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Magma's Kontherkosz has an interesting 10/4 in the slow sections.
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It'd probably be difficult to find a prog album that's 4/4 all the way through.
If you're having trouble figuring out time signatures, try counting along with your fingers or tapping along with your feet. If you tap your foot every half measure like it's 4/4 but it's in 7/4, you'll probably correct yourself naturally because it doesn't feel right. Nonagon Infinity by King Gizzard is a great 'my first weird time-signatures' album. It's a very driving album with a steady beat, making it easy to follow, but with all kinds of time signatures, some easy to understand (e.g. whenever the title phrase is sung = 7 beats), some more difficult (e.g., the verses of Big Fig Wasp, or Road Train). There's some really fun parts, like how Mr. Beat is mainly 3x 7/4, and then 1x 8/4 over and over.
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I found an online score of this here: https://opensheets.org/sheet-music/machine-messiah/4723.html If this score is accurate (I only have rudimentary score reading skills), it's going from 9/8 to 7/8 to 12/8 to 15/8 and then repeating that again. Honestly, it's going too fast for me to count it to confirm it (I have a slow brain today). Maybe someone with better ears can confirm what's going on in that section?
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^ Hey, thanks for that! This morning I was relistening, and indeed was able to spot the 9/8.. (I wonder if the "9" makes it especially elusive.., because it is fairly clear for me now). But beyond that, let's say the 2nd. part of the same section I got lost. So thanks! (Still.. imo, the section achieves at seeming to have an ethereal or atemporal quality nonetheless). Edited by Machinemessiah - August 31 2022 at 15:56 |
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If you're looking for more 5/4 stuff |
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"The Dance of Eternity" is a good example of odd time signatures.
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I could've SWORN Tubular Bells PT. 1 started in 15/16
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^It is in 15. Whether it's in 15/4 or 15/16 really just depends on what you're considering quarter notes or what the BPM (beats per minute) is. I would write it out in 15/4. Or, alternately, 4/4, then 3/4, then 4/4, then 4/4, repeat.
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Stargazers by Khan is mostly in 13/16. I really like how they divided that time signature so it doesn't sound weird or avantgarde.
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^Starts off in 11/16 if I remember correctly, and then it goes into 13/16. Pretty cool.
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Leb i Sol (1978) Devetka. An example of a 9/8 time signature.
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Fairport Convention's most unconventional song: Autopsy, with time signatures changing from 5/4, to 4/4 and then back to 5/4 again by way of 6/8.
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Dün's sole album was "Eros" (1981). The album was inspired by an idea from the Dune series by Frank Herbert, and it is widely considered a masterpiece of French progressive rock. My favourite song, "Bitonio," begins with an xylophone-accented odd time signature and a build-up before launching into its primary piano riff and continuing to expand from there. The song transitions from the main riff to a brief ambient-like part and back again, with amazing flute and guitar performances by the band members Vandenbulcke and Geeraerts completing the picture. |
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Actually, You can here odd signatures here and there on almost every solid prog album. For me, interesting is Siberian Khatru, that starts with 15/8. Zappa is crazy about that and can change it like 10 times in one song.
Also Caravan gives plenty even on "The Land of Grey and Pink" for instance. "King Crimson is the only band, that is able to play in 17/8 and still live in expensive hotels" Bill Bruford :).
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I can not say that I have ever listened to any music for some music this or that ... these "mechanics" are great for teaching things some, but I think that when it comes to handling and trying to tell someone it is this or that, I think it is a problem. Having been around many writers, and musicians, a lot of them talk about what, and how, they see the inside, and some were even good enough to kinda describe it as if it were some kind of a movie ... and then one day Daevid said ... let them find the time signatures in the wind! In the end, I find that a lot of these details are, often, a matter of comfort and simply trying to do something or other, or in some cases a "mistake" ... but if you are a theatrical type of person and have enough experience with things, "mistakes" are never mistakes ... they usually are a doorway to something else, perhaps new parts for something else. I tend to turn off material that comes off like ... showing off the signature changes ... as if it were some kind of outstanding musical ability ... which I'm not sure is the case, and it could have happened because someone accidentally dropped a note here or there, and the engineer said ... actually it sounds better than way! I trust the instinctive design of things, but the mechanical style of a lot of things mentioned here is something that I can not seem to enjoy a whole lot. A good example, is Frank Zappa ... I never really thought about a time signature ... it's just great music, regardless.
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for decades anything with irregular time sigs was automatically prog for me
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EGG's Visit to the Newport Hospital, Long Piece No.2, etc
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Slovenian mostly instrumental band Mladi Levi (English: "The Young Lions") was formed in 1966 as a nine-piece ensemble and named after the 1958 film The Young Lions, based on the novel by Irwin Shaw, directed by Edward Dmytryk. They touched on a variety of styles, and in the late 1960s and early 1970s, they played progressive music as well. When Mladi Levi was disbanded in 1975, its founder, composer and guitarist Janez Bončina, established the legendary Slovenian jazz-rock band September. In 1967, the Mladi Levi recorded this excellent progressive jazz instrumental with odd time signatures, "Derviš i smrt" (English: "The Dervish and the Death"), as per the request of Slovenian Radio Television Ljubljana. The track is named after a well-known novel by Bosnian writer Meša Selimović, published in 1966. Slovenian television decided to make a short documentary about the writer and his then-freshly published novel, so they needed music. It is available on the Mladi Levi 1999 compilation album "Antologija" (English: "Anthology"). |
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Nobody mentioned Hold Out Your Hand by Chris Squire yet? That song was written in a crazy sequence of shifting time signatures.
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