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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38083 |
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And 2000-2009:
- Canterbury: Robert Wyatt - Cuckooland (2003) - Crossover Prog: Radiohead - Kid A (2000) - Eclectic Prog: Willam D. Drake - Briny Hooves (2007) - Experimental/Post Metal: Boris - Flood (2000) - Heavy Prog: Maxwell's Demon – Prometheus (2001) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Saturnia - Muzak (2006) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Shibusashirazu - Shibuboshi (2004) - Krautrock: Electric Orange – Platte (2003) - Neo-Prog: Marc Ceccotti - Sometimes Around Saturn (2008) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven (2000) - Prog Folk: North Sea Radio Orchestra - North Sea Radio Orchestra (2006) - Progressive Electronic: Coil - The Ape of Naples (2005) - Progressive Metal: Diablo Swing Orchestra - Sing-Along Songs for the Damned & Delirious (2009) - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Ghost - Hypnotic Underworld (2004) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Guapo - Black Oni (2005) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Fabio Frizzi - Sette note in nero (with Bixio and Tempera) (archival, released 2006) - Symphonic Prog: Kotebel - Omphalos (2006) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: unsure - Zeuhl: Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré (2009) - Various Genres/Artists: Various Artists - Hamtaï! Hommage à la musique de Christian Vander (2007) - Prog Related: The Flaming Lips - Embryonic (2009) - Proto-Prog: ? Edited by Logan - December 24 2024 at 17:48 |
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And a 1990's one.
- Canterbury: Robert Wyatt - Shleep (1997) - Crossover Prog: Stereolab - Dots and Loops (1997) - Eclectic Prog: Il Berlione - Il Berlione (1992) - Experimental/Post Metal: Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood (1996) - Heavy Prog: Morte Macabre - Symphonic Holocaust (1998) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: ? - Jazz Rock/Fusion: One Shot - One Shot (1999) - Krautrock: Holger Czukay - Moving Pictures (1993) - Neo-Prog: ? - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind (1996) - Prog Folk: Dead Can Dance - Into The Labyrinth (1993) - Progressive Electronic: Coil - Musick to Play in the Dark (1999) - Progressive Metal: ? - Psychedelic/Space Rock: The Legendary Pink Dots - The Crushed Velvet Apocalypse (1990) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Cardiacs - Sing to God (1996) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: ? - Symphonic Prog: Änglagård - Hybris (1992) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Voivod - The Outer Limits (1993) - Zeuhl: Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I (1994) - Various Genres/Artists: ? - Prog Related: Nature and Organisation - Beauty Reaps the Blood of Solitude (1994) - Proto-Prog: ? |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38083 |
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These are some preferred albums taken from PA's categories from the 1980s. It's not about whether the album is suitable to the category, but where it is included in PA. PA has an "all albums by an act are found under one category" limitation.
- Canterbury: Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo Tutti I Suoi Problemi (1980) - Crossover Prog: Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love (1985) - Eclectic Prog: The Penguin Cafe Orchestra - The Penguin Cafe Orchestra (1981) - Experimental/Post Metal: ? - Heavy Prog: Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was ... Death (1989) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Codona - Codona 3 (1983) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement (1980) - Krautrock: Holger Czukay (w/ Jah Wobble & Jaki Liebezeit) - Full Circle (1982) - Neo-Prog: Twelfth Night - Fact and Fiction (1982) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Swans - Children Of God (1987) - Prog Folk: Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal (1985) - Progressive Electronic: Zanov - In Course of Time (1982) - Progressive Metal: ? - Psychedelic/Space Rock: The Legendary Pink Dots - The Golden Age (1989) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Art Zoyd - Le mariage du ciel et de l'enfer (1985) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Fabio Frizzi - L'aldilà (1981) - Symphonic Prog: Bacamarte - Depois do Fim (released 1983, recorded 1979) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Voivod - Nothingface (1989) - Zeuhl: Eskaton - 4 visions (1981) - Various Genres/Artists: ? - Prog Related: Terry Riley - Shri Camel (1980) - Proto-Prog: The Who - It's Hard (1982) |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38083 |
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And the 70s...
