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Posted: September 27 2014 at 11:04
Argonaught wrote:
Kati wrote:
I have 4 choices and picked McCartney if I had to pick another I'd pick Eric Clapton because my guitar gently weeps is classic! :) xxx
<div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"><span style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">Since Eric Clapton is now a Beatle and My Guitar Gently Weeps is prog, I'd propose to make this poll entirely freestyle </span>
<div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"><span style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"></span><div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"><span style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">... let me try something .. would you describe this1987 Astrud Gilberto + James Last album as: </span><div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"><div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">(1) Baiana-In-Exile prog<div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">(2) Prog-related pop big band<div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">(3) "Ai, ai, ai, que coisa louca" prog<div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"><div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">
hoh wait Argonaught, you are pushing it a bit far there hahaha! No one here is discussion how prog the Beatles are on this forum topic even if they were at the forefront in my opinion to be honest and Clapton in this topic makes perfect sense, however your freestyle is a bit too advanced here
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Posted: September 27 2014 at 12:32
Dean wrote:
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Kati wrote:
Dean wrote:
None of the above.</span><div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"><div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;"><span style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">
</span><div style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">Often called the 5th Beatle we all know the influence George Martin had on the Beatles recordings but we tend to overlook that he was a composer and musician. That piece of electronic music, (later recorded by an orchestra and later still by a little known Prog band by the name of Van der Graaf Generator), contains everything he brought to that party to the extent that it actually sounds like a collage of dozens of Beatles records - there's bits of Revolver in there, bits of Sgt Pepper, bits of Magical Mystery Tour - the trumpet refrain, the sawing cellos, the organ crescendo, were all musical touches that Martin the musician introduced into those Beatles tunes that lifted them above the ordinary. To me, Martin with the Beatles was like Wakeman with Yes: Anderson, Squire & Howe had the tunes and the ideas, but it was Wakeman that brought those disparate ideas together with his musician's touch and expertise. John, Paul & George had the tunes and the ideas, but it was Martin that brought those ideas together because he was a musician as much as he was a producer - he made the Beatles sound "proggy" (for want of a better word).
I disagree. Martin was actually the most Classical Beatle. The most Prog Beatle? The great Geoff Emerick. The Recording engineer and boy genius for both Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's and, unofficially, Abbey Road.
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Posted: September 27 2014 at 15:07
^Stu Sutcliffe, Brian Eptein and Billy Peston were also refered to as "The Fifth Beatle" at different times in the press. Time to add Geoff to the party.
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 10:22
Dean wrote:
by the current reckoning that makes him the 39th Beatle.
With the inclusion of Revolver artist and close band friend from their Hamburg days Klaus Voorman (he was also referred to as the 5th Beatle) that would make Emerick No.6. But why split hairs?
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 13:41
the 39th Beatle was a jest, following on from Mitch Benn's Fringe comedy routine...
Mitch Benn, Liverpudlian musical comedian, performed an Edinburgh Festival Fringe show entitled Mitch Benn is the 37th Beatle in which he counted up everyone claimed to be the fifth Beatle and tried to arrange them, "in descending order of Beatledom", including himself. This show was later performed on BBC Radio 4. The fifth Beatle on his list was Pete Best, with the rest of the list consisting of Stuart Sutcliffe (6th), Tony Sheridan (7th), the rest of the original Quarrymen (8th-12th), Andy White (13th), Jimmie Nicol (14th), Billy Preston (15th), Eric Clapton (16th), Brian Epstein (17th), George Martin (18th), Derek Taylor (19th), Mal Evans (20th), Neil Aspinall (21st), Badfinger (22nd-25th), Jeff Lynne (26th), Monty Python (27th-32nd), Neil Innes (33rd), David Catlin-Birch (34th), Neil Harrison (35th) and Elvis Costello (36th)
The point of the skit is that several people have been called the 5th Beatle but there was no 5th Beatle, the phrase I used was "Often called the 5th Beatle".
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Posted: September 30 2014 at 06:34
George. To release albums like "Wonderwall Music" and "Electronic Sound" with its moog synthesizers... That's pretty progressive.
"All things must pass" was a triple album, also a proggy move, even though the songs were no prog.
But didn't Ringo compose something for ARP synthesizer?
All 4 have some amount of prog in them, I suppose.
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