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Points: 20032 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 14:44
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

i remember many heated debates on this subject for the last 3 years, everything is not prog - an album is either prog or it isn't prog - Yes is 100% prog, Madonna isn't prog , not even .001% Ermm
 
when rating albums in reviews some wrongly give a prog related album 5 stars, "Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music ". surely it makes better sense to give Proto and Prog related a 4 star rating,  "Excellent addition to any prog music collection " or 3 stars "Good, but non-essential "....simple, innit?
 
there are far too many sub-genres  and pigeon-holes on this site as it is, any other system or "charts of progressiveness" (????Confused) , "tags and algorithms"  ( Sleepy )   would cause even more confusion Stern Smile
 
this always reminds me of that Robin Williams film "Dead Poets" where he is a  teacher, analysing pieces of prose to a degree where the magic has gone from it and you just end up with "excremental" analysis - relax, have fun, enjoy the music and STOP THINKING!! Big smile
 
 
 
 

Well put Mr Fred sir. I can just see the arguments now  -

"I think Tool/Dream Theater/Radiohead (delete where inapplicable) are 67.38 % prog"

"No they're not you Censored. Everyone knows they're only 63.39 recurring% prog because their first album isn't very prog bla bla bla".
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 02:50
Unless, that is, one of the more technically minded out there could develop some kind of a programme which could analyse music streams according to average song length (this to be modified according to their instrumental section ratio), their content of double necked guitars, Mellotrons and Hammond organs, divide this by the obscurity rating of the lyrics, add in some kind of "strange-musical-instrument" algorithm and finally include a filter to reduce the result the higher the Phil Collins influence (a curious clothing modifier could be manually added later in the case of a tie-break).

Thus:

1974 Genesis = 100% prog (lack of strange musical instruments being negated by the manual application of the curious clothing modifier)

1994 Genesis = 40% prog

All we need now is a programmer with exactly the same music taste as me & we're sorted

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Points: 20032 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 06:52
I'll start on it immediately, although I may need a more thorough spec for the curious clothing modifier. Is this just for animal-related headgear or does it cover plants and strange bubbly creatures as well?
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 07:00
I don't know, I think mathematically speaking, some things are 0% prog and some things are worthy of negative values.

See, even with the framework proposed, there is room for argument and disagreement. LOL
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 08:23
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I'll start on it immediately, although I may need a more thorough spec for the curious clothing modifier. Is this just for animal-related headgear or does it cover plants and strange bubbly creatures as well?


Animal related headgear, plants, strange bubbly creatures... and Chris Squire:


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Points: 67 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2009 at 12:31
First thing I noticed when discovering the site was how ridiculous some of the bands on here are. Nightwish....when the hell did they become prog?

Too many bands getting a place on the site. Dragonforce'll be on next.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2009 at 12:37
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I'll start on it immediately, although I may need a more thorough spec for the curious clothing modifier. Is this just for animal-related headgear or does it cover plants and strange bubbly creatures as well?


Animal related headgear, plants, strange bubbly creatures... and Chris Squire:



Wow ... talking about being pretentious and self-indulgent. I guess this happens when you go from a to b to c ... eventually you don't even know where you started as an artist.LOL
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