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Logan 
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 Topic: 20 Live Pieces Released in the 1970sPosted: 17 hours 46 minutes ago at 16:03 |
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For this topic I took nine of my favourite live "prog" albums that were released in the the 1970s, plus one non-Prog (Douji Morita) one I love for variety, and went with a favourite track or piece. Then I went through the PA charts for the top love album of the 1970s there and choose a song/piece/ track off each live. PA's chart also has Ricochet and Hhai listed in it top ten 70s live albums, so I skipped those for its list, and Miles Davis' Black Magus would have been included had I not included another Miles Davis in my list. And second Zappa could have played in but I just wanted the one top ranked album per act.
In the case of Tangerine Dream, while the original release at least has Ricochet in two tracks, I would rather have it in one and I have a video with both parts so doing it for both parts. Not sure how much of that album is "properly live" rather than studio, but it is listed as a live. For others like The Snow Goose portion of Camel's A Live Record, that could be treated like a suite, but I'm going with a favourite Camel part and it follows what I have found on youtube. And I could have gone with a more broken down version of ELP's. Solar Music Live can be thought of as a suite (and the track Solar Music has more than one part), but going with my favourite part, but had I found, say, all three of these parts on youtube, then I would have added that. While both Prog Archives and Rate Your Music rank Seconds Out higher than Genesis Live (Seconds out is ranked fifth for the 70s and Genesis live is at 22, I much prefer Genesis Live. With Renaissance, I adore Mother Russia and Scheherazade, but I like how different Ashes Are Burning is from the studio counterpart on this live. My top 10 Magma "Hhaï" Magma Live (released 1975) Tangerine Dream "Ricochet (parts 1 and 2)" Ricochet (released 1975) Area "Cometa rossa" Are(A)zione (released 1975) Hawkwind "Brainstorm" Space Ritual (released 1975) Geinoh Yamashirogumi "Osorezan" Live ''Hirakareta Gassho'' Junen No Tenkai (released 1979) Miles Davis "Prelude (Parts One and Two) Agharta (released 1975) Kraan "Lonesome Liftboy" Kraan Live (released 1975) Gong "Master Builder" Live Etc (released 1977) Henry Cow "Beautiful as the Moon, Terrible as an Army with Banners" Concerts (released 1976) Douji Morita "Sentimental Street センチメンタル通り" Tokyo Cathedral Saint Mary Live (released 1978) (not in PA) PA's Top Ten (nit including any that found its way into my top ten) Gentle Giant "So Sincere" Playing the Fool - The Official Live (released 1977) Grobschnitt "Solar Music II" Solar Music - Live (released 1978)* Yes "Heart of the Sunrise" Yessongs (released 1973) Frank Zappa "Be-Bop Tango (Of The Old Jazzmen's Church)" Roxy & Elsewhere (released 1974) Genesis "Firth of Fifth" Seconds Out (released 1977)* Camel "La Princesse Perdue" A Live Record (released 1978) Kansas "Song for America" Two for the Show (released 1978) Emerson Lake & Palmer "Karn Evil 9 (i. 1st Impression, ii. 2nd Impression, iii. 3rd Impression)" Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends (released 1974) Renaissance "Ashes Are Burning" Live at Carnegie Hall (released 1976) Barclay James Harvest "Summer Soldier" Barclay James Harvest Live (Live, 1974) Multiple choice enabled: Please try to vote for five tracks if you can, but more or less is fine too. Also I would like to hear about other 70s songs/tracks/pieces off live releases that you enjoy either if they are different songs from the albums I chose or different albums altogether. Here is a playlist with all of the selections in the poll. You don't need to check any of this out before voting, or know much to vote, but some might wish to (all tracks can be found at least in my region in the embed). https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4Jn6zs8EixYpfhOsQQxE3mk Edited by Logan - 16 hours 54 minutes ago at 16:55 |
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Posted: 17 hours 16 minutes ago at 16:33 |
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The top ten are all loved by me, and of the other ten Camel's Live Record and the Renaissance has meant the most to me.
