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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

The Anders: Pervolargia “Garden”  Lovely Greek piece with violin, probably bouzouki and an instrument that sounds like a kanun or santur.


I think there may be a cimbalom.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2021 at 14:26
Thank you!  I know lots of people who play Middle Eastern music will also play Greek styled music at times, as so many of the instruments have similarities.  The way they approach these kinds of sounds differ from each other so that you can tell which style it is in....also many will play Flamenco and Gitano types of music. I love them all!
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Blind Guardian: Folk music and hard rock / metal is not a rare combination, but while the vocals move towards hard rock screaming towards the end, the metal sound I expected at the beginning does not come. But surprises are nice, and I really like the song. The second track reminds me a bit of it melodically. The visual performance is a bit over-the-top to my taste (especially with the big guy with the bass drum). I like it musically, but I clearly prefer the first one.

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Mark Fry - The Witch: I think I have heard it before (the melody right at the beginning makes me think of "Mother Sky" by Can). It's rather dark and 'noir'ish with its hypnotic and monotonous arrangement.

Cristi
The first song (Cantec de oameni) starts in the Mixolydian mode with acoustic instruments - which later reappears in the outro, leaving the song in a dreamy and thoughtful mood. The biggest attraction for me is however the guitar work throughout the song. It is really great, but I also like the composition and the vocal harmonies. Phoenix starts with some quite heavy guitar work (which, funnily enough, is also Mixolydian). Then enters an acoustic guitar figure im the right channel. Again the feeling is quite dream-like. There are also some ooh's, and towards the end, a drumbeat sets in, but then the song fades out. The final song (Nicu alifantis) has a melancholic Mediterranean tone to its melody, but the folk elements are counterpointed by some synthesizers. Good composition, and I sense the words have quite a lot of weight - especially as there is recitation towards the end.

jamesbaldwin
Adriano Celentano: Il ragazzo della via Gluck is more in the style of mid 60's pop to my ears. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing, just an observation. But to be honest it is not a type of music that really appeals to me. But maybe there is some lyrical content to be aware of?

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The Low Anthem - "Charlie Darwin" is a melancholic guitar ballad (is the guitar tuned down a bit, or is it recorded at a high speed and then slowed down? - it sounds a bit that way). Normally I am not fond of falsetto singing, but here I actually think it fits the song well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2021 at 03:46
...and a quick follow-up on the rest of the suggestions:

micky: If I would have a model in mind of what American folk music would sound like it could be this song by Gordon Lightfoot. Great singing and great playing, and the way both the guitar and the drums convey the tension of the situation is wonderful. Great choice!

Raff: Belfast Child, this is actually from the only album (Street Fighting Years) from Simple Minds that I have, and a great album it is, including this song: they have appropriated the traditional Irish folk music and incorporated it in their own style of pop-rock in a very powerful way. Engaging! With Admirals Hard we're going at sea in a very up-tempo and festive manner. The music may not be the most original, but the playing is tight and the vocal harmonies are beautiful (and I like the way how they exploit the extreme wide angle lens for the filming of this clip!). The  Nuova Compagnia di Canto Popolare remain more traditional in their performance, musically speaking, but they make it very engaging, especially through their singing. Fotheringay still top all of these though, for me.

mathman: Nice round-trip! Yes, with James Holden & The Animal Spirits we definitely go into more psychedelic territory; makes me think of some of The Grateful Dead. Very nice. Then two by Tin Hat (Trio or more...): first we wander away on the Width of the World with an intimate kind of contemporary saloon-folk - very cinematic. On Helium Reprise there is more accent on the contemporary aspect of the music without loosing the cinematic quality. Love the way the accordion is used on both of these tracks. Crimson doesn't grab me as much as the previous suggestions. There is nothing not to like in it, great melodies from the different instruments and the singing, but it is not really sticking with me once it's over. Unfolk, with Bedroom Discothèque, leaves a similar impression: a very pleasant song, great arrangements, some very nice vocal harmonies, but it doesn't leave a big impression either. A farewell to your selections with Tuva Farewell, interesting blues-folk mixed with Tuvan singing, which works quite well, but his own singing brings this on a much higher level. Very interesting, but my personal favourite of yours is Width of the World by Tin Hat Trio.

