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moshkito
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Hi, Again ... nice addon list. And tough all the way ... I really am not a good one for choosing A over B and vice versa ... specially as I like them both equally. I tend to not send my thoughts and feelings into the area of a dichotomy, in the arts, as some of the things are so different and have touches that really show its talent and ability. Krautrock: Faust - So Far (1972) I remember getting this album, my first FAUST album, and the only thing I could take from it, was the very obvious goofing around with the sounds on a synth and on tape .. Guy Guden had done a lot of studio crazy stuff which he used in his own shows on stage (wrote and directed!) which kinda took the different, weird touch out of it all and brought it into the reality ... however, sound effect fooling around with starts, and BELONGS to, Spike Milligan and The Goons ... but I'm not sure many of us can get into the sound effects used at the time, on radio, to make a story come alive ... no one has EVER done it better than The Goons and later PDQ Bach that did it live on stage, unlike the studio heavy FAUST thing. There are some things in it that are recognizable, if you have an ear tuned to PDQ Bach (folks don't even realize that Peter Schikele is by very far one of the most progressive of folks, mainly because it is comedy ... and he does it live with local musicians) ... but many sound effects used there are heard with FAUST ... and the bicycle wheel, the tube in the air, and many of these sounds were all of a sudden in FAUST's album, different, and not as acoustic, of course. While, FAUST's use, for me, was more on the fun side of things, PDQ included it in a lot of his music and the far out interpretations of classical music that ... progressive folks don't usually seem to enjoy ... like humor can not be here at all ... FAUST was fun, but not very "artistic" in my book. And in that big K-rock special, seeing one of the guys just hitting a cement drum to get the sound as it turned ... kinda showed, right there, what FAUST was about right from the start. Psychedelic/Space Rock: Far East Family Band - Parallel World (1976) I got this, and we played it on Space Pirate Radio, just like we did a lot of Japanese things in those days, mainly because it was produced by Klaus Schulze ... and while a nice listen, it was OK in my book ... I never thought of it as Psychedelic since a lot of the touches in it were eastern music bits and pieces, to make it more "universal" and less westernized, and it was a good listen, but ... honestly? ... produced by KS, I thought that this was going to be a real TRIP ... and in many ways, it wasn't. Better considered as Space Rock, I suppose, but definitely not psychedelic at all ... unless we think of golks being ripped and stoned as such ... which is crazy ... by that time, even KS was clean and he had stated to his fan club that it interfered with his ability to control the music when played live and he would not remember which/what was being used and worked on. Symphonic Prog: Ange - Au-delŕ du délire (1974) If I had to choose one album that is for me, and truly special, this is the one ... and this band, all the way to TOME VI (their 6th album) ... was fantastic and had all the wonderful features of a true actor singing it ... not (like Meatloaf said was an actor that could sing!!!) ... and the emotions and touches the band worked on right from the start were incredible and continued for at least 15 to 20 more years. The version of these recently done by the brother that was the main keyboard player (not the singer) ... is still really good, but it's really hard to let go of that earlier touch ... and I wish someone would remix and remaster that ... though I seriously doubt they can improve anything ... the touches that we think someone would come up with, were already there by the beauty of the work and its interpretation, and I don't think that mechanics in the studio can improve the real thing! Zeuhl: Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I (1994) Of all the bands in the 1999 Festival in SF, this band, and Buckethead, were the two that didn't do it for me ... I'm not sure why, and have to go back and listen to their material in the 1990's to get a better idea, but it was actually a nice performance, if not way too much guitar centered, when in terms of Zeuhl and its work, it is less on an instrument and more on the totality of the work ... something is amiss here, that I need to revisit one day. I never thought of it as Zeuhl on that day, as I was too busy being the photographer for the event.
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Logan
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^ Just to note that I'm just choosing these based on what category they are in and not judging whether I think they fit the category well, and asking the same of others in their lists of favourites. That above is my fifth list in this topic, while avoiding repeating acts in my lists. Anyone can make as many lists as they like. Bondage Fruit is more Zeuhl flavoured I would say, and how much depends on the track and album. Some of it is very Zeuhl to my ear. I'm happy with it in Zeuhl and there are those Zeuhlish rhythms. It's actually a pretty eclectic band with jazz, folk and world music, avant prog, from gentle to not.... Can be beautiful. I do suggest listening to their debut. I find it to be a wonderful album. They released an album this year, by the way.
I would place that album in Zeuhl, by the way. With Far East Family Band, I agree it's more on the Space Rock side of the Psych & Space category at PA than Psych. I find real beauty in the album. I just adore this, for instance: What has been said of my tastes commonly is that I often gravitate towards atmospheric music. I also often do like groove... Edited by Logan - December 17 2024 at 09:33 |
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^kokoro =japanese for 'heart '
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Logan
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^ I know. I taught English in Japan and met my wife there. Anyway, maybe that's part of why "Kokoro" captured my heart. I left a big piece of my heart in Japan, some in Belgium too.