- Canterbury: Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom (1974) - Crossover Prog: The Alan Parsons Project - I Robot (1977) - Eclectic Prog: Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts (1971) - Experimental/Post Metal: n/a - Heavy Prog: Black Widow - Sacrifice (1970) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Andre Fertier's Clivage - Mixtus Orbis (1978) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Herbie Hancock - Crossings (1972) - Krautrock: Brave New World - Impressions on Reading Aldous Huxley (1972) - Neo-Prog: ? - Post-Rock/Math Rock: n/a - Prog Folk: Spirogyra - Bells, Boots And Shambles (1973) - Progressive Electronic: Franco Leprino - Integrati... Disintegrati (1977) - Progressive Metal: n/a - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Meddle (1971) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan / Dou no Kenbai (1976) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries (1973) - Symphonic Prog: Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children (1971) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: n/a - Zeuhl: Magma - Kobaïa (1970) - Various Genres/Artists: Jesus Christ Superstar (1970) - Prog Related: David Bowie - Hunky Dory (1971) - Proto-Prog: The Who - Quadrophenia (1973) By the way, while I have tried to acknowledge people's posts thus far, I am going to be off-site for some time. Thanks for the posts and lists. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. Edited by Logan - December 24 2024 at 20:16 |
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2020- (some categories left blank where I have nothing)
Canterbury: Zopp - Dominion Crossover: Weather Systems - Ocean Without A Shore Eclectic Prog: Motopyscho - Ancient Astronauts Experimental/Post Metal: A Swarm Of The Sun - An Empire Heavy Prog: Crown Lands - Fearless Indo Prog/Raga Prog: Jazz Rock/Fusion: Krokofant - Fifth Krautrock: Neo Prog: Arena - The Theory Of Molecular Inheritance Post Rock/Math Rock: Versa - A Voyage A Destination Part 2 Prog Folk: Lumsk - Fremmede Toner Progressive Electronic: Zombi - Direct Inject Progressive Meral: Kingcrow - Hopium Psychedelic/Space Rock: Agusa - Prima Materia RIO/Avant Prog: Black Midi - Calvacade or Hellfire (no preference) RPI: Logos - Sadako e le mill gru di carta Symphonic Prog: Lars Fredrick Froislie - Fire Foretellinger Tech Extreme Metal: Animals As Leaders - Parrhesia Various Genres: Zeuhl: Proto Prog: Deep Purple - Whoosh! Prog Related: Jon Anderson - Jon Anderson & The Band Geeks: True |
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Symphonic Prog: Yes The Yes Album Eclectic Prog : King Crimson Lizard Rock Progressivo Italiano: PFM Per un amico Canterbury Scene: Soft Machine Volume Two RIO/Avant Prog: Henry Cow Western Culture Zeuhl: Magma Attahk Prog Folk: Jethro Tull Songs from the Wood Neo Prog: Marillion Script for a Jester's Tear Heavy Prog: Uriah Heep The Magician's Birthday Jazz-Rock/Fusion: RTF Where Have I Known You Before Crossover Prog: Roxy Music s/t Psychedelic/Space Rock: Hawkwind Warrior on the Edge of Time Prog Related: Vangelis Earth Proto Prog: Deep Purple Burn Krautrock: Can Landed Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze Cyborg Progressive Metal: Dream Theater The Astonishing Experimental/Post Metal: Astrohenge s/t Technical/Extreme Metal: The Haarp Machine Disclosure Post Rock/Math Rock: Colaris Renawal Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Okko Bekker Sitar & Electronics
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44698 |
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The only way I can do this is by taking it one year and one nation at a time, so here goes......
Prog Britannia: 1967 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'll have a few more sub-genres of prog to add in later years.
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Prog Britannia: 1968
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8631 |
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Some things never change. First attempt to reply vanished into the ether behind a access denied error. Fortunately a partial copy was in the clipboard, so I'll fill the remainder and try again.
These are today's picks. Probably a little different tomorrow. Many of these subs have very broad scopes. RIO is like ordering Indian food, there are very distinct spice levels to be aware of. For Electronic, the album I chose is my favorite in the sub, but arguably not an electronic album. I dislike 99.9% of Neo-Prog. Fortunately, the album I chose is decidedly not Neo-Prog. - Canterbury Scene: Supersister - Present From Nancy (1970) - Crossover Prog: Moody Blues - Days of Future Past (1967) - Eclectic Prog: Squintaloo - Über Bord!(2017) - Experimental/Post Metal: Virus - Carheart (2003) - Heavy Prog: Laundry - Blacktongue (1994) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: The only one I and probably 90% of everyone else actually ever heard. - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Panzerballett - Star Stücke (2008) - Krautrock: Amon DüülII - Yeti (1970) - Neo-Prog: Rivendell - Sisyfos (2018) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: The Physics House Band - The Incident At 3rd (2021) - Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - A Passion Play (1973) - Progressive Electronic: Heldon - Stand By(1979) - Progressive Metal: Pain ofSalvation - Be [Live] (2009) - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Slift - Ilion (2024) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Nebelnest - Nova Express (2002) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973) - Symphonic Prog: Yes - Yessongs (1973) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Exivious - Exivious (2009) - Zeuhl: Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré (2009) - Prog Related: Black Sabbath - Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath (1973) - Proto-Prog: The Who - Tommy (1973) |
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I kind of understand this comment if Neo Prog was just IQ, Arena or Marillion but what about Frost*, Galahad or even the recent album by Norwegian band Infringement that moves away from what I commonly think of as Neo Prog (ie prog with a defined musical structure that is heavily influenced by Genesis)?
