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Anyways, most of you haters basically have limited your criticism to them sounding like Led Zeppelin. While that's obviously true, the new album stands out for its strong melodies and thoughtful arrangements. This isn't a record that just strings together riffs with someone belting over them. The songs develop, they have layers, the melodies have lots of movement with troughs AND, obviously, peaks. 

But hey, it sounds like Led Zeppelin and you boomers are in no mood for getting your blood pressure going with a fresh take on the sound. 
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Originally posted by ssmarcus ssmarcus wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sorry, but anyone who thinks GVF is new and original is simply put ignorant. . 

Absolutely. Especially when you consider just how original Led Zeppelin themselves were. They were essentialyl the musical equivalent of creation ex nihilo. They had a sound completely and utterly apart from their predecessors and contemporaries. And really, this is the only way to evaluate music - by ensuring it is entirely autonomous creative endeavor utterly disconnected from temporal reality around it. 

I have to say, I really appreciate the subtlety of your hot takes. You really have a great way of thinking things all the way through before you say them. 

The only people that think GFV is disconnected from temporal reality are those who don't know a stoner rock/homage to the 70s has existed since the 90s. Now I dislike the term "stoner", but what that music does is paying their respect to late 60s & 70s heavy psyche, blues rock, hard rock and so on. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Are they getting ridiculed and mocked for sounding like Led Zep? No, not at all. 
The other bands were and I've always thought they did not deserve that. That's what bothered me. 

I just did a google search for Greta Van Fleet and the first thing that comes up is a question of why they are hated, a review by journalist who hated them for sounding like Led Zepplen, and loads of other hate. Just watch Anthony Fantano's last two reviews for their records... 
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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.
FIFY!!!
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And yes...moved to "General Music Discussion"

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Originally posted by yogev yogev wrote:

But all the people here, I wonder if you listened to the new album. because after all the thread is about the album not the band.

THANK YOU! 

Anyways if you liked Age of the Machine and their earlier record, you will absolutely dig this record. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sorry, but anyone who thinks GVF is new and original is simply put ignorant. . 

Absolutely. Especially when you consider just how original Led Zeppelin themselves were. They were essentialyl the musical equivalent of creation ex nihilo. They had a sound completely and utterly apart from their predecessors and contemporaries. And really, this is the only way to evaluate music - by ensuring it is entirely autonomous creative endeavor utterly disconnected from temporal reality around it. 

I have to say, I really appreciate the subtlety of your hot takes. You really have a great way of thinking things all the way through before you say them. 
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Originally posted by ssmarcus ssmarcus wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Why does this band get a pass as retro-Led Zep influenced/inspired band and everyone else in the past got mocked?- Great White, Kingdom Come and Whitesnake. Always bothered me. 

Ummm... literally NOBODY gives them pass. Here's a challenge for you. Find a SINGLE article on the internet that mentions that band that doesn't also mention Led Zeppelin... 

Are they getting ridiculed and mocked for sounding like Led Zep? No, not at all. 
The other bands were and I've always thought they did not deserve that. That's what bothered me. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Why does this band get a pass as retro-Led Zep influenced/inspired band and everyone else in the past got mocked?- Great White, Kingdom Come and Whitesnake. Always bothered me. 

Ummm... literally NOBODY gives them pass. Here's a challenge for you. Find a SINGLE article on the internet that mentions that band that doesn't also mention Led Zeppelin... 
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

The Greta album is great but to me Greg Kurstin's production feels a bit too pristine and modern for that type of music.

Im with you on this one. My one criticism was indeed the production which makes certain parts of the record pop real loud. Its nice to see another fan here! 
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In any case, Greta Van Halen doesn't even really play blues.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.


That is a picture of Blind Willie McTell, not Blind Willie Johnson ("Nobody's Fault But Mine"). And you forgot....




Edited by The Dark Elf - May 06 2021 at 03:02
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2021 at 14:16
Probably not what was intended by the OP, but this has become an amusing thread.
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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.



FIFY!!!
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And yes...moved to "General Music Discussion"


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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.
FIFY!!!
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And yes...moved to "General Music Discussion"


Edited by Tapfret - May 05 2021 at 13:50
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.

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^Re-Greta-Bull.
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And lose this great album cover?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2021 at 11:58
Fleet Foxes' new album Shore is excellent. Perhaps we can just talk about them, rather than Greta Van Susteren.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Never heard of em before but I gave myself a giggle just now reading the thread title as Greta Van Fleet Foxes. Incidentally, Fleet Foxes just so happenstances to be one of Robert Plant’s modern faves.
Now, Fleet Foxes is a good band. Robert always had good taste.
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Never heard of em before but I gave myself a giggle just now reading the thread title as Greta Van Fleet Foxes. Incidentally, Fleet Foxes just so happens to be one of Robert Plant’s modern faves.
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