C'mon boomers, who else feels me on this?! 

Boomers? Are you trying to insult people or what's going on? WTF?!

And no, I listened to a song from the album and it socked. 

Why does this band get a pass as retro-Led Zep influenced/inspired band and everyone else in the past got mocked?- Great White, Kingdom Come and Whitesnake. Always bothered me. 

Sorry, but anyone who thinks GVF is new and original is simply put ignorant. I assume anyone who is into rock music knows who Led Zeppelin is, so I don't see how anyone can think GVF is exciting and original. 

so the guys in GVF say they're influenced by Aerosmith, well then someone tell those kids Led Zeppelin were a big influence on Aerosmith. 

I do listen to my share of clone bands, I'll admit that, but this band is no fun for me. In fact GFV annoyed me quite a bit. 

[Maniacal laughter] Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! [/Maniacal laughter]

I have no idea what generation I am (born in 1975, if that helps), but these guys are the most derivative drivel I have heard in a long time. I don’t even mind derivative music at times, and I’ve some in my cd collection. But this isn’t even impressive. I know everyone has their own opinion, and I know this band has a lot of fans.

It doesn’t help that I’m not a great fan of Led Zep, so I was almost predisposed to dislike their debut. But when people told me that the second album had shed the Led Zep clone style, I figured I’d give them a second shot. They still do nothing for me, and they still sound completely unoriginal and uninspired.

As can be seen by some of the bands that feature in PA, and top the yearly charts, there is plenty of retro music that wears its influences on its sleeves that is well-loved. But GVF ain’t there yet. I’m not writing them off, and I’ll give them another shot with their next album. But my hopes aren’t high.....

 

I was talking about people, even young ones, that listen to rock music. They know who led Zeppelin is. Metalheads know Led Zeppelin and appreciate a lot of their music. 

you think the OP does not who Led Zeppelin is and thinks GFV is an original exciting band? Now that would be funny. 

Led Zeppelin are still huge and the younger generation do discover their music, at least the famous songs. 

But all the people here, I wonder if you listened to the new album. because after all the thread is about the album not the band.

so if the band has annoyed me so far, should I give the new album a chance? 

As per my post on the previous page, I have listened to the new album. It’s no more listenable for me than their first. I would never rubbish an album without listening to it first.

But the thing is, it really shouldn’t matter who else likes or dislikes a band. I know that a lot of stuff I listen to is not something that most of my friends and family would ever listen to. I don’t care if they like it or not, and if they don’t like it, I don’t care if they rubbish it. It doesn’t affect my enjoyment of their music. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Frankenmuth has a music scene? Admittedly, I've only been there twice (both for dog shows) and my only impressions were bratwurst, cheese, and Christmas decorations. The place has a sort of pseudo-Bavarian vibe going. I guess I need to get out more when I visit these places, but the aforementioned comments suggest I was OK with just seeking out bratwurst while I was there.

I love Led Zeppelin and Robert Plant.  I've listened to GVF's albums and their EP.  Being a home state band I feel a kinship with them so to speak.  They definitely have a Led Zeppelin feel, mostly due to the singer's voice, but I have to say that it hasn't grown on me...yet.  I'm hoping that it is a case of needing repeated listenings to adjust to it but so far I must say it is more grating than Plant.  I don't hate it, like many of the previous posters, but it hasn't fully clicked with me yet either. 

And I can't see them being in the archives any time soon either.

I haven't heard the whole thing, and do not think if I will find a time to do it; but from the three or four new songs I have heard, I got the impression that there is a slight improvement from their previous album.

Still, the songs are quite forgettable, hardly intriguing, and a bit samey. I really hope that around their fourth or fifth release, we will get the actual sound of this band, that could hopefully be something that really grabs you!

Also, as far as I know, they not only try to but clearly avoid mentioning Zeppelin in interviews and so on, which is a shame. Most of the people listening to them are doing so because of the similarities and possibly the nostalgia; For me, they are still far behind  LZ.

*I was thinking of starting a GVF thread at some point but will not do it in the presence of this one*

Geddy's a bass compared to this guy. Dogs come running when you play this CD.

FIFY!!!

And yes...moved to "General Music Discussion"

That is a picture of Blind Willie McTell, not Blind Willie Johnson ("Nobody's Fault But Mine"). And you forgot....

Im with you on this one. My one criticism was indeed the production which makes certain parts of the record pop real loud. Its nice to see another fan here! 

Ummm... literally NOBODY gives them pass. Here's a challenge for you. Find a SINGLE article on the internet that mentions that band that doesn't also mention Led Zeppelin... 

Are they getting ridiculed and mocked for sounding like Led Zep? No, not at all. 

The other bands were and I've always thought they did not deserve that. That's what bothered me. 

Absolutely. Especially when you consider just how original Led Zeppelin themselves were. They were essentialyl the musical equivalent of creation ex nihilo. They had a sound completely and utterly apart from their predecessors and contemporaries. And really, this is the only way to evaluate music - by ensuring it is entirely autonomous creative endeavor utterly disconnected from temporal reality around it. 

I have to say, I really appreciate the subtlety of your hot takes. You really have a great way of thinking things all the way through before you say them. 

THANK YOU! 

