Interactive poll No. -46 2/3 - the folk music poll
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Topic: Interactive poll No. -46 2/3 - the folk music poll
Posted By: The Anders
Subject: Interactive poll No. -46 2/3 - the folk music poll
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 11:42
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Hi, and welcome to poll No. -46 2/3. The theme this time is folk music. Now obviously this is a very wide term and can mean many different things. But many types of music have inspiration from some sort of folk music. Here, for example, the impact of Indonesian folk music: I decided to make the theme wide as well. Your song or piece has to be either folk music of some sorts, or just contain folk elements in one way or another. There are many options: for instance regional folk music traditions from all corners of the world, modern folk music, the American folk tradition (like, say, Woody Guthrie or Pete Seeger) jazz/folk, folk rock, folktronica, and so on. Voting will start in approximately a week. As usually, you are free to post several tracks, but please don't overdo it, and of course in the end you should nominate one track.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:07
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Great! Can we participate with a fantastical folk song? If yes, my nomination is this. I didn't think on this even for a minute! Edit: I changed my idea. Edit: I might nominate this one too. Some early feedback would be good! (This is the first time I'm undecided about my nomination, as far as remember.) Edit:  This is my nomination.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:11
how is this different from the previous folk +protest round? Sure no protest song obviously  . Is it folk as in acoustic song or is it folk as in folklore related music?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:12
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I still have to vote in the last one. I will nominate this: Mark Fry - The Witch |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:13
It could be either :) There wasn't much folk music in the potest poll anyway, so that's why I decided to go with it.
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Cristi wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:16
ok, I'll think of something really soon.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 16:03
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 16:57
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CANDIDATE #1 This song was published in 1966. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 18:25
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Can suggestions be on PA? (Need to finish with the other poll first... too much work at the moment.) |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 19:20
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I have to post this one to start off. I've posted from this band before, but I think they are excellent and woefully ignored, one of my favorites. The Low Anthem - "Charlie Darwin" I'll do some more later. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 19:35
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I would like to second the question of if any listed in PA disqualify?
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 12:59
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I'd say PA artists are OK, but please don't pick too well-known artists. So no Jethro Tull f.e. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 13:18
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 13:37
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OK then, I have SO much I could put up, but think it's better to save some for repeat themes, just in case. So my theme here will be other-than-English-language (with a small exception, for part of the first is in English) folk tunes. The first up is someone I brought forward before, Connie Dover. Here, she sings, "Siuil A Ruin," in both English and the chorus is sung in Gaelic.
Next up will be Faun, who are in Prog Archives, the most reviews any of their releases have gotten is 13, so I think they're lesser-known enough to enter. They are listed as Prog/Folk and are from Germany. Last is a song from Galicia with the wonderful Milladoiro performing it, "Estrelina Do Lucero" They are one of the premiere Galician musical acts. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 14:38
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It seems there's a big interest in Italy in international folk music. I've heard and partly seen live a number of Italian musicians "researching" such music and collaborating with musicians who are at home in such music. Here's my first discovery of this kind, a southern Italian international project playing Balkanese and Romani music with some modern jazz and rock thrown in. I find them stunning. Opa Cupa - Pompei |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 15:12
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Solarference are the only band I ever proposed successfully for PA inclusion. I don't think that up to now this has boosted their popularity much though. So I can use them here (I'm actually not 100% sure whether I already have in an earlier poll, but anyway...) I know them because their singer Sarah was a vocals teacher of a friend of mine. Their "laptop folk" is something that I'd call truly original. Here's Cold Blows the Wind. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 15:17
