The official 2009 NFL season thread

rileydog22 wrote: TAMPA TWO FTW

Eh Tampa 2 is for sissies.....
Small athletic D-line? I think not.


 
Go smash em in the mouth!

Wait is tampa reall a 3-4 now? What is with all these teams switching to it?

4-3 FTW!


Edited by JJLehto - August 15 2009 at 22:54

manofmystery wrote: JJLehto wrote: rileydog22 wrote: TAMPA TWO FTW Eh Tampa 2 is for sissies..... Small athletic D-Line? I think not.    Go smash em in the mouth! Wit is tampa reall a 3-4 now? What is with all these teams switching to it? 4-3 FTW!   Yeah, who wants a 3-4 anyway? Not like you can win any Super Bowl's with those Get with the times man; it's all about LBs, not those tubs of lard up front   By the way, about the name "Tampa Two": “My philosophy is really out of the 1975 Pittsburgh Steelers playbook,” said Tony Dungy during media interviews while at Super Bowl XLI. “That is why I have to laugh when I hear 'Tampa 2'. Chuck Noll and Bud Carson — that is where it came from, I changed very little.”

Yeah I know...I read that on Wiki

And I guess there's no real difference in effectiveness between 4-3 and 3-4 but 4-3 makes so much more sense to me.
Besides your Steelers D-line are tubs of lard. The Giants' is quite athletic, AND big. In a 3-4 they just take up space, which is good for letting the LB's attack...but the 4-3 is so much more disruptive.

Look at 2007, NO ONE could stop the patriots (and I dont mean outscoring...actually stopping them). There is just no way to cover all those receivers, and get pressure on Brady or vice versa...he could sit back and throw short passes and out of 5 recievers one is bound to be open.

But with the Giants amazing D-Line they could go into the Dime and cover all those receivers yet still bring pressure with only 4. When you do throw in an LB blitz with such a D-line..well it was devestating.
Maybe I need to get with the times...but I like my defense to be built on the D-Line.
EDIT: OR you could go with the Ravens original 4-3 style. 2 REALLY huge D-Tackles that hog most of the line so the DE's have cleaner shots at the QB and of course that frees up the LB's.
THAT'S how I would run my team.



Edited by JJLehto - August 15 2009 at 22:55

Nah, and like I said no real "better" defense, I just prefer the 4-3
And to be fair the 70's Steelers, 80's Bears, 2000 Ravens, and 2007 Giants (which shut down the greatest offense in NFL history) ALL 4-3

I'm curious about Vince Young. Anyone know what his status is for this season?
I figured he would struggle adjusting to the NFL....but damn!
Gotta feel for the guy a little bit, he went from being on top of the WORLD in college, single handily winning one of the greatest title games ever, a true god in Texas...and REALLY struggled in the pros, not just physically but mentally. His stats were bad, and he got replaced by old timer Kerry Collins. Not to mention the team went on perfectly fine without Young...

Talk about a rough start.

OH! And your Bucs should at least have a good running game. You guys snagged Derrick Ward from the G-men


Edited by JJLehto - August 16 2009 at 00:00

I was pleased with the 23-0 win against the Skins in the Ravens first pre-season game.With Rex Ryan,Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard leaving there are questions if our defense will be as good as before,and I think the D did a great job.

Edited by TheProgtologist - August 16 2009 at 02:35

Well now people don't get TOO excited/down. It is only pre season.
It's good to test out draft picks/backups  but really you never can even tell how hard anyone is going.

And yes, Ward was a beast. Well actually he spent like 3 years on the team just injured, but when he finally was used...damn! Quick and strong. Twas a good RB. Seems to have a bit of trouble staying healthy though.

So much for Favre staying retired.  Yeesh.

You're kidding right?

Is anyone seriously surprised?

My Steelers won their first pres season game, i'm happy with that.

Did anyone notice that the Lions have won 7 games in a row?  Yeah, so they were all pre-season games.  Want to make something of it?