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    Posted: December 20 2019 at 11:32
I noticed something interesting today while listening to my Pendragon playlist. This may have already been posted and discussed, but on their song "Am I really losing you" from their Window of Life album, there is an familiar chord pattern/melody that starts at the 2:33 mark. Not making any judgment on it one way or the other, just found it interesting. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this. 
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You mean some strange resemblance to the track from Yes' Relayer album?
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Yes. It's great and it's pure Pendragon.
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It is even obvious quote. But Pendragon are so musically able that they were able to copy classic prog and add their own ingredients so that their music sound even more magical than blockbusters like Yes or Pink Floyd.
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It was obvious but I have heard more blatant rip offs. For example there was a direct lift from ELP on the first Mars Hollow album. I don't remember the song but apparently the band considered it an homage and not a rip off. I guess you get away with it by calling it a tribute. :P

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Pendragon is an amazing band. Definitely in my top 5 favorites. They just take forever to release new albums.
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Originally posted by Ridgeback Ridgeback wrote:

Pendragon is an amazing band. Definitely in my top 5 favorites. They just take forever to release new albums.


Apart from the recent 5-CD box set and the new CD just released. Wink
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The thing with this album is there are a couple references/ similarities to classic bands.

From what I recall there are Hide In Your Shell and Dance On A Volcano melodies hidden in one of the tracks.
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Never heard pendragon before, but that sounds awfully familiar
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Can't WAIT to hear the new 3-disc release! The promo sounds amazing!
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Can't WAIT to hear the new 3-disc release! The promo sounds amazing!

It really is quite superb. I will try to get round to reviewing it shortly.
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Can't WAIT to hear the new 3-disc release! The promo sounds amazing!
Never been that big into the band, but it's one of the best albums I've heard in the last five or so years.
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Let's see if any Rush fans on here can place the intro(starting at 1 second)to this track by Enchant. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYmXYmxYfMw
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Let's see if any Rush fans on here can place the intro(starting at 1 second)to this track by Enchant. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYmXYmxYfMw

I'm sorry but that's just a blatent rip off. I've never heard anything from this band either but this is not a good first impression of either of these groups.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Let's see if any Rush fans on here can place the intro(starting at 1 second)to this track by Enchant. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYmXYmxYfMw

I'm sorry but that's just a blatent rip off. I've never heard anything from this band either but this is not a good first impression of either of these groups.

The Pendragon is a pretty blatant ripoff too. It doesn't bother me that much actually. It did initially but I got used to it. I think these bands know they are "small fish" and the bands they are "borrowing" from won't go after them. 


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Let's see if any Rush fans on here can place the intro(starting at 1 second)to this track by Enchant. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYmXYmxYfMw


I can't, what is it?
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Let's see if any Rush fans on here can place the intro(starting at 1 second)to this track by Enchant. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYmXYmxYfMw


I can't, what is it?

The riff is lifted straight from Xanadu
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Let's see if any Rush fans on here can place the intro(starting at 1 second)to this track by Enchant. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYmXYmxYfMw


I can't, what is it?

The riff is lifted straight from Xanadu

Yep. Wink
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If you actually haven't heard Pendragon, you ought to check them out. I never got into them a whole lot because I found some of their music had cheesy lyrics and really don't like the "edgy"/teenagy songs. But they have some damn good songs, and their musicianship is amazing. Nick has some of the most emotional guitar solos in the business. He's friends with Andrew Latimer and you can hear influences of Camel in their music, especially in the new album. 
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