Led Zeppelin Celebration Day

Forgive me, as I might be late in learning this. Have any of you seen/heard clips from the Zep reunion concert? OMG! They're awful! I mean, really, really, really bad!!!

And they released this crap to the public! I simply cannot comprehend how any musicians with the least bit of integrity could do that. It's appalling.

Page, who was never good, is downright sloppy with tons of mistakes. Plant's voice is shot. He lets the audience sing a lot of the parts, or he sings an octave lower or in a different key. God, he's horrific.

The only one who does a great job is John Paul Jones. He was always my favorite member of the band. In the vid, he plays keys and bass pedals on 'Stairway.' He never got his due.

Anyway, avoid this DVD/CD! The YT clips I viewed shocked me. RIP, Zep. (Never was a big fan anyway.)

Genesis shifted down a key or two here and there on their 2007 tour. These guys reach a certain age and cannot hit those notes. It's fairly common and hardly crime of the century.

I've not seen the Zep reunion film, but I suspect it's mediocre at best, and probably better if you were there. A bunch of guys in their sixties playing music from over 40 years ago, but minus the energy, charisma and sexuality with which it was supposed to be presented the first time round, is never going to be that great is it? Best avoided if it upsets you.

chopper wrote: Blacksword wrote: A bunch of guys in their sixties fifties playing music from over 40 years ago, but minus the energy, charisma and sexuality with which it was supposed to be presented the first time round, is never going to be that great is it? Best avoided if it upsets you.   You just described my band almost perfectly Andy.

I've been keen to buy it for a while now, and I've purposely avoided watching/listening to any previews.  Generally, it bothers me when a band changes the keys to their songs (though it's definitely understandable), as I consider the original key to be a key (ha) part of the song itself.  And I would have expected Zeppelin to do this - Plant's voice is a lot different these days, and I think he still has the chops to pull off a good vocal performance, albeit in a different register from Zeppelin's usual range (witness his album with Ally Krauss).  I'm enough of a Zeppelin fan that I would like to own the CD and/or DVD just to take part in the occasion, which I really didn't think would ever happen.  Generally, reviews have been quite positive - probably from people who are sympathetic to the demands on the band that this material presents at such an advanced age.  Could a younger cover band have done it better?  Probably.  But the sense of occasion, especially for a band this near and dear to my heart, is probably worth enduring a few bum notes and adjusted key signatures.

humor4u1959 wrote: Plant's voice is shot. He lets the audience sing a lot of the parts, or he sings an octave lower or in a different key. God, he's horrific.

I have it. Not watched  it yet  but the general consensus seems to be that it is amazing. The bits  I have seen look great.

Blacksword wrote: Genesis shifted down a key or two here and there on their 2007 tour. These guys reach a certain age and cannot hit those notes. It's fairly common and hardly crime of the century. I've not seen the Zep reunion film, but I suspect it's mediocre at best, and probably better if you were there. A bunch of guys in their sixties playing music from over 40 years ago, but minus the energy, charisma and sexuality with which it was supposed to be presented the first time round, is never going to be that great is it? Best avoided if it upsets you.

Uh...I have news for you. Genesis lowered the key on ALL songs on their 2007 tour except for 2, 'Follow You, Follow Me' and another one that escapes me now. They said this in interviews. But, Collins sounded good! I have no problem with that.

Plant, on the other hand, was horrible. As a musician, yes, it upsets me when bands put out crap and seem to have no pride. They know how dumb some die-hard fans can be. And they laugh all the way to the bank.

humor4u1959 wrote: Blacksword wrote: Genesis shifted down a key or two here and there on their 2007 tour. These guys reach a certain age and cannot hit those notes. It's fairly common and hardly crime of the century. I've not seen the Zep reunion film, but I suspect it's mediocre at best, and probably better if you were there. A bunch of guys in their sixties playing music from over 40 years ago, but minus the energy, charisma and sexuality with which it was supposed to be presented the first time round, is never going to be that great is it? Best avoided if it upsets you. Uh...I have news for you. Genesis lowered the key on ALL songs on their 2007 tour except for 2, 'Follow You, Follow Me' and another one that escapes me now. They said this in interviews. But, Collins sounded good! I have no problem with that. Plant, on the other hand, was horrible. As a musician, yes, it upsets me when bands put out crap and seem to have no pride. They know how dumb some die-hard fans can be. And they laugh all the way to the bank.

So you're saying we're dumb for buying Celebration Day? Nice.

humor4u1959 wrote: TODDLER wrote: humor4u1959 wrote: Forgive me, as I might be late in learning this. Have any of you seen/heard clips from the Zep reunion concert? OMG! They're awful! I mean, really, really, really bad!!! And they released this crap to the public! I simply cannot comprehend how any musicians with the least bit of integrity could do that. It's appalling. Page, who was never good, is downright sloppy with tons of mistakes. Plant's voice is shot. He lets the audience sing a lot of the parts, or he sings an octave lower or in a different key. God, he's horrific. The only one who does a great job is John Paul Jones. He was always my favorite member of the band. In the vid, he plays keys and bass pedals on 'Stairway.' He never got his due. Anyway, avoid this DVD/CD! The YT clips I viewed shocked me. RIP, Zep. (Never was a big fan anyway.)   Jimmy Page was very accomplished as a player in the early 60's...but what the hell happened? I have recording sessions of Page with Sonny Boy Williamson where his guitar contains zero distortion. His sound has the tone quality of a George Benson. He was much cleaner when he played on the YARDBIRDS album LITTLE GAMES..but still on a downslide at that point in time and specifically on electric. He was VERY schooled in the area of the open tuning style European Folk. He mastered most or all of the guitar styles evident on Pentangle and Fairport Convention albums. Some of the Led Zeppelin songs contained more than 14 or 15 chord variations, yet his electric playing was often horrific. What the hell happened to him? Jeff Beck was his understudy so figure that one out? I just never understood how a guitar player with all that knowledge could end up sounding like a 10 year old frustrated with the pentatonic scale.   Thank you, Toddler! First of all, Page was a heroin addict for a long time, but one cannot blame his playing on that.

I think some of the sloppy playing on later albums can be blamed on that (partly). I'm thinking of the dreadful solo on "Hots on for Nowhere". Also, The Stones were waiting to use the studio so Page was in a rush.

humor4u1959 wrote: Forgive me, as I might be late in learning this. Have any of you seen/heard clips from the Zep reunion concert? OMG! They're awful! I mean, really, really, really bad!!! And they released this crap to the public! I simply cannot comprehend how any musicians with the least bit of integrity could do that. It's appalling. Page, who was never good, is downright sloppy with tons of mistakes. Plant's voice is shot. He lets the audience sing a lot of the parts, or he sings an octave lower or in a different key. God, he's horrific. The only one who does a great job is John Paul Jones. He was always my favorite member of the band. In the vid, he plays keys and bass pedals on 'Stairway.' He never got his due. Anyway, avoid this DVD/CD! The YT clips I viewed shocked me. RIP, Zep. (Never was a big fan anyway.)