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Floydoid
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This looks like typical troll type behaviour - a newly registered account makes one provocative post to get everyone arguing, only for the OP never to return to it.
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verslibre
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Have we arrived at a consensus?
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Psychedelic Paul
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Yes, it does seem distinctly odd that Jeeglefun joined PA at 18:21 on December 21st and his last visit was just two minutes later at 18:23.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Not to be mean but a lot of so called prog isn't exactly progressive. A case in point would be neo-prog. Most (if not all of it) does not push boundaries or do anything truly progressive. It is mostly a rehash of older prog with a more contemporary (and even stripped down) element. Rush in the 70s and 80s weren't really doing anything that hadn't been done before. They were influenced by KC, Yes and Genesis but with a heavier element. So yeah Rush were prog but were they progressive in the literal sense of the word? Not so much imo.
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verslibre
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There's progressive in the literal sense of the word and there's capital "P" Prog, which is what most of the bands we listen to fall under.
Maybe it should be called "art rock," but I don't think that's going to catch on now. |
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Logan
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I'd rather put most of what I listen to under the small p (adjective label) than the big P (noun/genre) label. I'm not a big fan of tons of generic/ stereotypical Prog. More so, I would put music I like under the art label, however.
Aside from having Prog genre albums, I think Rush's music progressed from album to album in that it changed and adapted with the times. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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That's true to a great degree even though they were doing proggy prog in the late 70s and early 80s when that was no longer fashionable. Signals and GUP were both very new wave influenced but 19993's Counterparts was more hard rock than it was grunge. They never really took the grunge route. After that more hard rock and semi-metal (kind of like their debut but more modern sounding).
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David_D
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Actually, "progressive" is just a word which can be and has been used in many different ways/meanings. |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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verslibre
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Right, David, but remember, we're talking about music — specifically the music discussed and archived on this site. Context is everything. |
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The Dark Elf
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They were "prog-rock" at one point, but coming after most of the major pioneer acts of the late 60s/early 70s, I wouldn't say they were "progressive".
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David_D
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Right, and to me in this context, "progressive" is also just a part of the genre name "Progressive Rock". |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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verslibre
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Which takes us full circle to progressive (adj., relating to or characterized by interest in new ideas) and capital "P" you/know/what. |
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David_D
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and we could continue because "Actually, "progressive" is just a word which can be and has been......" |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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