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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Here we go with the broad brushes again, and the name calling. I thought that political topics were not allowed anymore? If there ever was a political topic, then it's COVID.


actually, in the Non-Pol-Rel ban policy, PE did one major exception un the 20 years I've posted and it was for the Covid, which of course veered in both dangerous areas, but they moderated heavily (much fighting, as you could expect), despite allowing some leeway. The thread lasted +/- 1 year then was closed.


Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Well my point was valid--- vaccine deniers were just as herd-like as the people they accuse of being sheep.   Hardly a political attack, just the truth.

Relax.


good point, but they are stooooopid enough to realize that they were fleas & tiques on the sheep herd's wool  LOL


Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Which brings me to another fantastic thing about Progressiveears. According to the site's rules against politics discussion, the moderation team locks every thread that has some potential to turn into an ideological drama, in advance, before the shіt hits the fan. I think that's great cause it keeps the place chill and fun, like a casual chat with a bunch of fellow music nerd buddies. 💕

the only time they don't lock them is when Roger Waters is mentionned in the thread title LOL (almost invariably it will turn nasty)


Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

They banned many newly registered members for nothing, often just after a single post with polite text of a few sentences—maybe with a related embedded YT video—that are in line with the topic and cannot be classified as spam or trolling.
All of which were Svetonio's sockpuppets.
I remember Svetonio from PE. That was ages ago when they kicked him off PE, like back in 2016 or maybe 2017. So, check it out: in the part of my post that you didn’t quote, I mentioned the fact that once you sign up for PE, you can't just jump in and start posting right away; you have to chill for a few days while the mods check things out, which usually takes a couple of days. Moderators are checking your IP and everything. So yeah, a character banned several years ago couldn’t really be the reason for these days banning newbies who post one or two messages that don't break any rules. 
And just to clarify, Svetonio wasn't some spammer or troll at PE; maybe his only crime was not asking the forum if he was a jerk or not?


Hi Svettie, Wink

invariably you've created new profiles, like you do here, over at PE over the years (way more than 10). (something like 10 to15 times a year on each site). I understand they even kicked you out at Steve Hoffman's forum as well. You generally don't last longer than Wallace's incarnations, which is somewhat very puzzling, because he's the worst and you're second or third league in that dep't.TongueWink

In some way's it's too bad because your knowledge is interesting, but you keep breaking the rules that we've asked you don't (like carpet-bombing of BC and YT suggestions, for ex). You'd probably be accepted if you respected what's specifically asked of you (given previous experiences).

Not you're not a spammer and rarely a troll, but/and the PA/PE mods don't check instantly every newcommer,  like you claim. However, they do so when users start complaining about your different incarnations. That's why like here you last anywhere between 4 and 10 weeks on both sites.

If you'd been be cooler, you'd probably be a mainstay on both sites. Smile





Edited by Sean Trane - February 16 2025 at 01:40
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote So yeah, a character banned several years ago couldn’t really be the reason for these days banning newbies who post one or two messages that don't break any rules.
From what I've seen so far, none of those insta-banned newbies were genuine newbies, but rather Svetonio's ALT accounts trying to pass off as other people.
Hey, chill for a second. First off, you're not a mod on PE. Secondly, the PE mods have never really dropped any info on why they keep banning all these new users who just popped in and posted a couple of times. Hence, you can't be really sure even if those newbies are Svetonio's sockpuppets.

And for a number of reasons, the practice of banning people for nothing from PE is repulsive. At PE, one minute you spot someone's first or second post that totally vibes with the topic and follows the rules, you hit the reply button, and then just a few hours or days later, that user gets banned or the post disappears, but your reply is still hanging around. Maybe personally you like it, but it's not a normal forum look.
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I think Sean might be correct. Hosydi is acting very suspicious. You know the duck test, guys? It it looks like a Svettie, swims like a Svettie and quacks like Svettie...

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

They banned many newly registered members for nothing, often just after a single post with polite text of a few sentences—maybe with a related embedded YT video—that are in line with the topic and cannot be classified as spam or trolling.
All of which were Svetonio's sockpuppets.
I remember Svetonio from PE. That was ages ago when they kicked him off PE, like back in 2016 or maybe 2017. So, check it out: in the part of my post that you didn’t quote, I mentioned the fact that once you sign up for PE, you can't just jump in and start posting right away; you have to chill for a few days while the mods check things out, which usually takes a couple of days. Moderators are checking your IP and everything. So yeah, a character banned several years ago couldn’t really be the reason for these days banning newbies who post one or two messages that don't break any rules. 
And just to clarify, Svetonio wasn't some spammer or troll at PE; maybe his only crime was not asking the forum if he was a jerk or not?