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I was waiting to see if PA entries were allowed to post this one. When Amazing Blondel was at their best, they were so very good. Here is one of my favorites from them. The Amazing Blondel - "Seascapes" _________ Although they are considered a Progressive Electronic band in the Archives, Fovea Hex always has that folk sound to me, just using non-traditional instruments. Fovea Hex - "You Were There" ____________ And I know this is my fourth entry, but I have so many I could put here. I have posted this band in the past also, but I just can't let this poll go by without posting this song that sounds like their voices are echoing though the mountains. Fleet Foxes - "Ragged Wood" ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 17:48
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I apologize if I put in so many songs, but I love folk music, and I wanted to share some of my favorite songs with you, for those who have time and desire to listen to them. In any case, four of these songs are out of the competition, only three songs are the candidates OUT OF COMPETITION: * Bruce Springsteen: Johnny 99 (1982) ** John Hiatt Mr. Stanley (2000) *** Johnny Cash: Like The 309 (2006) ------------- CANDIDATE #2 Italian Progressive Folk: STORMY SIX 2) Stormy Six: Arrivano gli americani (Americans are coming) (1975) CANDIDATE #3 5) Stormy Six: Il barbiere (The Barber) (1976) ------------------ OUT OF COMPETITION: FOR THOSE WHO LOVE FOLK COMBINED WITH AVANT-GARDE **** Stormy Six: Le Lucciole (The Fireflies) (1980) ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 18:18
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My first contribution is by the Swedish folk trio Väsen. They are using the Swedish folk tradition, but bringing their own touch to it. The instruments are guitar, a 5 string viola (not violin) and nyckelharpa - a traditional Swedish instrument. The track, if I remember correctly, is composed by the guitarist. It translates into "the old IPA man". |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 15:03
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What... is... this? (Yes, they file under "folk".) |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 15:08
| ^I was thinking about them. I am still trying to decide on what to post. May not be until the weekend. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 15:09
Gotta be patient then... everything folky you put up I love to pieces.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 15:15
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Generally I love this topic! I have a weak spot for many things folk and there is so much more out there than I know... great potential for getting to know some really good stuff. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 16:01
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 16:36
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This one
has so many right up my alley that I know it will be just about impossible for
me to pick favourites….and so many I never have heard, either! Congratulations on all of the Page One entries so far, just fantastic!!! Here are my thoughts on these, at first listen. The Anders: Spinal Tap “Indonesian Folk Music” An inspired intro to the poll! Thanks for doing this theme, we really didn’t do folk music on the protest/folk poll, so I think it’s quite fitting and a theme that I personally love. Väsen “IPA -Gubben” Most excellent Swedish folk trio here….I’m quite familiar with the nyckelharpa (have actually played with one before) wonderful instrument! I do not know of this piece or these people, however. The music is lively and the blend of the lower viola with nyckelharpa and guitar , goes so beautifully together. During the piece, they also slow it down a bit and get contemplative, everyone has a moment to shine here. Just love it! Shadowyzard: Blind Guardian “A Past & Future Secret” I really like this one for it’s semi-Medieval tone and the grandeur as the drums kick in, the vocal choruses are beautiful and the dynamics are lovely. Very nice intertwining of folk with a very modern vocal twist from time to time. Obscurus Orbis “Kost Ar C’hoat” Not heard a note yet, but expecting something similar to Corvus Corax….we shall see. And yes, here we go, just as suspected from the photo before hitting play. Nice combination of instrumentation, a rousing Viking-esque tune with hurdy gurdy, tenor mandolin (I believe), bagpipes, recorder and, of course percussion. Lovely, haven’t heard either of these before! Logan: Mark Fry “The Witch” Begins intriguingly with an almost-whispery voice and some wringly sort of stringed instrument(s) and very far back flute and percussion in the mix. Goes into a raga-rock jam partway through, I sat through many a jam session like this back in the day. This is very appropriately haunting, the mix makes it sound like the listener must be under an enchantment. Very psych in feel, what was this person ingesting? 😊 I like it! Interesting article on him, here: https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2016/10/mark-fry-interview-dreaming-with-alice.