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Points: 1 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2011 at 11:57
Again we have your typical record review type person. He made a comment about the Carpenters that really showed his ignorance. He said the Duo's (or, rather, Karen's talent) ...anyone knows that as great as Karen sang, Richard was the one who wrote the arrangements, searched and picked the material that would best suit Karen. Was responsible for the "sound" the Carpenters had. Sang and arranged all the Backing Vocals. Overdubbed all the Backing Vocals with Karen. etc...Had all the great ideas. Played perfect Piano and Keyboards. Mixed all the records. Karen's solo album is proof that Richard was responsible in a huge way for the success of the duo. All that said I feel Karen was one of the best pop vocalists ever. But to make a reference that Richard's talent had nothing to do with the success of the duo, really shows lack of talent as a reviewer.
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Points: 905 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:05
Yeah, his bias is pretty noticable a lot of times, especially his dislike of metal.
 
At least his reviews can qualify as actual reviews. The other big internet music critic, Mark Prindle, just makes a bunch of incredibly unfunny stupid ramblings that have absolutely nothing to do with anything. His writing skills are identical to that of an ADD aflicted Chimpanzee.
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Points: 282 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2011 at 13:10
I'd say that he finds the BEST element of the Carpenters to be Karen's voice. I think he just dislikes or disregards Richard's arrangements and singing as weak. That's not ignorance just a difference of opinion. Not saying his opinion is perfect but I think calling him ignorant is rather harsh. Name another online record reviewer that would actually give the Carpenters the time of day at ALL. He doesn't judge them as harshly as others I've read. 
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Points: 282 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2011 at 13:14
Mark may have fairly incoherent reviews but I'll say this in his defense: he's actually a good person and a nice guy. He actually corresponds and interacts with his fans on Facebook and Myspace like a normal person, not as a quasi-internet celebrity. Imagine, say, Stephen Thomas Entwistle (I know it's not Entwistle but I'm blanking on his last name and not interested in looking it up) interacting with his fans in the same way and you see the difference. I disregard Mark's sporadic writing for this reason and because he's not a professional reviewer. Just an amateur.
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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2011 at 01:17
Originally posted by SonicDeath10 SonicDeath10 wrote:

I'd say that he finds the BEST element of the Carpenters to be Karen's voice. I think he just dislikes or disregards Richard's arrangements and singing as weak. That's not ignorance just a difference of opinion. Not saying his opinion is perfect but I think calling him ignorant is rather harsh. Name another online record reviewer that would actually give the Carpenters the time of day at ALL. He doesn't judge them as harshly as others I've read. 

Exactly. I have read his Carpenter reviews and there are in fact a lot of references to Richard's role. I don't know if that is exactly what he thinks, but I'd personally agree with an assessment that Richard's arrangements are quite sappy and mushy and it's Karen's singing that breathes life into them.  This comes out even on comparing their versions (er, many of Richard's 'compositions' were simply rearrangements of Paul Williams songs) to that of other artists; often the latter have better arrangements but Karen's singing just makes a much more distinct impression.  And common sense dictates that a singer needs a composer and arranger to put together albums but there's no need to double-triple emphasise the arranger's role and 'distribute credit' evenly between the two because the mark of a great singer is to make mediocre arrangements appealing or at least to make the listener ignore them and focus on the singing.  I had a similar argument with some Dunford fanboy (who was also a Carpenters fan) and given the tone of his (enzando) post, I wonder if it's not the same person.


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