Hi Svettie, Wink

invariably you've created new profiles, like you do here, over at PE over the years (way more than 10). (something like 10 to15 times a year on each site). I understand they even kicked you out at Steve Hoffman's forum as well. You generally don't last longer than Wallace's incarnations, which is somewhat very puzzling, because he's the worst and you're second or third league in that dep't.TongueWink

In some way's it's too bad because your knowledge is interesting, but you keep breaking the rules that we've asked you don't (like carpet-bombing of BC and YT suggestions, for ex). You'd probably be accepted if you respected what's specifically asked of you (given previous experiences).

Not you're not a spammer and rarely a troll, but/and the PA/PE mods don't check instantly every newcommer,  like you claim. However, they do so when users start complaining about your different incarnations. That's why like here you last anywhere between 4 and 10 weeks on both sites.

If you'd been be cooler, you'd probably be a mainstay on both sites. Smile



That's where I know you. Another PE member, who is not a mod there, however, scours the forum 24/7 and accuses all newcomers of being "Svetonio."
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Hosydi is acting very suspicious...
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Originally posted by rcarlberg rcarlberg wrote:

I got banned from PE in 2019 for calling out Poisoned Youth for his Covid misinformation.

To be honest, I haven't missed it.  It had turned into something of a cesspool, as unregulated social media tends to do.


come on Robert, you were a manstay and the most prolific poster and you still post there nowadays, despite your few temporary bans. You've returned a few times since the Covid thread.
I don't think you're the top poster anymore, but you're probably still in the top 5.

I suspect that you were heavily addicted to the place (PE) and you've realized at one point that you needed to be kicked out for a while, when you created an overtly political thread (still last year ?)

The "cesspool" is totally uncalled for. If you get anymosity there, it's most likely because of your activity about the R Sinclair deal. As I said, some key music-industry members over at PE are very uptight and over-protective about their livelyhood (which payable music).

As for the "unregulated" accusation, this comment is worthy of the current White House administration (if you can call it that).

Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote So yeah, a character banned several years ago couldn’t really be the reason for these days banning newbies who post one or two messages that don't break any rules.
From what I've seen so far, none of those insta-banned newbies were genuine newbies, but rather Svetonio's ALT accounts trying to pass off as other people.
Hey, chill for a second. First off, you're not a mod on PE. Secondly, the PE mods have never really dropped any info on why they keep banning all these new users who just popped in and posted a couple of times. Hence, you can't be really sure even if those newbies are Svetonio's sockpuppets.

And for a number of reasons, the practice of banning people for nothing from PE is repulsive. At PE, one minute you spot someone's first or second post that totally vibes with the topic and follows the rules, you hit the reply button, and then just a few hours or days later, that user gets banned or the post disappears, but your reply is still hanging around. Maybe personally you like it, but it's not a normal forum look.


as I said, Svettie, if you behaved (much) more, you'd probably be accepted, but it would take some patience, because you've got a 10 to 15 years history, and your uncontrolled temper still flares. 

Proof??? If you'd stayed clear of this thread, you'd not have been detected, like I just did this morning.
and creating another account to thank yourself doesn't help you (actually, it does for the mods)LOL


BTW, you've been banned here as much, if not more, than over at PE.

Again, behave and maybe one day....

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Edited by Sean Trane - February 16 2025 at 02:16
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:


If you can't name at least three Magma, Gong, Van der Graaf Generator and Area songs or albums you get banned.


How is Magma as a band [like what would you say is a good introductory point to them; please it not be prog-metal; I can only sustain one metal band and that is Black Sabbath ]?

Gong, I listened to four albums by them and liked only one.VdGG, I have listened to it all and love their first four albums, especially where they eschew guitar for screeching sax sounds instead.

Area, I am intermittently listening to. I think I have listened to 3 albums by them with the first one being quite great.

Someone mentioned SteveHoffman's forums and it is a decent place as well. I used to post there sporadically but the top threads are sometimes very cliched: like the very same Beatles or Kinks song by song discussion.


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote So yeah, a character banned several years ago couldn’t really be the reason for these days banning newbies who post one or two messages that don't break any rules.
From what I've seen so far, none of those insta-banned newbies were genuine newbies, but rather Svetonio's ALT accounts trying to pass off as other people.
Hey, chill for a second. First off, you're not a mod on PE. Secondly, the PE mods have never really dropped any info on why they keep banning all these new users who just popped in and posted a couple of times. Hence, you can't be really sure even if those newbies are Svetonio's sockpuppets.