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2016/10/mark-fry-interview-dreaming-with-alice.html Cristi: Valeriu Sterian “Cantec de oameni” Delicate fingerpicking with acoustic and electric guitar and electric bass begin (I love it when folk people add electric to the instrumentation). Simple percussive ornamentation. Definitely that 70’s Alan Stivell/Fairport kind of sound to this, very pleasing to my ear. Little bits of almost sitar-y sound at the end. Delicate and beautiful song. Phoenix “Ciclul anotimpurilor, Preludiu: A oilor, Jocul timpului; Primavara” Begins with lead electric guitar, then shimmering cymbals as guitar continues. Very slow build with flute or keys (?) gradually adding into the mix. Bass wanders in about 2/3rds in and the pace picks up a notch. Fuzzy electric lead concludes this very subtle piece. Nicu Alifantis “Mosul Iene” Another delicately produced song, this one feels very cinematic to me with it’s quiet vocals and very subdued orchestration. Quite beautiful lyrics, mournful song. Winds up with some synth-type lead before the lament concludes. Lorenzo: Adriano Cenentano “Ragazzo della via gluck” Upbeat song, this one also has a cinematic feel to it. Has certainly a 60’s pop feel to it, with some horns ornamenting the vocalist. Has a feeling of a warm, sunny day to me, sort of carefree and light. Bruce Springsteen “Johnny 99” Opens with strains of a train sound (by Bruce), and chorded acoustic guitar. It has kind of an almost upbeat sound, despite the subject matter, perhaps done in irony. Very much a traditional American-type folk song, with harmonica embellishments. John Hiatt “Mr. Stanley” This one has a dark feel to it, with John Hiatt’s whisky-voice, and banjo-y guitar, this one has a more Delta kind of feel to it, also traditional style. Johnny Cash “Like the 309” Unmistakably Cash here, in all of his gruff authenticity, in a bare-bones setting. No one else quite like him. Stormy Six “Arrivano gli americani (Americans are coming)” Steady beat and shimmering strings with what I am coming to appreciate as a certain “Italian,” sound to the vocals. This one is obviously about Americans bringing some good things (chocolate!), I was prepared for dismay, but of course, this is from a different era. There is a happy violin part in the center of the piece, elation at the chocolate, no doubt. More lyrics, followed by a slippy-slidy sort of Gypsy jazz violin which briefly plays “Yankee Doodle Dandy.” Sounds very stage-y to me, as if it might be in a musical. Followed by Stormy Six again with “Il barbiere (The Barber)” I couldn’t find lyrics in English to this one, but quite enjoy the Gentle Giant-y violins and strings that hop merrily along and eventually seem to hit a stride when the singer begins, again with that “Italianate,” sound. Goes into lots of vibes and the strings hopping about with each other, sometimes in a discordant way, then settles back in to vocals. The piece slows down to it’s outro. More Stormy Six with “Le Lucciole (The Fireflies)” Unable to find English lyrics for this one, either…But very interested to hear, after the last one. This one begins in another GG fashion, lots of time changes and unusual presentations of horns flitting about with electric guitar and percussion…leading to a very pretty duet with flutes and cello. The singer is more atonal in this one. I quite liked the flights of fancy with the horns, violin and electric guitar. This ends with horns, guitars and drums in a kind of demented march. Mike: The Low Anthem “Charlie Darwin” Really pretty, wistful female lead vocals and sort of a lazy feeling to the song. Very subdued production here, with some acoustic guitar and not sure what bolsters the song in parts, it’s very inventive, how it is heard, yet hidden. The Amazing Blondel “Seascapes” Recorders set the tone here, there is quiet orchestration underneath in the way this is produced. Very early 70’s British folk/pastoral rock feel here. Really puts you in the place that they are singing of. Fovea Hex “You Were There” Deep cellos start this one out, with a haunting vocal, very much liking this, I agree with you, it certainly has folk elements. Hypnotic, with a sense of medieval chant to this one. Fleet Foxes “Ragged Wood” This one has a modern alt folk sound to me. I have heard of these guys, but not heard much of their music (once was, as you said, in another share of yours). This one is quite pleasant, but doesn’t give me the rush I got from Fovea Hex. Lewian: Opa Cupa “Pompei” Wow! Really intriguing mix, as you said! This certainly has a feel of Balkan and Romani musics, but so cool how they mix in jazz and rock. Initial repeating keyboard lines begin the piece, a female singer fronts the band, with a sax solo, then trumpet solo, repeating the main melody of t1he song. Also accordian and cello in the band, truly an exciting blend….very compelling.Solarference “Cold Blows the Wind” Love the descriptive of “laptop folk.” Traditional type of folk song, with electronic assistance to chorus the female singer’s vocals with an acoustic guitarist. The (male) guitarist then sings verses, while the woman joins in singing the other part. Beautiful blending of sounds and styles. Heilung “LIFA – In Maidjan LIVE” This band I do know already and just love them, it was a tossup to enter them or Faun, for me, and I went with Faun, so I’m very glad you brought them to the party. This is a very dark Germanic/Viking/Goth/folk band, a style that is very appealing to me. It begins with a horn of some sort, then the male singer goes into an growl/rap sort of thing and tabor-like drums, along with a deep sort of kettle-type drum, keep the beat. It works up to a chant-like part, with everyone joining in, including a female voice. They take a bit of a pause ¾’s in and the woman begins an absolutely eerie vocalization and ululation, while one of the males in the group plays a bowed somethingorother…stunning! The piece continues to intensify and they conclude with a fadeout as the woman plucks the previously bowed instrument and the male singer concludes in a speaking voice. Their costuming is also fantastic for the music. Although I can’t vote for it, I’m sure people will get a kick out of it, it is truly very original. I saw from looking them up that they are scheduled to play at Red Rocks Ampitheatre in Colorado, in October (if it doesn't get rescheduled, of course, with covid), that is probably the most spectacular outdoor venues in the country, what a show that would be. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 06:26
