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Not bad per say, but certainly not my cup of tea. I hope the rest of the album is different (I doubt) and indeed better.
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Meh. 
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Wilson is promising that more or less each of the cuts on The Harmony Codex will take different musical approaches, so perhaps some of his more conventional prog inclinations will come back out. In any case "Economies of Scale" is a nice tune and I'm down for The Future Bites II: The Squeakquel if it does end up like that.
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I used to be a Steven Wilson fanboy, but I don't think that, beyond the remixes and some parts of Closure/Continuation, anything that he has done after The Raven that Refused to Sing is for me.

He can do whatever he wants, I just don't dig this music he is making.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

... it's very NY stylized in modern dance ... a lot of which is very empty and soul'ess. Interesting, and not bad, mind you, but in the end, you won't remember a lot of it later ... it's not like Misha or Rudy, that you remembered those flights through the air for years in your mind and wonder how they did that!
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Hi,

That's NOT to say that it is wrong, or bad ... that is to say that the dancing itself is not aligned with the music, very well, and most dance, other than ballet tends to align itself as well or better than possible, to ensure that folks "get it" and then can appreciate the art form.

Experimental theater, and dance, is often a serious issue and you can only see them in the big 5 (LA, NY, London, Tokyo and Paris) and no one else will ever see them or even check out a filmed portion of it, and as such a lot of the development of the dance stuff is left behind, but in the end, I wonder how much is really good enough for your eyes and mine.

You know what this video needed? BOB FOSSE ... and tell SW to shut up in the design of the dancing!, and the supposed "meaning" ... which is not clear at all!
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Havent heard it yet and in no hurry whatsoever. His first 4 solo albums are absolutely superb. I'll hold onto the glory years and not worry about anything else. As someone said no chance I'll be dishing out any bucks on this. There are probably 30+ releases I would rather buy this year. Not sweating it.
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^ My strategy as well. Listening to everything on Spotify/Bandcamp and at the end of the year I’ll buy my favorite ten releases of the year. Using AwesomeProg.com to keep track of the list … 
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Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I used to be a Steven Wilson fanboy, but I don't think that, beyond the remixes and some parts of Closure/Continuation, anything that he has done after The Raven that Refused to Sing is for me.

He can do whatever he wants, I just don't dig this music he is making.


 

edefakiel's opinion mirrors my feelings...exactly. Wink
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I used to be a Steven Wilson fanboy, but I don't think that, beyond the remixes and some parts of Closure/Continuation, anything that he has done after The Raven that Refused to Sing is for me.

He can do whatever he wants, I just don't dig this music he is making.


 

edefakiel's opinion mirrors my feelings...exactly. Wink


This.  Loved his PT stuff.  Loved his first 4 or so albums.  Thought It Bites was a giant pile of pop horse sh*t.  Have listened to it maybe 2 times and that was enough. 

Not sure why some artists feel the need to completely abandon the fans that put them where they are.  Without those early fans of PT and his earlier solo stuff, he would not be where he is.  Instead of sticking with what we all (or many of us) think works, he goes pop.  

Have only listed to the one song.  Maybe the rest is better - waiting to see.  If it is more of the same, I am likely done with the guy and his music.  Better if he just sticks with remixing 5.1 albums of the past instead of spewing out more It Bites stuff.
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^What if he doesn't want to continue doing the same stuff again? He doesn't owe any of us anything.
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I think the solution to avoid all the anger I'm reading in various posts here is to avoid being a "fanboy" in the first place. Don't get too attached to your favorite artists. It's not a marriage, there is no commitment. They don't owe you anything, and you don't owe them. Chill.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I think the solution to avoid all the anger I'm reading in various posts here is to avoid being a "fanboy" in the first place. Don't get too attached to your favorite artists. It's not a marriage, there is no commitment. They don't owe you anything, and you don't owe them. Chill.


I'm not angry at all. As I said: he can make whatever music he wants to make. I was a fanboy because I was 15 when FoaBP released and I thought that it was one of the best things to ever exist.

Who hasn't idolatrized someone as a teenager?
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^ I guess I did so as well, and there were plenty of times I was disappointed when an artist I really liked released something totally unexpected which I really did not like. But that was then, this is now. My reaction today is to turn towards other releases that I like better, and then to return every now and then. There is SO MUCH great music being released every month, it's not worth focusing on a small handful of artists.
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As Manuel said....not bad , but not my cup of tea . I prefer his earlier material (as well as PT)  and I don't play either To The Bone or Future Bites very often.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

There is SO MUCH great music being released every month, it's not worth focusing on a small handful of artists.
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Originally posted by rushaholic rushaholic wrote:

Thought It Bites was a giant pile of pop horse sh*t. 

they're decent band tho!

Certainly you meant The Future Bites
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Originally posted by rushaholic rushaholic wrote:

was hoping for more raven and less future bites.  not going to happen is it?

Impossible Tightrope is more Raven than Future Bites but that's all I've heard so far.
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What the f**k! cheezy copy of Thom Yorke plus some Gabriel POP stuffs and Chris Martin vocal style. And all of them gathered in cheap Video Clip that try to "Show Off" artistic.
I can't say is a bad. Its HORRIBLE .....
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Impossible Tightrope sounds very fillery not a fan of Economies but at least that was _a_ song
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