The Anders: Sorten Muld bring us a kind of soothing traditional which builds up through its rich arrangements. Nice production but maybe a bit to smooth for my ears? The Greek traditional conveys more emotion, imo. Musically we're indeed in more traditional territory regarding the playing. I'm more on a holiday trip than with the previous one, but at the same time it is not very challenging either. The song you put up by Väsen is by far my preferred one.

Lewian: I saw a documentary about the architecture of the Elbphilarmonie - quite impressive building and the acoustics of the auditorium seems to be exceptional! The Danish String Quartet are less impressive than the architecture of the building to my ears; nice but a bit short, so I probably need to see/hear them live over there...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2021 at 07:11
Always love to read your comments on the suggestions, thanks! Wish I had more time to write some...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2021 at 08:34
I was just about to say the same, re suitkees way of reviewing the music. Very appreciated!

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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:


jamesbaldwin
Adriano Celentano: Il ragazzo della via Gluck is more in the style of mid 60's pop to my ears. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing, just an observation. But to be honest it is not a type of music that really appeals to me. But maybe there is some lyrical content to be aware of?



You're right. 

In Italy It's an historycal song. Maybe the first one written with the approach of an American storyteller. And with an ecological aim, that is clear on the original video

Here's to you the original video:





IL RAGAZZO DELLA VIA GLUCK (THE BOY FROM GLUCK STREET)
This is the story
Of one of us
he was born by chance in via Gluck
In a house, outside the city
Quiet people who worked
Where there was the grass now there is a city
And that house in the open fields
Where will it be?

This boy from Gluck Street
He enjoyed playing with me
But one day he said
I'm going to town
And he said it while he was crying
I ask him: "My friend
Aren't you happy?
You're finally going to town
There you will find the things you didn't get here
You can wash yourself at home without going
Down in the courtyard"
"My dear friend", he said,
"I was born
On this street,
I'll leave my heart here
How can't you understand?
It is a lucky thing for who are staying here,
Barefoot, playing in the meadows.
While there in the center I breathe the cement
But there will come a day when I will come back here
And I'll hear my friend the train
That whistles like that:
"Uah, uah""

Years go by
But eight are long
But that boy has come a long way
But he doesn't forget his first home
Now with the money he can buy it
He comes back and doesn't find the friends he had
Only houses upon houses
Tar and cement
Where there was the grass now there is
A city, ah
And that house in the open fields
Where will it be?

I don't know, I don't know
Why do they continue
To build the houses?
And they don't leave the grass
They don't leave the grass
They don't leave the grass
They don't leave the grass
Well no
If we go on like this, who knows
How will it be done
Who knows
Who knows
How will it turn out


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@Nickie and Lewian: Thanks, you make me blush... Embarrassed  Mine are just superficial impressions and not always very informative, but I'm glad you appreciate them. As I appreciate them from everyone too. I also like how Anders sometimes introduces musical terms that explain a bit more why some pieces sound so intriguing and/or original (I had to look up the "Mixolydian mode" - I only hear there is something interesting going on, but could not pinpoint it nor imagine there was a word for it... Smile)...

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

@Nickie and Lewian: Thanks, you make me blush... Embarrassed  Mine are just superficial impressions and not always very informative, but I'm glad you appreciate them. As I appreciate them from everyone too. I also like how Anders sometimes introduces musical terms that explain a bit more why some pieces sound so intriguing and/or original (I had to look up the "Mixolydian mode" - I only hear there is something interesting going on, but could not pinpoint it nor imagine there was a word for it... Smile)...
  Me too, re Lewian.  Even though I am a hobby harpist, I am not much for music theory, so appreciate that someone knows actual technical terms.  I am sadly reduced to words like "wringly," or "poingggg," at times.  LOL
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^ But they're so eloquent!