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Finally, some time to give you something for the week-end... and to start listening to all these promising suggestions. Thanks Anders for this theme! Not that I'm that much of a Folk listener, but there are always interesting things to listen to and to discover... My suggestions... The first is from an artist who lives not far from my place, and I had the pleasure to see him live: he has a habit every - non-covid - year to invite some friends and play in a small chapel nearby his village (and an hour drive from mine...). First starting off with a meal between the vineyards and the sound of cicadas, these are quite intimate (80 to 100 seats) concerts, with a beautiful acoustics of the Chapel that lends itself very well to his music... Piers Faccini - Broken Mirror (from the album Between Dogs and Wolves): Next, two from the same band, which I discovered last year or two years ago. We're in the realm of folktronica, I guess. I very much like the sound of this band, the acoustic and electronic instruments, their voices, their lyrics (and humour)... Hope you will like them too. Tunng - Woodcat (from the album Comments of the Inner Chorus): And from their last years' album, with the uplifting theme and title Dead Club: Tunng - Death is the New Sex ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 08:05
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The Woodcat one doesn't work for me. Is this one fine? |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 08:44
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I haven't done this in a while. I have started a full playlist. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6F855gheCJDlDL9bbsgVKR" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6F855gheCJDlDL9bbsgVKR |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 10:15
No, not really. Strangely it is 40s shorter, cutting the instrumental intro, which is a shame (probably for radio-play reasons....). Does this one work? ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 11:10
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Yes, plays fine! |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 11:50
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Many great folk bands and songs...several of my favorites... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 12:00
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^^ Thanks Lewian for confirming and thanks George for having already updated the playlist (and for the playlist itself, of course) - faster than lightning!  I had a first listen to most of the music suggested here and it was a great listen, indeed. Will comment on them tomorrow, giving myself a second listen to all these pearls... In the mean time, and out of competition, especially for those who still don't know Flairck - one of those great Dutch bands that exported quite well, with The Nits and Golden Earring, of course; and Kayak to a lesser extent. To my surprise they are listed on PA... I saw them a couple of times live and that is where they really shine. So, here a little sample live from German television - don't miss out on their scenic prowess at the end of the clip! Flairck - Tango: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 15:17
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This was an oddly difficult category for me. While I have an immense amount of folk music in my library, nearly every tune I considered for nomination is not available on YouTube. (Many are not available, period, now that CD Baby has closed its online shop.) I did find a few. Here are two. From Hungary, Vasmalom, "Hejtok Lányok." (Assume this is my nomination unless I state otherwise later.) And now to test the definition of "folk" music, here's Floating Cloud with a tune from a Japanese video game transformed into something like an Irish air, albeit with an erhu instead of a fiddle, "月見酒 (Tsukimi Sake)." Is this folk, or close enough? |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 16:20
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Also wonderful prog folk would not be represented enough without this, which will be out of competition. I waited to see if someone was going to bring them in, in case anyone here is not familiar. Pentangle and all of their solo/other groupings projects were one of my major introductions to folk music being presented in a different way (as well as The US Kaleidoscope). This is a long one, but you get to kind of hear everyone in it and it's a typical folk song of it's type. "Jack Orion," by The Pentangle.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 18:06
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Recently I've been listening to a lot of folk (prog or otherwise), so I'd like to contribute to this poll after a long absence. If I may, I'll think about a submission during the weekend - it shouldn't take too long! Nickie, great choice