The one I barely knew (or remembered) live that impressed me the most is the ELP. I actually love this live and so my icy heart has warmed to ELP again (I always liked the debut and certain music off Trilogy at least). That Gentle Giant album I once liked considerably but is hard going for me now. I do like early era Gentle Giant playing the most (first few albums). GG can get too show-offy for me. Used to like that Solaris album, and still love my choice of track, but not keen on the vocals generally and the album sounds quite cheesy to me now on the whole. And I don't know about that Genesis, sounds too slick to me. I prefer Gabriel era live Genesis, and Gabriel-era Genesis generally. Yessongs was a nice listen and I went with one of the Yes songs that has meant the most to me . Of my top ten, returning to (Are(A)zione) was the highlight. It has been a while and Area is just so good. I have a much better quality album version of that Geinoh Y..., but I do not wish to upload. Edited by Logan - 17 hours 14 minutes ago at 16:35 |
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Posted: 17 hours 6 minutes ago at 16:43 |
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1. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
2. Barclay James Harvest - Summer Soldier 3. Genesis - Firth of Fifth 4. Yes - Heart of the Sunrise 5. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
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Posted: 12 hours 49 minutes ago at 21:00 |
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I have such fond memories of my time with that Area album. Voted for that along with Magma and Kraan. I then voted for the two classic symphonic tracks by Genesis and Yes.
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Posted: 9 hours 38 minutes ago at 00:11 |
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Hawkwind - Brainstorm
ELP - Karn Evil 9 Gentle Giant - So Sincere Tangerine Dream "Ricochet (parts 1 and 2)
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Posted: 8 hours 43 minutes ago at 01:06 |
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ELP: Karn Evil 9. Such a great piece of music. Love this live version.
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Posted: 6 hours 48 minutes ago at 03:01 |
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What a great selection. My first love has to be ELP closely followed by Henry Cow (lucky to see them do this live early 77). Love that Magma track as well but discovered much later in life.
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Posted: 3 hours 17 minutes ago at 06:32 |
Hi, Strange to see this listed and the piece right after "Medicine Man" left behind ... it should be the whole side or it won't matter. That version of MM is fantastic.
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Posted: 3 hours 7 minutes ago at 06:42 |
Hi, Never thought of it as a touched up piece, specially at the time, however, I think that it was rushed out to try and take the shine off the number of bootlegs on TD at the time, since we knew that they could not quite duplicate things on stage, and all their early shows were quite different, until a bit later during Stratosfear when they finally had better equipment, instead of more gorillas on stage! By that time, if you can believe it, I had 4 boots of their stuff and it was all excellent, regardless ... however, I will have to listen to Ricochet again (haven't heard it in 100 years!) and see what I can remember. I kinda wish I still had those boots, though it seems like their Eastgate Music Group has already released a lot of that early live stuff ... and not waste it in the long run! However, I have to admit that I have not heard many of those early releases by the band's grouping. There is a certain feeling I get from that group these days, that is not on par with the music, and the art ... and I can not exactly put my ginfer on it! I imagine that the Eastgate Music Group TD folks don't want it all released, as it will take away from the vastly inferior work they are doing ... and not releasing the evening series they have (long cuts with visuals) almost all of them being really good and more TD than the current version ever will be, which is too mechanical and metallic (equipment ... ) for me!
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Posted: 2 hours 56 minutes ago at 06:53 |
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Genesis - Firth of Fifth
Yes - Heart of the Sunrise Renaissance - Ashes are Burning |
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Posted: 1 hour 14 minutes ago at 08:35 |
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Blimey.... a poll from Greg where I could have voted for half of them!!
TD > Grobschnitt (CANNOT believe that mine was the first vote... what is WRONG with you people?) > Renaissance > Yes > GG
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Posted: 1 hour 4 minutes ago at 08:45 |
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Welcome Back My Friends is my absolute favourite live album and the version of Karn Evil 9 is an undiluted delight but the version of So Sincere on Playing The Fool is really beautiful also and deserves to be mentioned as a great expansion on the original. Be-Bop Tango starts off fantastic but I could personally do without most of the audience participation section . Edited by Mirakaze - 1 hour 3 minutes ago at 08:46 |
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