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ But they're so eloquent!
LOL
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First thoughts on the additions from Cristi:

Mircea Baniciu “Scrisoare de bun ramas”  Begins with gentle guitar and cymbals.  Light keyboards support the equally gentle male vocalist, with drums kicking in softly behind and also soft electric guitar.  I really like the sound of this one, a bit melancholy and now I see in translated lyrics, that it is so.  The melody is beautiful.  This is my favourite of yours, this time.  Phoenix “Strunga”  A sort of pan flute opens this one with an ominous, somewhat menacing vocal and strummed guitar with bass.  No crossing these guys’ lands!  Nice, psych-style lead guitar joins in ¾ through and the singer is joined with other voices in harmony as the tune fades away.  Nicu Alifantis “Trecea un om”  This one has some flute and a more sing-songy vocal, with some discordant bits of some sort of stringed instrument, can’t quite figure out what it is, it creates an interesting effect together.  Flutters of flute come in, under the vocal as the song picks up pace a bit.  An acoustic lead guitar comes in, the song seems very full of thought to me, like we are eavesdropping on this man’s thoughts.  My favourite thing about this one when the plinky unknown stringed instrument comes in at the various times that it does.  It has a cinematic feel to me.  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

@Nickie and Lewian: Thanks, you make me blush... Embarrassed  Mine are just superficial impressions and not always very informative, but I'm glad you appreciate them. As I appreciate them from everyone too. I also like how Anders sometimes introduces musical terms that explain a bit more why some pieces sound so intriguing and/or original (I had to look up the "Mixolydian mode" - I only hear there is something interesting going on, but could not pinpoint it nor imagine there was a word for it... Smile)...
  Me too, re Lewian.  Even though I am a hobby harpist, I am not much for music theory, so appreciate that someone knows actual technical terms.  I am sadly reduced to words like "wringly," or "poingggg," at times.  LOL

Actually  my "you" was ambigous and my appreciation was meant to go to all of you Nicky, The Anders, suitkees!
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

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Actually  my "you" was ambigous and my appreciation was meant to go to all of you Nicky, The Anders, suitkees!
[/QUOTE]  Good clarification.  I know not everyone has time or inclination to respond in any sort of length to the entries, but I do enjoy reading them, any and all that have done so.
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"Siuil A Ruin" has some really interesting vocal harmonies in the chorus, especially with the phrasings. In the verses it gets a bit new age-like to my taste, especially with the soft strings. But I really enjoy the chorus. Faun - "Federkleid" begins with a tin whistle (I think - it also appears in the previous song), but the song is more rhythmic. A bit too feel-good like for my taste tbh. "Estrelina Do Lucero" starts with a harp. The vocal performace is more neutral, and the track is clearly my favourite among those three.

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Opa Cupa - Pompei is quite a surprising style combination between folk and "music conservatory funk". The latter dominates the instrumentation while the singing and melody is clearly folkish. The combination works surprisingly well. Solarference is another interesting combination. Obviously in the area of folktronica, but they clearly have their own interpretation of the term. Sampler and acoustic guitar. Very interesting song. Reminds me a bit of an Australian project called Clue to Kalo.

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The Amazing Blondel - "Seascapes" sounds like something that could have been released in the 1970's. Must be based on some British folk music tradition. Great vocal harmonies. Interesting with the orchestral arrangement. Fovea Hex - "You Were There" has some very delicions backing vocals. Harmonically it is based  on the Dorian mode. There's a drone in the bottom which - among the drums that come in later - makes me think of Indian music. Fleet Foxes - "Ragged Wood": And now for something completely different. It sounds more American to me. Fine song, but I like the other two a lot better.
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Snicolette
"Siuil A Ruin" has some really interesting vocal harmonies in the chorus, especially with the phrasings. In the verses it gets a bit new age-like to my taste, especially with the soft strings. But I really enjoy the chorus. Faun - "Federkleid" begins with a tin whistle (I think - it also appears in the previous song), but the song is more rhythmic. A bit too feel-good like for my taste tbh. "Estrelina Do Lucero" starts with a harp. The vocal performace is more neutral, and the track is clearly my favourite among those three.