And for a number of reasons, the practice of banning people for nothing from PE is repulsive. At PE, one minute you spot someone's first or second post that totally vibes with the topic and follows the rules, you hit the reply button, and then just a few hours or days later, that user gets banned or the post disappears, but your reply is still hanging around. Maybe personally you like it, but it's not a normal forum look.

as I said, Svettie, if you behaved (much) more, you'd probably be accepted, but it would take some patience, because you've got a 10 to 15 years history, and your uncontrolled temper still flares. 

Proof??? If you'd stayed clear of this thread, you'd not have been detected, like I just did this morning.
and creating another account to thank yourself doesn't help you (actually, it does for the mods)LOL


BTW, you've been banned here as much, if not more, than over at PE.

Again, behave and maybe one day....
Why are you so convinced that Svetonio—like, if you really believe that every newbie on PE and PA is actually that dude hiding behind a bunch of different usernames—actually wanted someone like you to allow him back as 'Svetonio' on the forum? Perhaps the ghastly Svetty, if he's really creeping on you all the time, totally enjoys messing with you by playing around with his VPN app and a variety of different usernames.

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


I understand they even kicked you out at Steve Hoffman's forum as well.
OMG! That is what I call a scandal! Was he spamming the Cliff Richard appreciation thread, or was he trolling those lovely people on the Fab Four general discussion?!
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Will the real Svetonio please stand up so we can get a clear shot at you?!
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I always thought both PE and PA were quite similar. I try not to get involved in the personal interactions of members. especially call out threads. Maybe the mood is a bit lighter at PE. Anger issues and call-outs tend to go awry at any forum.
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A call out is when you bring negative attention and comment about another member (by name) because you have a personal problem with them. And then a thread results. I’d list an example but then I would be making a callout thread. Lol

The whole svetonio thing has become almost comical and cliche at this point. The boogie man lives!

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^ Well my point was valid--- vaccine deniers were just as herd-like as the people they accuse of being sheep.   Hardly a political attack, just the truth.

Relax.


Yes, David, your point was perfectly valid, and, yes, they were. I might though, in my defence, point out that I was not a vaccine denier.

I didn't take your comments as a political attack, and most certainly didn't take any offence.
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Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Why are you so convinced that Svetonio—like, if you really believe that every newbie on PE and PA is actually that dude hiding behind a bunch of different usernames—actually wanted someone like you to allow him back as 'Svetonio' on the forum? Perhaps the ghastly Svetty, if he's really creeping on you all the time, totally enjoys messing with you by playing around with his VPN app and a variety of different usernames.


LOLLOLLOLClapClapClap

we (hardly me alone) observe a few days once you are spotted , then we wait until you promote ex-yugo bands (you never fail to)... But it's generally your texts, your syntax, your tone that give you away.
BTW, your different locations declared always cracks us up.LOL

And in this case, taking his defence is not the smartest thing to do. We hadn't spotted this incarnation before.

But we are impressed by your tenacity to keep coming back to haunt both sites... even if your VPN makes it easy.


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Edited by Sean Trane - February 16 2025 at 16:20
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Hosydi Hosydi wrote:

Why are you so convinced that Svetonio—like, if you really believe that every newbie on PE and PA is actually that dude hiding behind a bunch of different usernames—actually wanted someone like you to allow him back as 'Svetonio' on the forum? Perhaps the ghastly Svetty, if he's really creeping on you all the time, totally enjoys messing with you by playing around with his VPN app and a variety of different usernames.


LOLLOLLOLClapClapClap

we (hardly me alone) observe a few days once you are spotted , then we wait until you promote ex-yugo bands (you never fail to)... But it's generally your texts, your syntax, your tone that give you away.
BTW, your different locations declared always cracks us up.LOL

And in this case, taking his defence is not the smartest thing to do. We hadn't spotted this incarnation before.

But we are impressed by your tenacity to keep coming back to haunt both sites... even if your VPN makes it easy.
"Promoting yugo-bands"? Really? Don't tell me that you count as "promoting" a few YouTube videos on different threads. Okay, I see. Anyone who posts a video by an "ex-yugo-band" is Svetonio, mmmm…

But, as far as I know, your go-to forum dude Svetonio is "promoting" bands from everywhere, including the "Heart of Europe." No cap, he's been doing his thing on another forum for more than a decade now.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Which brings me to another fantastic thing about Progressiveears. According to the site's rules against politics discussion, the moderation team locks every thread that has some potential to turn into an ideological drama, in advance, before the shіt hits the fan. I think that's great cause it keeps the place chill and fun, like a casual chat with a bunch of fellow music nerd buddies. 💕

This is not a fantastic thing but more like being treated like children if you ask me. If PE is so great then why bother being here at all and just stay over there? My guess is that it's just a little boring and Meh.

It does get a bit edgy round here for sure but that is because people are not perfect. What you have described is a sci-fi version of hell LOL
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