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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2009 at 23:36
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

^ im not arguing that every call was right but come on, picking out one bad one and saying that you got jobbed because of it is silly, doesnt change that fact it was a turnover.  I do thank applaud hasselsack for living up to his ability in throwing that pick.  Maybe he'll find more success in his tv commercial career (seems to have a hell of an agent).   The Seahawks were a weak team that year but they also played against the weakest NFC field, possibly, ever.  The reason that game was in question at any point was that Bill Cowher had ducked back into his offensive shell, which had kept him from being a winning playoff coach for years before, that I, like many, thought he had broken free of during that years run.  I know that Holmgren fanned the flames surrounding the officiating with his very unprofessional, and bitter, behavior after the loss but while he might not get over the loss I hope the rest of Seattle eventually does.  Oh, and any thought that the NFL had a pro Steelers bias that year could be quickly buried with a review of the Colts game.
 
On another note: Great parade in Pittsburgh for the champs today.  I believe that the population lining the parade route actually exceeded that of the city itself.  We are a nation!
 
Just sayin', there were calls so bad that day that it boggles the mind.  I don't argue that the Seahawks did not play particularly well, and they've developed a knack for blowing big games.  Too bad Jeramy Stevens couldn't have been in jail that day...he was a lot of other times. 
 
I would however argue that the Steelers, as a premier franchise, get a lot of breaks, in the same way that Michael Jordan got a lot of non-calls, foul-wise, during his career.
 
In the meantime, enjoy the championship and let's look forward to next year, where I'm not seeing any hope for the Seahawks..    
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Points: 4335 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2009 at 01:16
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

 
I would however argue that the Steelers, as a premier franchise, get a lot of breaks, in the same way that Michael Jordan got a lot of non-calls, foul-wise, during his career.
 
In the meantime, enjoy the championship and let's look forward to next year, where I'm not seeing any hope for the Seahawks..    
 
While, as a fan, I sure I'll still cry foul at every penalty not benefitting my team I'm learning to believe in human error over conspiracy.  Going to have to take it one week at a time but maybe I'll reach a break through eventually.  LOL  On an officiating side note: I was shocked to see them actually throw a flag on the offensive lineman who was tasked with holding James Harrison this week.  I say "holding" instead of blocking because if you watch Steelers' games you'd see that Harrison is held on almost every play (when he rushes) every week yet it almost always goes unnoticed.  Guess they can't throw a flag every play. 


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The top ten or fifteen pass rushers ALL get held every play.  That's just how the game goes.  

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Points: 7910 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2009 at 09:45
Chiefs have a new GM and coach. I'm feeling very optimistic.

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Points: 8238 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2009 at 09:56
Since the Cowboys don't even have a first rounder in the draft it will be even longer until summer camp arrives.  My prayer is that Jerry Jones has the wisdom to jettison T.O. in the interim but I really doubt that will happen.  It would make way too much sense.
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Points: 8844 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2009 at 18:24
At least their prospects of getting Ray Lewis are looking good, since Jerry Jones seems to have a knack for picking up felons and other unsavory characters.  

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

At least their prospects of getting Ray Lewis are looking good, since Jerry Jones seems to have a knack for picking up felons and other unsavory characters.  
 
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The New England Patriots on Saturday traded quarterback Matt Cassel to the Kansas City Chiefs. 
 
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I was at the store when I heard a guy on his cell phone telling a buddy that the Chiefs got Cassel today. I gave him a look like, "I don't mean to eves drop, but did I hear you correctly?"

Seems that Pioli and Hayley aren't wasting any time here. Really making some moves.

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Cassel and Vrabel for a second round pick? I can definitely live with that.

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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Cassel and Vrabel for a second round pick? I can definitely live with that.

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hahahha... I saw that... what did you all have... video of Belicheat in bed with a guy or something LOL

hell of a trade....  Cassel had like a 100 QB rating the last 10 games after he settled in.
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Points: 8844 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2009 at 19:13
Vrabel may not have many quality years left in him, but Cassel is such an upgrade over Thigpen.  

