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Matthew T
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 13:25 |
Six of one and half a dozen of the other.....................depends on the mood. Know one thing though and that is I am still learning about both and music in general.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 13:29 |
Love Jazz, but love prog slightly more. Probably because i'm more familiar with it
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 13:37 |
I like jazz more than prog, especially avant-garde jazz. Much avant-rock is becoming hollow to me these days, and I'm not sure why. It seems my hatred of conventional rock music is seeping outwards.
I would add James Ulmer and Sonny Sharrock as essential jazz guitarists. They're also much better than freaking smooth jazz George Benson. ;-)
undercover_man wrote:
So I started to buy some albums from ECM label to explore more jazz, but I can't say I'm too satisfied. I've never met beauty and emotional depth of my most loving prog bands. Sometimes sounding too happy, sometimes too sentimental, sometimes I missed the dynamics or power of prog. |
That's your problem. Impulse!, Blue Note, and Prestige are where it's at. Not that there's anything wrong with ECM, there's a lot of good music there (even though I only own 1 ECM album), but the essential greats began with those three. Of course, Miles Davis on Columbia is an exception, but I think you understand. ;-)
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Morningrise
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 14:36 |
I do listen sometimes to Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X or Pat Metheny Group...but prefer prog by a long long shot
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 14:37 |
Jazz is the debbil's music.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 14:46 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
I like jazz more than prog, especially avant-garde jazz. Much avant-rock is becoming hollow to me these days, and I'm not sure why. It seems my hatred of conventional rock music is seeping outwards.
I would add James Ulmer and Sonny Sharrock as essential jazz guitarists. They're also much better than freaking smooth jazz George Benson. ;-)
undercover_man wrote:
So I started to buy some albums from ECM label to explore more jazz, but I can't say I'm too satisfied. I've never met beauty and emotional depth of my most loving prog bands. Sometimes sounding too happy, sometimes too sentimental, sometimes I missed the dynamics or power of prog. |
That's your problem. Impulse!, Blue Note, and Prestige are where it's at. Not that there's anything wrong with ECM, there's a lot of good music there (even though I only own 1 ECM album), but the essential greats began with those three. Of course, Miles Davis on Columbia is an exception, but I think you understand. ;-) |
Have you listened to Benson's early records? 
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 14:52 |
I love jazzy Prog, but I have hardly listened to any jazz. I probably should, but I just haven't found the time. I doubt that I would ever like it as much as Prog, but I really can't say yet.
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stonebeard
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 15:04 |
Meh.
I can live without jazz.
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bsms810
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 15:17 |
fuxi wrote:
bsms810 wrote:
I like the incredible musicianship displayed by a lot of jazz artists, but im not a huge jazz fan. I prefer crescendos and climaxes to music, which i dont find as much of in jazz |
You should really try Eberhard Weber's SILENT FEET, or anything by the Pat Metheny Group: climaxes aplenty!
However, the greatest climax in jazz must be Duke Ellington's immortal "Diminuendo and Crescendo in Blue" (from AT NEWPORT). Unless you want to include John Coltrane, who is ALL crescendos. But give me DUKE any time! |
cool, thanks ill have to give them a try
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King Crimson776
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 16:29 |
I think I like them equally... I listen to them for different purposes so it's hard to say.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 19:16 |
The Quiet One wrote:
Have you listened to Benson's early records? |
I don't really see the point. ;-)
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TamanduaRick
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 19:44 |
Well, "jazz" and "prog" don't really mean one thing. They cover so many bases. I love jazz and play it for a living (as well as "prog"), but I probably reach for prog CD's more than jazz CD's lately. I just love music!
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Darklord55
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 19:54 |
I would rather gorp than zzaj any day.
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Nipsey88
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 19:54 |
I love jazz, but I LOVE prog.
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 20:36 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 21:05 |
raised on jazz, my mom played it daily
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 21:06 |
BTW I voted # 2
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The Quiet One
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 21:16 |
Atavachron wrote:
raised on jazz, my mom played it daily
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Zombywoof
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 21:20 |
I can really enjoy some well played jazz and love when the two genres are fused. Has anyone heard the Jazznesis cd? I really enjoy these musicians and their jazzy interpretation of Genesis music. You can listen to some really great renditions here:
http://www.myspace.com/jaumevilaseca
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: January 18 2010 at 21:56 |
Zombywoof wrote:
I can really enjoy some well played jazz and love when the two genres are fused. Has anyone heard the Jazznesis cd? I really enjoy these musicians and their jazzy interpretation of Genesis music. You can listen to some really great renditions here:
http://www.myspace.com/jaumevilaseca
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That's pretty sweet...
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