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    Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:31
So, here's the deal. I like neither Yes nor Genesis. Tried many times to get into them, but... it simply wasn't it. There are exceptions, of course, but no more than a few songs. I am quite a prog listener, but Yes and Genesis... don't know. Maybe I am starting from the wrong point (as in album), or something. Or I am just not into symphonic prog... but I really do want to like them. So, what's wrong with me?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:34
Besides the obvious personality flaws that follow from liking prog, you mean?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:34

My suspicion is that you simply don't like them. Not everything is for everybody. However, give us the albums that you have heard and then we'll work from there. After all, if you've listened to Big Generator and Abacab...well I can hardly blame you Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:37
You need therapy. The more expensive, the better. Stern Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:40
Originally posted by kole kole wrote:

So, here's the deal. I like neither Yes nor Genesis. Tried many times to get into them, but... it simply wasn't it. There are exceptions, of course, but no more than a few songs. I am quite a prog listener, but Yes and Genesis... don't know. Maybe I am starting from the wrong point (as in album), or something. Or I am just not into symphonic prog... but I really do want to like them. So, what's wrong with me?
A good question is ''which prog bands do you actually like the most?''...If the answer is MAGMA,DUN,WEATHER REPORT,ISIS,PELICAN,THE MARS VOLTA etc.,then yes,it seems symphonic prog isn't your thing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:50
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Besides the obvious personality flaws that follow from liking prog, you mean?


Obviously =).

Originally posted by Tarquin Underspoon Tarquin Underspoon wrote:

My suspicion is that you simply don't like them. Not everything is for everybody. However, give us the albums that you have heard and then we'll work from there. After all, if you've listened to Big Generator and Abacab...well I can hardly blame you Wink



I liked Genesis' Selling England by the Pound but I only thought of it only as... cool. Nothing more. Then tried Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme a few times.
From Yes, Close to the Edge, obviously. But once again, it was only, well, cool. Continued with Fragile and Going for the One. Once again, nothing.

Originally posted by psarros psarros wrote:

A good question is ''which prog bands do you actually like the most?''...If the answer is MAGMA,DUN,WEATHER REPORT,ISIS,PELICAN,THE MARS VOLTA etc.,then yes,it seems symphonic prog isn't your thing.


Weather Report yes, others, no. I am really into Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Frank Zappa, Marillion, Beardfish, Jethro Tull (gonna see them on 1. 7., hell yeah!), and the whole Canterbury scene. Oh, and one of my top 3 genres is jazz fusion (or rock, if you prefer that expression).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:53
Allright. For Yes, try Relayer. It's their jazz fusion album.
 
For Genesis, I would personally suggest And Then There Were Three or The Lamb...just my personal favorites, you may not enjoy them as much. Still worth a go
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:55
^ I would suggest anything but And Then There Were Three. Pinch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 02:57
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

^ I would suggest anything but And Then There Were Three. Pinch
 
Right, listen to this man and try their self-titled....or maybe Calling All Stations Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 03:01
You don't have to like Symphonic! It's ok! I don't really either!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 03:05
Originally posted by Tarquin Underspoon Tarquin Underspoon wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

^ I would suggest anything but And Then There Were Three. Pinch
 
Right, listen to this man and try their self-titled....or maybe Calling All Stations Wink

The self-titled is no worse than ATTWT. Calling All Stations is extremely dull, but at least it's not painfully annoying.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 04:45
Well, I actually like quite a few bands, listed as symphonic prog. Spock's Beard is great, then Anglagard, Camel (one of my favourite bands), ELP (also one of my favourites), Focus (do I dare say it again?), Transatlantic... so I guess the problem doesn't lie in symph prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 04:49
I have never understood why people want to like bands they don't like.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 04:53
Originally posted by kole kole wrote:

Well, I actually like quite a few bands, listed as symphonic prog. Spock's Beard is great, then Anglagard, Camel (one of my favourite bands), ELP (also one of my favourites), Focus (do I dare say it again?), Transatlantic... so I guess the problem doesn't lie in symph prog.


It sounds like your tastes are quite similar to mine; I don't dislike Yes and Genesis, I just don't find them as... stimulating... as Änglagård, King Crimson, Marillion... etc. Or Magma (#1 favourite band at the moment), for that matter Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 04:55
Originally posted by Dalezilla Dalezilla wrote:

I have never understood why people want to like bands they don't like.


You know how it is with prog music. It takes time for one to get into it. Especially "harder" stuff... That's what I meant by saying that I tried to like them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:05
I have never liked Genesis much, and I enjoy Yes but they are far from one of my favorite bands. Just because they are two of the most loved bands on this site, doesn't mean you have to agree. Be an individual!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:37
I like Yes, but I've never really got into Genesis. I don't dislike them, but so far I merely think 'they're OK'. I only have Selling England By The Pound by them. Maybe I need to go listen to it at full blast again...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:43
Nothing wrong with you that some expensive psychotherapy can't make worse. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 05:45
Originally posted by kole kole wrote:

Originally posted by Dalezilla Dalezilla wrote:

I have never understood why people want to like bands they don't like.


You know how it is with prog music. It takes time for one to get into it. Especially "harder" stuff... That's what I meant by saying that I tried to like them.


For me, it's more difficult to like Zappa, Crimson then Genesis and Yes. I don't think it's harder to like these two bands then all your favorites you have listed. It's not a shame not liking Yes and Genesis, Beardfish can be difficult to appreciate from the first listening, but for me it's rare that i don't like a cd from the first listening. I like it or not.

So, there's no clear answer to your question, because it's more difficult to know why we love something and not something else, then simply enoying something...Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 06:03
Quote You know how it is with prog music. It takes time for one to get into it. Especially "harder" stuff... That's what I meant by saying that I tried to like them.
Really? Confused

The cure is trying not to care about disliking yes or genesis.


Edited by Paravion - May 28 2010 at 06:06
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