  Thank you for your thoughts!  I will have a hard time selecting my choice to nominate, and, obviously, what to vote for this time!
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Before I won't have the occasion to communicate it, my nomination is: Tunng - Woodcat

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Bruce Springsteen - Johnny 99. I have only listened sporadically to the Nebraska album. The songs I did know were more low-key; this one sounds more like a demo for a song on one of his E-street Band albums. It has a touch of rockabilly (there is even added echo to the vocal track). Even though I appreciate the minimalist approach on the album, I feel this particular song would be better off with his band. But in general I am not that much of a Bruce Springsteen fan. John Hiatt Mr. Stanley (2000) is in the blues area, and I personally like it a lot better. I like its free use of irregular rhythm, and actually I think I prefer blues music this way. It appeals more to me than electric blues. Johnny Cash: Like The 309 (2006): More American folklore sound here, and as usually Mr. Cash adds a hell lot of autenticity with his down-to-earth vocal performance. It would surely had been a contender for my votes had it been in the competition.

Stormy Six: Arrivano gli americani (Americans are coming) starts in a rather gloomy mood with some rather sinister and interesting chord changes. Then there's a sudden change of mood with the dance-like chorus, but we're soon back to the ominous. There's also a touch of cabaret to it. I like this a lot. Very interesting composition, and not without humour. Il barbiere (The Barber) sounds almost Zappa-ish with its complex rhythmic and tonal structure. Love the pling plong sound of it. When the vocals set in, it turns into a march. Once again the chord changes are quite out there, and as such very much up my alley. Towards the end there is some really great guitar work. Le Lucciole (The Fireflies) uses clarinets - which is almost grotesque in the context, and I mean that positively. More pling plong sounds from circa 3:30. Around 4:30 there comes a friggin' fugue. Another very interesting track, but I think I like the other two better. I admit I had not heard of this band, but it is definitely worth checking out. A strong contender for my part.


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Bruce Springsteen - Johnny 99. I have only listened sporadically to the Nebraska album. The songs I did know were more low-key; this one sounds more like a demo for a song on one of his E-street Band albums. It has a touch of rockabilly (there is even added echo to the vocal track). Even though I appreciate the minimalist approach on the album, I feel this particular song would be better off with his band. But in general I am not that much of a Bruce Springsteen fan. John Hiatt Mr. Stanley (2000) is in the blues area, and I personally like it a lot better. I like its free use of irregular rhythm, and actually I think I prefer blues music this way. It appeals more to me than electric blues. Johnny Cash: Like The 309 (2006): More American folklore sound here, and as usually Mr. Cash adds a hell lot of autenticity with his down-to-earth vocal performance. It would surely had been a contender for my votes had it been in the competition.

Stormy Six: Arrivano gli americani (Americans are coming) starts in a rather gloomy mood with some rather sinister and interesting chord changes. Then there's a sudden change of mood with the dance-like chorus, but we're soon back to the ominous. There's also a touch of cabaret to it. I like this a lot. Very interesting composition, and not without humour. Il barbiere (The Barber) sounds almost Zappa-ish with its complex rhythmic and tonal structure. Love the pling plong sound of it. When the vocals set in, it turns into a march. Once again the chord changes are quite out there, and as such very much up my alley. Towards the end there is some really great guitar work. Le Lucciole (The Fireflies) uses clarinets - which is almost grotesque in the context, and I mean that positively. More pling plong sounds from circa 3:30. Around 4:30 there comes a friggin' fugue. Another very interesting track, but I think I like the other two better. I admit I had not heard of this band, but it is definitely worth checking out. A strong contender for my part.

@The Anders

happy to hear your words....

My nomination is

STORMY SIX:

Il barbiere
 
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