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Mirakaze
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Ooh this is a fun idea
- Canterbury Scene: National Health - National Health (1977) - Crossover Prog: Tony Banks - A Curious Feeling (1979) - Eclectic Prog: Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory (1974) - Experimental/Post Metal: Uboa - The Origin Of My Depression (2019) - Heavy Prog: The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute (2005) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band (1970) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior (1976) - Krautrock: Can - Tago Mago (1971) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Three Trapped Tigers - Silent Earthling (2016) - Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick (1972) - Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Zeit (1972) - Progressive Metal: Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Experiment (1998) - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Kairon;IRSE! - Polysomn (2020) - RIO/Avant-Prog: The Mothers Of Invention - Uncle Meat (1969) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Area - Maledetti (Maudits) (1976) - Symphonic Prog: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (1973) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Mastodon - Crack The Skye (2009) - Zeuhl: Magma - Kobaďa (1970) - Prog Related: David Bowie - Low (1977) - Proto-Prog: The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) Edited by Mirakaze - December 17 2024 at 12:23 |
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Canterbury: Gong - You
Crossover: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells Eclectic: Alquin - The Mountain Queen Experimental / Post Metal: Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second Heavy: Anekdoten - Until all the Ghosts are Gone Indo / Raga: N/A JR/F: Dean Watson - Track of Days Kraut: N/A Neo: Nine Stones Close - Leaves Post/Math: Swans - The Beggar Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze - Mirage Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Metropolis part II - Scenes from a Memory Psych / Space: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here RIO / Avant: Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning RPI: Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries Symphonic: Yes - Close to the Edge Tech / Extreme: Openth - Pale Communion Zeuhl: Magma - Köhntarkösz Prog Related: John Cale - Music for a New Society Proto: The Who - Who's Next |
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Logan
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^^ Thanks Mira. It's fun for me to share and see people lists.
From your list I especially dig National Health, The Origin of My Depression, Third Ear Band, Tago Mago, Zeit, Maledetti, Kobaďa, Low and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Anfd have really liked The Power and the Glory, Frances The Mute, and Uncle Meat too. I should give that Mastodon another spin sometime. I used to like it, then I didn't, so much depends on mood. A Uboa album would have been my first pick for Experimental/Post Metal. I knew she'd been added a while ago but I had not guessed that category. Impossible Light is one of my top albums of this year. And I'm a fan of otay:onii (love her album Míng Míng) who features on the album. Rather wish we had a category dedicated to certain experimental industrial, noise, darkwave and ambient forms (but am not really pushing for it). :) ^ And thanks someone_else (will edit in my faves of your list later). EDIT: From your list (in order of mention), I adore Gong's You, Swans' The Beggar, Klaus Schulze's Mirage, Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here, Henry Cow's In Praise of Learning, Franco Battiato's Sulle Corde di Aries and Magma's Köhntarkösz. Really like Tubular Bells, part the Second, Until the Geese Are Gone, Thick as a Brick and Who's Next. had to remind myself of the Alquin album and loving it! I really like various John Cale albums and should check that one. Edited by Logan - December 18 2024 at 08:01 |
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jamesbaldwin
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1) Canterbury: R. Wyatt - Rock Bottom
2) Crossover: Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden 3) Eclectic: VdGG From H to He (or Pawn Hearts?) 4) Italiano: Area - Arbeit Macht Frei 5) RIO: Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning ----- to be continued
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A Crimson Mellotron
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Nice thread idea. Let me give it a try: Canterbury Scene: Soft Machine - Third Crossover Prog: Steven Wilson - Hand. Cannot. Erase. Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - Larks' Tongues In Aspic Experimental/Post Metal: OSI - Blood Heavy Prog: Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: N/A Jazz Rock/Fusion: Steely Dan - Aja Krautrock: Can - Ege Bamyasi Neo-Prog: Frost* - Milliontown Post Rock/Math rock: Sigur Rós - Ágćtis Byrjun Prog Folk: Comus - First Utterance Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Zeit Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma RIO/Avant-Prog: The Mothers of Invention - Freak Out! Rock Progressivo Italiano: Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Symphonic Prog: Yes - Relayer Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Opeth - Ghost Reveries Zeuhl: Magma - Mekanďk Destruktďw Kommandöh *Prog Related: Led Zeppelin - IV *Proto-Prog: Deep Purple - Fireball
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Lewian
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Not necessarily my first choice from each, but I love them all:
Canterbury: National Health - s/t Crossover: Kate Bush - The Dreaming Eclectic: King Crimson - Discipline Experimenta/Post Metal : Kong - Phlegm Heavy Prog: Porcupine Tree - Deadwing Indo/Raga: I Hardly know anything Jazz Rock/Fusion: Association P.C. - Erna Morena Krautrock: Holger Czukay - Movies Neoprog: IQ - The Wake Post Rock/Math Rock: Tarentel - From Bone to Satellite Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Heavy Horses Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Awake (this genre is critically thin in my collection) Psychedelic/Space: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma RIO/Avant: Art Zoyd - Berlin RPI: Luciano Cilio - Dialoghi del Presente Symphonic: Genesis - Live Tech/Extreme: Opeth - Heritage (of course there's not much Tech/Extreme about this) Zeuhl: Jannick Top - Infernal Machina Various genres/artists: Leader of the Starry Skies - A Tribute to Tim Smith, Songbook 1 Prog Related: Irmin Schmidt & Kumo - Axolotl Eyes Proto Prog: The Beatles - Revolver Edit: Added Various artists entry
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Meltdowner
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For my list I selected albums I really like that are less obvious or that I've been listening more recently. The heavy subgenres are particularly soft. - Canterbury Scene: Steve Hillage - Rainbow Dome Musick (1979)
- Crossover Prog: Sally Oldfield - Water Bearer (1978) - Eclectic Prog: Quarteto 1111 - Onde Quando Como Porquę Cantamos Pessoas Vivas (1975) - Heavy Prog: Porcupine Tree - Up The Downstair (1993) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: elephant9 - Arrival of the New Elders (2021) - Krautrock: Siinai - Supermarket (2014) - Neo-Prog: Arena - The Unquiet Sky (2015) - Prog Folk: Banda do Casaco - Hoje Há Conquilhas Amanhă Năo Sabemos (1977) - Progressive Electronic: Ulrich Schnauss & Jonas Munk - Passage (2017) - Progressive Metal: Riverside - Love, Fear and the Time Machine (2015) - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Moura - Axexan, Espreitan (2022) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Present - Le Poison Qui Rend Fou (1985) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: La Coscienza di Zeno - La Notte Anche di Giorno (2015) - Symphonic Prog: Terpandre - Terpandre (1981) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Mastodon - Crack The Skye (2009) - Zeuhl: Weidorje - Weidorje (1978) - Prog Related: Vangelis - Spiral (1977) - Proto-Prog: The Doors - The Soft Parade (1969) |
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Thanks so much for all of the lists. I know it can be a real challenge and take some time, so the effort is very much appreciated. More already have tried this than I was expecting. I find it interesting to see the lists, compare lists, and like to see what I know and like and don't know from the lists. This can give me rather broader sense of some of the tastes and interests in our community/ specific members.
I'll mention what i like from each list. Lorenzo's, great to see you around again!, is to be continued (a strategy I was thinking of suggesting for some), but I truly love every album mentioned in his list thus far. With Nikola's list, I particulary love Third, Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Ege Bamyasi, Ágćtis Byrjun, First Utterance, Zeit, Ummagumma, Freak Out!, Zarathustra, and Mekanďk Destruktďw Kommandöh. Really like Relayer, and Aja is very good... With Christian's list, I love The National, The Dreaming (you turned me more onto that album and now it is one of my very favourite albums), Holger Czukay - Movies (such a wonderful album, really, really love it), Rubycon, Ummagumma, Berlin and revolver. And I like Phlegm, Heavy Horses and Infernal Machina a lot. I should listen that Association PC live as I like the band a lot. I don't know Tarentel or Cilio at all that I can recall. Will try to remember to remedy that at some time. With Samuel's list: I know we share a lot of musical loves in common, and so interesting to see as many album names I am unfamiliar with (means more for me to check out). :) I do love Le Poison Qui Rend Fou, Weidorje , Spiral and The Soft Parade. I know the Mastodon quite well and should listen again. Again thanks all, and I hope more will try this challenge. It's "a favoured album", it doesn't need to be one's favourite. I know lots of us would know and love huge amounts of albums from our favoured categories. |
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My Ideal List (just Seventies)
(in order of my preference) In the Court of... King Crimson - honorary founder 1) VdGG - From H to He 2) R. Wyatt - Rock Bottom 3) Area - Arbeit (as jazz-rock fusion) ----- 4) Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning 5) Renaissance . Scheherazade 6) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 7) Family - Music in a Doll's House (as proto-prog) 8) Magma - Mekanik 9) Roxy Music - I 10) Banco - I 11) Comus - First Utterance 12) Third Ear Band 13) Faust - I 14) Quatermass - I 15) Shawn Phillips - Second contribution 16) Kraftwerk - Autobahn 17) Jesus Christ Superstar (4 categories are missing in the Seventies) |
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^ Thanks Lorenzo, I have liked all of those albums (well, I know the Shawn Phillips less than the other albums). While I followed what's in PA's categories for my lists regardless of how well I think it fits there, I will say that I think of Area as more JR/F and Avant Prog than an RPI category act (RPI is kind of a strange category in various ways... rather too eclectic perhaps, and unlike Krautrock with finding bands outside Germany and Canterbury, finding bands outside Canterbury, all in that category are from Italy so it seems less of styles, influence, or specific movements...). I think it used to be in JRF? I could be wrong. And the two Family albums I have I think of as on the Proto-Prog side. Fine with the band in Eclectic as I do think of those as Prog Art Rock too with Psych qualities.
