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Which Albums by Rush are real Prog Rock? And Why? |
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M27Barney 
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THIS! AND THE ASSERTION THAT GENESIS GOT BETTER AFTER W&W IS THE MOST LUDICROUS STATEMENT EVER MADE IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. Micky is Donald Trump nailed on.... |
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Cristi
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please stop using all caps. Are you screaming at us? All caps post are aggressive. So you disagree with someone, what's the big deal? So someone likes the trio Genesis more. I disagree as well.But there's no need to get all caps angry, throw insults etc. |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: November 23 2018 at 02:28 |
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2112 and Moving Pictures.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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M27Barney
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Posted: November 23 2018 at 14:53 |
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Mickey mouse dishes it out so he gets it back in spades...anybody who disagrees with him is a troll...I felt like shouting a bit...catharsis and all that...
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cstack3
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Posted: November 24 2018 at 14:57 |
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Am I the only person on PA who is not totally in love with Rush?
I mean, they've done some good to near-great music, but Lifeson wasn't in the same league as Fripp, Howe, Hackett etc. Also, Geddy Lee's voice can really be irritating. What is it that I am missing? I see no beauty in their music, unlike Yes, King Crimson, Genesis etc.
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verslibre
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Posted: November 24 2018 at 15:41 |
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They're definitely not for everyone. Seems you either love Rush or you don't. I have the same issue with Porcupine Tree. I just can't get into 'em.
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Padraic
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Posted: November 24 2018 at 16:22 |
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The beginning seems easy: Caress of Steel. Fly by Night had the inklings of something special, and I f**king love that album, but it's not quite there yet. The end is much harder and is intertwined in the endless, unresolved, "what is prog rock?" discussion. In the most conservative sense, I'd say their last prog rock album was Hemispheres.
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GrafHaarschnitt
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Posted: November 25 2018 at 07:30 |
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I don´t see the problem. He obviously isn´t serious about it xD.
Edit: That was about cristis post. Edited by GrafHaarschnitt - November 25 2018 at 07:32 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: November 25 2018 at 10:56 |
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Nope. There's several on here that are not big fans. I'm sure you can find at least a few who don't like each of the big bands(Yes, Floyd, Genesis, KC, ELP, JT)and some who don't like the next bands up such as Camel, VDGG, GG, Moody Blues, Kansas etc.
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You don't have to be totally in love with any band. You confirm Rush has done good to near great music, to me that is more than enough to like a band a lot. Whether Lifeson was in the same league as those mentioned is subjective. I've never been a huge fan of Fripp or Howe, Hackett is better than all of them. Geddy's voice issue is a long in the tooth discussion, growing up I never had any issue with it and I suspect most of the prog/hard rock world does not either. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as the 3 you mention made magical music before Rush came into their own. Those bands are influences to Rush members and Rush music, that's all. I don't think you are missing anything other than you may not enjoy harder prog or Zeppelin styled prog rock, at least in the early years....
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SteveG
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Posted: November 25 2018 at 12:59 |
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Rush definitely invited super fandom for many reasons. I was never a big fan until I saw them live. Suddenly you're in with thousands of Rush fanatics while the band plays their heart out. Very infectious stuff.
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Edited by Rednight - November 25 2018 at 13:17 |
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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… an The Garden from Clockwork Angels (and IMO, many others). There is tremendous beauty in many of the lyrics as well, which may be hard for some to hear if they are put off by Geddy's voice.
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Barbu
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It's well known around here that Barney is an angry, agressive a****le. No problem for me saying it since I'm not really serious about it. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: November 25 2018 at 14:56 |
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Wow, anyone who complains about Geddy's voice needs to hear Pavlov's Dog or Budgie. You will then appreciate Geddy. :D
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grantman
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Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:29 |
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Caress of steel,farewell to kings and hemispheres, that,s prog or progressive rock these 3 are the gems
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Uh, Roll The Bones
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cstack3
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Well said! I've enjoyed some of their music over the years, but I just don't seek it out. They have done an amazing job as a 3 piece, and Geddy's ability to sing/play bass and also bring synth into the mix is very impressive. However, I don't find them as progressive as their peers like Yes, KC or Genesis in terms of composition or musical talent. I view them as more of an arena oriented rock band. They can be fun, I saw them on a tiny stage just after their second LP came out in the 1970s! Most of the bands I played in back then covered "Working Man" because it was fairly easy to play and was a good song. It's all good, believe me! |
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 26 2018 at 02:47 |
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Rush are an enigma. They've been a prog rock band, they've been a rock and roll band, and they've been an 80's arena power rock trio. Fair paly to them. If they'd still been making albums like Hemispheres by the end of the 80's tey would have died a death commercially, and just a few thousands nerds in anoraks would still be following them.
They managed to transition to a credible 80's sound, without dumbing down and selling out, like Genesis did, which has got to count for something. |
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verslibre
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Posted: November 26 2018 at 11:21 |
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Bingo. Rush did that with far greater success than Saga managed to when the latter went full-blast pop with Behaviour and Wildest Dreams, and then attempted to regroup (somewhat) with Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes. Rush managed to hold on to both their hard rock base (well, some of it) and the prog fans with Moving Pictures, Signals and Grace Under Pressure. But they just had great songs.
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