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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

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Ok, I think I understand now what you meant. In my opinion a really good release should immediately appeal to a listener on the first listen, but it should also grow with consecutive listens. This process still happens when I listen to music even with 40 years of experience listening to a broad range of music, and I am sure that it is the same for you. It’s how the human brain works.

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I can not say that this is an issue for me ... as I mentioned, a lot of the music is "visual" for me, and when you "see it" ... somehow, that seems to be the idea/thought that is associated with that music for me, and even listening to it later, it hasn't changed. I often thought that it should change since the person today is not the same as yesterdays, but I can go back and listen to Sgt Pepper's (a good example for me), and I still see many of the things I saw then.

I have been, and studied, a lot of psychic stuff for a long time, and a lot of my work with actors and improvisation includes a lot of what some folks might think is "psychic" material, which for me it ISN'T ... it's simply a matter/function of the way we are and work ... and most important of all ... there is a thing called "one moment in time", and for me, the different listens, will break up that moment in time, and devalue it. I, honestly, do not see why/how we devalue our own perception, and that it can not be trusted, but what happened in that ONE SECOND of time, can not be repeated, though you might be able to see it again, many times.

Again, to me, it is all about the depth of your listening ... and a lot of listens, tend to confuse me, as the experience at that specific moment will be different than another moment ... and while that should be considered valuable ... as is the case in your listens ... for me, it is not necessary as far as I can tell and know.

The thing about music, and the arts for me, and the work I do with Improvisation, is about ... a second in time ... and how one can use that second to interpret and develop the acting idea for a character, or get a stronger understanding for a play ... at that point it's not about the author, but how the actor wakes up to the possibilities of the work ... and again ... changing it every night is not something that often helps, though it's really hard to see an actor do King Lear, and repeat the same line in a soliloquy at least 200 times, and the director Peter Brook (in his book) says he never saw, or heard the same thing in all of those moments ... and that would be about the specific moment in time ... and not the "listens" ... 

I think we are both caught in two different areas, mine is about "being there" at that moment in time ... and I think that different listens, in my experience, have changed the focus to something else, that is not a part of my "seeing". 

I have not, as weird as that may sound, found a song, or piece of music to be totally different ... with one exception that we do not care about these days ... in the 1950's and 1960's, it was the time of the CONDUCTOR of an orchestra and some renditions of the same thing are really different ... and take you to a different place ... and it's the same "music" ... but one could never deny the strong difference between a German Conductor, and an Italian Conductor ... I see this today, btw, in the remember when bands, like Musical Box, Cloudbusting, and many others ... and it's not better or worse ... but it does feel very different even though almost all of them are being as faithful as they can about the music!


Edited by moshkito - November 24 2024 at 05:12
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Junges Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 hours 34 minutes ago at 01:37
I found it one of their worst records. The songwriting is a mess, it goes nowhere, keeps changing and changing and nothing sticks with you. There are no memorable passages. But I know I am in the minority. To me it seems just because the growls returned people immediately call it masterpiece and compare it to early Opeth. To me there is nothing in this album that is like old Opeth and the song structure is just a mess. Mikael's growls alone don't make a good record.
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This would be a great instrumental album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 hours 48 minutes ago at 08:23
I'm listening to a bit of it now on youtube. It sounds ok but I'm not really a fan of the growling vocals (or whatever they're called).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Valdez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 hours 8 minutes ago at 09:03
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

This would be a great instrumental album.

I agree. The Vocals are in the way for this listener. 
https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024

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Oh I didn't even know this was out, I'll give it a listen
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