 ! "Jack Orion" is a masterpiece from one of my favourite bands. On a related note, I've recently discovered a great site about English folk, which includes very thorough info on all the traditional songs (something I've always been interested in), as well as complete discographies of classic and modern artists. Here it is: https://www.mainlynorfolk.info/folk/" rel="nofollow - https://www.mainlynorfolk.info/folk/ |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 18:14
 ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 18:16
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Here is my first take so far on Page Two: Also, yes, thank you to George for deciding to collect all of the tracks! suitkees:
Piers Faccini “Broken Mirror”
Very dreamy sound to this, in the vein of Nick Drake. Very subdued production with tinkly sounds,
bits of strings and a very ghostly vocals, with a female voice harmonizing near
the end. Very lovely piece. Tungg “Woodcat” Another very quiet piece with finger-picked
acoustic guitar, this one is doubling the vocals as the singer relates a
stream-of-consciousness reminiscence of a time past with a girl…but this one
begs for an enchantment to bring them back together, as other creatures, and a
girl voice does indeed join in near the end with him…did the enchantment
work? Perhaps. Followed by another one from Tunng, “Death is
the New Sex” This one starts with a
different style of picked electric guitar, a pounding pulse and embellishments
from keys. Much darker than the
previous, lyrically, as one could guess from the title. The same female vocalist supports his vocal,
in a kind of ISB whispery voice. A
cautionary tale, it would seem to me, it has an almost ironic upbeat feel to
the keyboards, with whangs added as the song comes to an end, echoing the
“windows rattle,” line in the lyrics. Out
of competition, Flairck “Tango” Live
performance with double necked acoustic guitar, violin, cello Such a beautiful
melody begins this piece, starring the violinist. The music increases in intensity, then pan
pipes are added and picks up the pace a bit, with the violin now being plucked
for a moment, then gradually becomes fiery in earnest with congas and the violin
once again starring. Drops back to the
pan flutes as the guitar and cello keep the rhythm going. dr Wu23: Was really looking forward to what you’d bring, since I knew you’d know some good ones for this. Espers I’ve only heard once before, so taking it as new to my ears, also have heard The Albion Band, but not enough and not this one, so you’re in to the running this time! Espers “Rosemary Lane” I’m familiar with the tune from Bert Jansch’s version. A really beautiful, wistful version of this folk song, one of the “cautionary tales,” type. Lovely arrangement with strings and a delicate female vocal, as well as guitars. Shirley Collins & The Albion Band “Murder of Maria Marten” Another wonderful, rustic folk cautionary tale type song with acoustic and electric guitars, drums, fiddle and hurdy-gurdy…Shirley Collins has a great “village,” voice, as I call it). Richard Thompson plays electric guitar here (I had to look and see if it was him, sure sounded like him 😊 ). This one has several sections, similar to “Jack Orion,” which I posted just for fun. Dando Shaft “In The Country” This begins with flutes, guitar and mild percussion, also is a pastoral-feeling piece (fitting with the title). Lilting flute solo and fluttering guitars with a sort of free-form set of lyrics, sung by a male vocalist. This one is also a fine example of the British folk scene of the 1970’s and one I’d never heard. Tancos: Vasmalom "Hejtok Lányok." Couldn’t find a translation for the lyrics, but this begins with flutes and a twangy sort of stringed instrument. Female vocalist sings a lilting tune, not sure what the stringed instrument is, a mandolin or mandola of some sort, or if you know, I am always interested to know new instruments. This piece has a very “village,” sound to me, something I think of as being sung in a village as women are doing their chores etc. Floating Cloud “ 月見酒 (Tsukimi Sake)." Love the opening notes of the violin-ish instrument, which I would say is certainly very folky to my ear. Harp joins in, this is so delicate and just perfect ear candy to me. The music goes back and forth between the harp and the violin. Haunting and melancholy, what a lovely thing it is. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 05:43
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Well, I realized that I had already suggested a bunch of folk or folk-inspired songs for the previous editions of this poll - so I had to think of something different. Not sure how well known this song might be, but it is so incredibly beautiful that I felt the need to include it as my first suggestion: |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 05:53
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My short take on all suggestions (so far): Logan: Mark Fry brings us The Witch who puts a psychedelic spell over the folk music. Sitar dominated with some acoustic guitar and flute sparsly interwoven and a trance inducing percussion characterize this song with its eery vocals. Typical early 70s and very atmospheric - quite nice! Cristi: Nice to put up three Romanian artists/bands, and they're all three quite good to my ears. Valeriu Sterian combines acoustic and electric guitars and a modest percussion to deliver his song. It gives it almost a pop-rock quality in folk-disguise. Phoenix start off very electric (you would expect a rock song...) before the acoustic guitar puts in its melody. Electric guitar and bass keep on a very minimalist rythm until it becomes more rock indeed just to fade out... Wonderful, but clearly a part of a greater whole. Nicu Alifantis must