Anyways if you liked Age of the Machine and their earlier record, you will absolutely dig this record. 

SHOTS FIRED!!!!

I just did a google search for Greta Van Fleet and the first thing that comes up is a question of why they are hated, a review by journalist who hated them for sounding like Led Zepplen, and loads of other hate. Just watch Anthony Fantano's last two reviews for their records... 

The only people that think GFV is disconnected from temporal reality are those who don't know a stoner rock/homage to the 70s has existed since the 90s. Now I dislike the term "stoner", but what that music does is paying their respect to late 60s & 70s heavy psyche, blues rock, hard rock and so on. 

But hey, it sounds like Led Zeppelin and you boomers are in no mood for getting your blood pressure going with a fresh take on the sound. 

stop using the term "boomers' as a slur, every time I see it it's like you're giving me the mddle finger for no reason. You either don't know what it is or you think all the users are in their 60s or something. You'd be surprised there are people of all ages on this forum. 

What is even more unpleasant, is the fact that it feels like this post's only purpose was to provoke some disputes over this new album by GVF (that most people seem to either dislike or not care about), thus giving reasons for the infantile that posted it to throw the "boomer" tag here and there, instead of providing objective reasoning to why this album could be worthy of attention.

I would not be surprised if this post gets locked soon.

We're literally having an internet discussion in 2021 on a classic forum format optimized for your average Netscape user circa 1999. I can't imagine anything more Boomer on the internet. But hey if you guys don't appreciate a bit of self deprecating humor, Ill stop using the term. 

For your reference: 

ssmarcus wrote: Anyways, most of you haters basically have limited your criticism to them sounding like Led Zeppelin. While that's obviously true, the new album stands out for its strong melodies and thoughtful arrangements. This isn't a record that just strings together riffs with someone belting over them. The songs develop, they have layers, the melodies have lots of movement with troughs AND, obviously, peaks.  But hey, it sounds like Led Zeppelin and you boomers are in no mood for getting your blood pressure going with a fresh take on the sound.

Heartbreaker

Er,,,then what is the point?    

Personally I like several of their 'singles' they have released in the last 3 years...haven't listened to all of the albums or the  newest one ...just one track on you tube. Do they sound like Zep...sure they do ,but as already mentioned other bands do also and we all can find bands that sound like the Beatles, Stones, or a combo of famous bands...Aerosmith anyone? There are only so many 'styles' in basic rock. 

An interesting video... I hope they progress into their own 'sound'. 

Did Greta Van Fleet do the soundtrack....?

Try Hands of Time (1991) 

it's my favorite from them. 

So what?! It works!

But I'm surprised to be the first mentioning it: the sound compression is AWFUL! It's barely listenable to me! Please stop this loudness war! 

This is a serious prog forum, fun is against the rules.

I know, I know. But I guess you haven't listen to THIS album, because it's really awful. See https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=greta+van+fleet" rel="nofollow - here .

So we've got: pretty average music, a singer that is yelling all the time... and crazy dynamic-range compression on the top of that! Wow, such a nice listening experience! 

He is exaggerating a littleeee bit. but at some point, He's kinda right.

Owie, five pages already for a supposedly surrogate band....

Never heard of them, and this discussion incited me to at least listen to their latest album.

Well, it's not an endeavour of originality, that's for sure, but it is not that bad over all. I don't mind the singer, he sounds quite sincere in what he's doing and as such not being in an imitation game (although he sounds indeed like Geddy Lee and/or Robert Plant, but when it's good that's fine with me). The playing is quite good too, but the songwriting seems to me rather average. All this, imo, gives a decent rock album, but also very forgettable (and not very prog). I don't know why we should compare them to Rush or Led Zep (or others), because it is just not on the same level of originality and skill, but it is not unpleasant either.

They may be the equivalent to Led Zep as all the Wobblers, Änglagård, Flower Kings, Porcupine Trees, Transatlantics, etc. are to the Greats of Prog, in a way, but I know I will hurt some feelings here...

Gotta say, you say some smart stuff! Right on mate! 

Guldbamsen wrote: So I had a quick listen to the newest album and I gotta say I genuinely don’t get the vitriol against these guys. I mean sure they’re channelling some of that good old 70s rock vibes from a fair few bands, Zep included....but rip off/plagiarising they’re certainly not. Personally I think Wobbler sounds more like Yes than Fleta sounds like Led Zeppelin...and I dig both bands (at least by the quick cursory listen I just had). YMMV of course

I tend to agree with you :)

I finally listened to the album, and I f***ing loved it! Every song in here its a piece on his own. the bassist Samuel Kiszka is also play keyboards on the album, and its add so much. it don't feel like regular rock songs, it more complex and intresting. 

great druming, amazing guitar playing and incredble singing. the only problem is that the album is a little bit too long and some of the songs at the end are fillers. 

The inflated ego of Dave Grohl?? Dude's gotta be one of the most down to earth rock stars of all time. Where are you getting that impression from?

I heard GVF is just Starcastle reformed after they heard Yes' Heaven and Earth album and said with a resounding voice "NOPE ! We're out ! What other band can we mimic?" 

I've met DG. I've played with DG. I'll leave it at that!!!