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yep..... better make sure Brady has barbed wire and pillboxes around him next year... then again... we are talking the Patriots and Belichick.... he could call me up... coach me during an off week and throwing to Randy Moss... I could lead that team to a 10-6 season.  He can flat out coach.....
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Points: 8844 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2009 at 19:31
He is one of the most defensive-oriented coaches in the NFL.  I imagine that Cassel's solid QB work had a lot more to do with the offensive coordinator and QB coach than with Belichick himself.  

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

He is one of the most defensive-oriented coaches in the NFL.  I imagine that Cassel's solid QB work had a lot more to do with the offensive coordinator and QB coach than with Belichick himself.  


oh that's true... but it is his staff... he surrounds himself with the best out there.. . they come and they go (promotions to head coach other teams)... but that team doesn't slip a bit. What is a head coach these days but a manager... a football CEO.
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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Vrabel may not have many quality years left in him, but Cassel is such an upgrade over Thigpen.  


Word has it that Vrabel was brought in to add some leadership to the team. We need it.

Very happy today, though. These guys have really come in and made a statement.

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That's true, I wasn't thinking about that. 

Like I said, Cassel alone makes it worth it for the Chiefs.  Some leadership and a couple good years at LB from Vrabel are just icing on the cake. 

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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Vrabel may not have many quality years left in him, but Cassel is such an upgrade over Thigpen.  


Word has it that Vrabel was brought in to add some leadership to the team. We need it.

Very happy today, though. These guys have really come in and made a statement.

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Sorry to rain on the parade but Cassel will be a dud outside the NE system, why else do you think they felt fine getting rid of him for so little.  Any QB capable of throwing a 5-10 yard slant would be a star in NE.  That being said the Chiefs didn't give up enough to consider it a bad deal on their part.  I do think they'd have been better off developing Thigpen as he played pretty damn well with no tools to work with last year.  Vrabel to me is a head scratcher, there's nothing left in the tank for this guy defensively.  Maybe they brought him in so that if Gonzo leaves they'll have a TE option LOL (I am still a little bitter about Vrabels two season ending TD catches a few years back costing me my fantasy league championship, by 1 pt, a few years back). 


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Points: 8844 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2009 at 12:56

Very hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that Brian Dawkins will be playing for a team other than the Eagles next year. 

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Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Vrabel may not have many quality years left in him, but Cassel is such an upgrade over Thigpen.  


Word has it that Vrabel was brought in to add some leadership to the team. We need it.

Very happy today, though. These guys have really come in and made a statement.

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Sorry to rain on the parade but Cassel will be a dud outside the NE system, why else do you think they felt fine getting rid of him for so little.  Any QB capable of throwing a 5-10 yard slant would be a star in NE.  That being said the Chiefs didn't give up enough to consider it a bad deal on their part.  I do think they'd have been better off developing Thigpen as he played pretty damn well with no tools to work with last year.  Vrabel to me is a head scratcher, there's nothing left in the tank for this guy defensively.  Maybe they brought him in so that if Gonzo leaves they'll have a TE option LOL (I am still a little bitter about Vrabels two season ending TD catches a few years back costing me my fantasy league championship, by 1 pt, a few years back). 


Unless you've got the gift of being prophetic, then maybe it should be a 'wait and see' rather than writing him off. The kid came in, filled in for a future hall of fame QB and won games. A far cry better than the Huard/Croyle show from the past couple of seasons.

He may flake out, but this team needs a young QB for the future rather than throwing money at a 32+ year old who had a few seasons left in him. Also hard to judge Cassel on one season. You'll NEVER hear me saying, "Well, we're playoff bound now!" I'm not smug enough to predict the future. But, I do know how bad the QB situation has been here and it's time to go into another direction.

Lastly, I'll take Pioli and Hayley's evaluation of talent over Peterson and Herm (or Vermeil, for that matter) any day of the week. The previous administrations had a long history of flame outs (Ryan Simms, anyone?). I'm more optimistic now than before.

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