.  

Edited by Henry Plainview - January 13 2011 at 18:14
if you own a sodastream i hate you
Back to Top
Rivertree View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions

Joined: March 22 2006
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 17650
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:18
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Sorry, while I probably agree with you, it's never going to happen. The surviving members of the prog electronic team are adamantly opposed to any IDM in the archives because it's too "commercial". This has come up before, as well as with Aphex Twin. Personally, I don't understand how the subgenre of prog electronic on PA makes any sense, but that's a discussion for another time.


nice project indeed .. ahhh, but I don't get what you are speculating  about .... Geek



Edited by Rivertree - January 13 2011 at 18:18


Back to Top
stonebeard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 28057
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:20
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Personally, I don't understand how the subgenre of prog electronic on PA makes any sense, but that's a discussion for another time.  


Nope it's a discussion for right now (again).

Prog electronic, when called that and purported to be progressive as far as electronic goes, has not made any sense since it was instituted on this site.

The genre should be broken up into:

1. Berlin school
2. All others moves to Krautrock (the likes of Kraftwerk)

Brian Eno should be removed and all reviews of his albums deleted (mine included). His only possibly contribution to "Prog Electronic" is in ambient and tape music, and the exclusion of post-70s ambient and tape music artists makes his inclusion nonsensical.

This site should claim no expertise at all on electronic music when it so retardedly ignores innovation in the genre.

(I actually think All prog electronic artists should not be here, and the entire Krautrock genre as well should be removed--the definition of prog music is too wide as it is and it allows for issues like this to arise).
Back to Top
Henry Plainview View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
Status: Offline
Points: 16715
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:27
Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Sorry, while I probably agree with you, it's never going to happen. The surviving members of the prog electronic team are adamantly opposed to any IDM in the archives because it's too "commercial". This has come up before, as well as with Aphex Twin. Personally, I don't understand how the subgenre of prog electronic on PA makes any sense, but that's a discussion for another time.

nice project indeed .. ahhh, but I don't get what you are speculating  about .... Geek

Basically, I agree with what stonie said. Although I wouldn't be willing to axe all of Kraut, it seems to me that artists like Amon Duul II fit under prog. The motorik music of Can/Faust/Neu! etc. drives me crazy so I can't legitimately comment on it.
if you own a sodastream i hate you
Back to Top
adace1 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 25 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 320
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:27
Thanks for explaining that to me. I haven't really listened to much of Venetian Snares but I think BOC is less IDM than Aphex Twin. In fact I can't really think of a single BOC track that sounds "commercial" or "danceable." They're really an ambient band. But they're also experimental. In fact, their last release featured guitars and sounded pretty close to post-rock to me. I understand the need for them to filter bands from the list but I think this one really deserves a place.
Back to Top
zravkapt View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 12 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 6451
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:28
I love BOC, but if Aphex Twin and Autechre have no chance of getting in, neither do they.
Back to Top
The Neck Romancer View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 01 2010
Location: Brazil
Status: Offline
Points: 10185
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:51
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Personally, I don't understand how the subgenre of prog electronic on PA makes any sense, but that's a discussion for another time.  


Nope it's a discussion for right now (again).

Prog electronic, when called that and purported to be progressive as far as electronic goes, has not made any sense since it was instituted on this site.

The genre should be broken up into:

1. Berlin school
2. All others moves to Krautrock (the likes of Kraftwerk)

Brian Eno should be removed and all reviews of his albums deleted (mine included). His only possibly contribution to "Prog Electronic" is in ambient and tape music, and the exclusion of post-70s ambient and tape music artists makes his inclusion nonsensical.

This site should claim no expertise at all on electronic music when it so retardedly ignores innovation in the genre.

(I actually think All prog electronic artists should not be here, and the entire Krautrock genre as well should be removed--the definition of prog music is too wide as it is and it allows for issues like this to arise).


You're correct, except for this (IMO of course.):



Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

 (I actually think All prog electronic artists should not be here, and the entire Krautrock genre as well should be removed--the definition of prog music is too wide as it is and it allows for issues like this to arise).

All krautrock artists should be moved to the psychedelic/space rock category.
Back to Top
harmonium.ro View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: August 18 2008
Location: Anna Calvi
Status: Offline
Points: 22989
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 19:07
Originally posted by adace1 adace1 wrote:

They seem pretty proggy and experimental to me. What do you think?


Did you put them against the category definition and the category's most representative artists, to see if your suggestion is worthy? That's always a good thing to know if you're not sure.

Anyway, like it's been said, the issue has been discussed to death, this scene is not eligible for PA's prog electronic.
Back to Top
Triceratopsoil View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 03 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 18016
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 19:23
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Sorry, while I probably agree with you, it's never going to happen. The surviving members of the prog electronic team are adamantly opposed to any IDM in the archives because it's too "commercial". This has come up before, as well as with Aphex Twin. Personally, I don't understand how the subgenre of prog electronic on PA makes any sense, but that's a discussion for another time.

nice project indeed .. ahhh, but I don't get what you are speculating  about .... Geek

Basically, I agree with what stonie said. Although I wouldn't be willing to axe all of Kraut, it seems to me that artists like Amon Duul II fit under prog. The motorik music of Can/Faust/Neu! etc. drives me crazy so I can't legitimately comment on it.


Faust isn't "motorik" at all, it's closer to the RIO sound than Krautrock
Back to Top
Henry Plainview View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
Status: Offline
Points: 16715
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2011 at 21:13
 
Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

 
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

(I actually think All prog electronic artists should not be here, and the entire Krautrock genre as well should be removed--the definition of prog music is too wide as it is and it allows for issues like this to arise).
All krautrock artists should be moved to the psychedelic/space rock category.

That may have been stonie's implication. 
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Faust isn't "motorik" at all, it's closer to the RIO sound than Krautrock

I'm not claiming deep familiarity with Faust. That is what I have heard from people and a similarity I heard in my limited listens to them, and I really don't care enough to listen further to tease out the difference between motorik and minimalist RIO Krautrock.
if you own a sodastream i hate you
Back to Top
Triceratopsoil View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 03 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 18016
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2011 at 00:02
lol
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.582 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.