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^I've heard Frost and Galahad which didn't grab me. Not familiar with the other. When it gets right down to it, I've ended up with a ton of music in my collection that I like and have had little time to revisit during the time I was evaluating for the site. So new stuff has really taken a back seat to reacquaint myself with my existing collection. I've listened/purchased maybe 10 new albums this year, only one artist I was not already aware of. There are certainly other Neo selections out there that would check all the boxes, but I'm at the saturation stage.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29909 |
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^ okay that's fine, wasn't trying to be critical but I wondered how broad your experience of 'Neo Prog' was. Personally I believe this sub genre on PA should be limited to 80's bands only. That was when the term was in common usage. It became redundant very quickly. Now we have artists in this sub genre that have little to do with it at all. For instance I've no idea why Infringement would even be in there. This is just excellent progressive rock music from Norway and that's all. If I had my way I would now close the 'Neo' sub set in terms of adding any new bands as it's seems a totally pointless exercise (admittedly this argument belongs on the improving the site forum and not here so I'm not pushing it but just mention it in reference to your comment which may be throwing a lot of stuff under the bus needlessly)
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If I'm going to do this it has to be five lists minimum, and even that, limiting it to a top five will leave out some favourites, especially in Jazz. So I may cheat and show 2 Jazz titles. At least that will make me feel somewhat better about doing this.
I've just never had set in stone favourites from these sub-genres except for Dark Side Of The Moon and Permanent Waves. With the rest it's a pool of 5 to 15 or so, and it depends on my mood as to what I feel is the best that day. Love the lists, hope they keep on coming. I'm limiting it to 18 sub genres. |
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Prog Britannia: 1969
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You are not completely wrong. maybe the neo-team thought neo-prog is the best fit for Infringement. It also happens that bands/artist fall through the cracks because they don't fit anywhere or they get in evaluation hell and takes a really long time to be cleared and added. I also think some bands are in the wrong subgenre and some that would not even be added if they were evaluated nowadays. But that's another story.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29909 |
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To be fair I did go back and listen to Infringement's debut album (they have 3 in total) after I posted my comment and that does fit more in the neo prog category than the recent album. They are a band that has evolved, but nevertheless many will not listen to 'neo prog' and Jem Godfrey recently even stated in a yt interview with Andy Edwards that describing bands as 'neo prog' was like putting them in the trash. He has a point as it does seem a term that is diversive and seems reserved for bands that couldn't (or didn't want to) play the full blown classic style so simplified it for their own purposes to be more accessible to the post punk crowd (Post rock also did this but in a much more art based way). Also a lot of the time I don't hear that much difference between 'Crossover' and 'Neo' bands. They could easily be merged now.
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I might add that Robin Armstrong has issued an instruction ahead of the new Cosmograf album to reviewers for them NOT to describe the music as “neo prog”. I suggested getting rid of this and other sub-genres ages ago, and got myself in a whole heap of trouble here, but I have not changed my mind. I believe that neo, crossover (something which exists merely in the head of PA collabs) and eclectic should be replaced by going back to an art rock category.
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I didn't know "neo-prog" as a term was so divisive. Multiple tags would solve a lot of problems. Frost* is one of the bands in the wrong category, I have never understood why they are under 'neo-prog" on PA, when (IMO obviously) they should be crossover.
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Prog Britannia: 1970
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A Live list
Canterbury Scene: Caravan - Live At The Fairfield Halls 1974 Crossover Prog: Suretramp - Paris Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - The Great Deceiver Heavy Prog: Rush - Exit Stage Left Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Jazz Rock/Fusion: One Shot - Live In Tokyo Krautrock: CAN - Stuttgart 75 Post Rock/Math Rock: Black Country New Road - Live At Bush Hall Prog Folk: The Decemberists - Live Home Library Prog Metal: Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Psychedelic/Space Rock: Hawkwind - Space Ritual RIO/Avant-Prog: Henry Cow - Concerts Rock Progressivo Italiano: Symphonic Prog: Camel - A Live Record Tech/Extreme Metal: Zeuhl: Magma - Trilogie Theusz Hamtaahk Prog Related: 801 - Live Proto-Prog: Deep Purple - Made In Japan Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - December 28 2024 at 17:25 |
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