EDIT, on a related note: Some here have said that Proto-Prog bands are not Prog (and that Prog Related bands are not Prog) but to me it depends on the album, song, and there is no distinct dividing line between Prog, non-Prog, embryonic Prog and full-fledged Prog. And sometimes it just comes down to the individuals interpretation and parameters. How some PA members defined the band category-wise does not define the band let alone the individual albums by a band, and of course we can't use multi-tags or deal with the albums individually. But this edit digresses.... Edited by Logan - December 18 2024 at 13:04 |
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Been meaning to respond to this thread for a few days now. Also,
to limit myself a bit, I’ll name only albums from the 21st century. It also
avoids repeating some of the bigger names but made a couple of categories
difficult for me. It seems I mainly listen to RPI and Krautrock from the 70s.
I had difficulty selecting albums. With Krautrock, it’s funny because I feel
like I hear a lot of influence in a fair number of current bands that I listen
to. And I have nothing for Indo-Prog/Raga Rock. There’s not much
to begin with and I don’t know how much there is from the 21st century. Now in alphabetical subgenre order. Canterbury Scene: De Lorians – De Lorians (2019) Crossover Prog: Bent Knee – Shiney Eyed Babies (2014) Eclectic Prog: Birds and Buildings – Bantam to Behemoth
(2008) Experimental/Post Metal: Tool – Lateralus (2001) Heavy Prog: Porcupine Tree – In Absentia (2002) Jazz Rock/Fusion: Art Metal – Vyakhyan-Kar (2007) Krautrock: Hedersleben – The Fall of Chronopolis (2015) Neo-Prog: IQ – Frequency (2009) Post Rock/Math Rock: Godspeed You! Black Emperor – Lift Your
Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven (2000) Prog Folk: North Sea Radio Orchestra – I A Moon (2011) Progressive Electronic: Radio Massacre International –
Emissaries (2005) Progressive Metal: Riverside – Anno Domini High Definition (2009) Psychedelic/Space Rock: 35007 – Liquid (2002) RIO/Avant-Prog: Far Corner – Risk (2018) Rock Progressivo Italiano: Unreal City – Il Paese del
Tramonto (2015) Symphonic Prog: Discipline – To Shatter All Accord (2011) Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Cynic – Traced in Air (2008) |
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^ I didn't realise that Far Corner - Risk was a RIO/Avant-Prog album otherwise I would have included it on my list.
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^ Far Corner's Risk is very good. Far Corner's Endangered was one of my fave albums in the 2007 Collab Album of the Year choices.
^^ Thanks for the list, George; much appreciated. I like your approach. Good way to narrow things down and I do like see the modern era getting attention. The two particular desert island disks for me from your list are Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven and I a Moon (those are favourites amongst my favourite albums) but I also really like the Zwoyld, Bent Knee and Far Corner. De Lorians was one of my favourites of its year (but kind of forgotten it now). Oh, and almost missed mentioning it carelessly, Bantam to Behemoth is a great album. Edited by Logan - December 19 2024 at 09:17 |
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Far Corner - Risk was my album of the year.
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Today...
Canterbury... Phil Miller - Cutting Both Ways Crossover... Todd Rundgren - A Wizard A True Star Eclectic... Gentle Giant - Free Hand Post Metal... The Devin Townsend Band - Synchestra Heavy Prog... Rush - 2112 Fusion... RTF - Romantic Warrior Neo-prog... Frost* - Milliontown Math Rock... Polyphia - Remember That You Will Die Prog Folk... Tull - Thick as a Brick Prog Metal... Dream Theater - Images and Words Space Rock... Pink Floyd - Animals RIO... Mike Keneally and Beer For Dolphins - Sluggo! Symphonic... Spock's Beard - V Tech... Intervals - The Way Forward Prog Related... King's X - Dogman Edited by Grumpyprogfan - December 20 2024 at 04:57 |
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I generally find the Metal genres tiresome, the albums are often long and lack dynamics (not to mention the crushed cymbals and double kick drums I find unpleasant), but it's not really the case of that Mastodon album. Still, I'd get rid of a couple of tracks and I can only listen to it as background music.
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