have been popular in his country: beautiful and emotional voice and great songwriting, here packed in that typical late 70s synthy-orchestral arrangements. Makes it a bit dated, maybe, but I like it very much. For me it is between him and Phoenix... jamesbaldwin: Adriano Celentano brings us a typical 60s song, which does not much to me. Then three great artists that need no introduction but are always great to hear... I never really plunged into the music of Stormy Six. This is a nice selection. The vocals were always their weak part, to my ears, but their music always intriguing. It has some chamber folk quality (and some Nino Rota influences?) that sometimes leans more to avant, indeed. From these three it is especially Il barbiere that stands out for me: fascinating and captivating (and the singing is OK, I'll get used to it...) TCat: The Low Anthem will get the prize for the best animated clip: beautiful stop-motion! The song is a very delicate one: guitar-voice, some backing vocals and sounds and a harmonica to complete this saddening song. Beautiful. Amzing Blondel bring us a 70s orchestral and pastoral song (flute, vocals, guitar, orchestra...). It sounds nice, but I'm waiting for something spectacular to happen, which doesn't come... Fovea Hex surprise me much more with this minimalist eery piece of music. Heavily leaning on the vocals and some instrumental backing (cello, electronics?) before the percussion sets in modestly making us listen in devotion... Fleet Foxes start off very up-tempo, slow down and settle us in a very pleasant song, recognizably American folk, great melodies and playing. Difficult to make a choice from these, but I think I'm most surprised by Fovea Hex. Snicolette: First the beautiful voice of Connie Dover accompanied by some other layered vocals and synths for an orchestral quality. Brings me to the landscapes of Ireland... Very nice. Faun brings us to the Middle Ages, with everything that we can expect, except maybe for that beat that puts me of. A pity, because for the rest - singing, instrumentation and playing - it is quite good. Then a trip to Galicia with Milladoiro. A beautiful voice again accompanied by harp (yes!) and some other traditional instruments that could keep us in medieval territories, but the singing and playing are much more modern to my ears. This is my preferred one! Lewian: Opa Cupa bring us almost a kind of brass balkan rock, with some jazz outings and an awful disco-dance-beat. Great playing, wonderful singing, and if that beat could have been different it would convince me... Solarference is more to my liking, very intriguing. And great to watch them putting this "laptop folk" together. Great vocal harmonies/canon and a very modern take on folk - definetely a contender. Now, Heilung... Yes, what is this? Something very tribal and ritualistic. After seven minutes I want them to explode, but no... A cry, yes, but just to set in the eery voice and sacrify us to whatever nature-god it may be. Intriguing, but not something I would return to... The Anders: Väsen are very surprising with what they deliver with just three string instruments. Great playing and that nyckelharpa is an intriguing instrument... Nice to see them play together - they're clearly very accomplished musicians (and I love the rabbit!). A very good surprise this! dr wu23: Esper's take on Rosemary Lane is quite nice, modest but at the same time very rich in its instrumentation accompanying the delicate voice. Enchanting in a way. After this Shirley Collins & The Albion Band sound almost a bit conventional. And I'm not really fan of her singing. I prefer Dando Shaft and this pastoral and typical British folk; they create an interesting atmosphere in this song with all its diversity. Tancos: Vasmalom offer an intriguing take on traditional music that sounds quite modern on this track. Makes me think a bit of Flairck, with the singing added... A bit jazzy by moments, playful and quite captivating. Floating Cloud indeed sounds as if they have imported Irish folk into Japan. It's sounds nice but there is not much evolution in this track, to my ears. I definetely prefer Vasmalom. Raff: I heard of Fotheringay, but never heard much of their music. This one starts off in delicacy with the singing and acoustic guitar conveying a sense of melancholy, before it slowly evolves with a richer instrumentation without loosing that fragile quality of the song. Just beautiful! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 06:57
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folk music?? man.. talk about a genre even more varied and vast than prog itself... and that is only talking about American folk music which obviously is the wellspring of so much of 20th century popular music. since Raff piped in I'll do the same.. thought about posting some great prewar 'folk' but that isn't what most think of as folk.. so I'll go more traditional.. some dude/dudess with a geetar singing protest social consious sh*t haha and with a voice like his.. hard to top him... that said.. he is still and will be forever known as the author of the greatest barfly song ever written.. Micky tested.. Micky approved.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 07:26
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Another couple of suggestions - this time from bands that are not on PA (Fotheringay are in Prog-Related). The first one is probably rather well-known, as it was recorded by one of the top bands of the Eighties, and was quite successful when it was released as a single in 1989. The folk connection here is in the music, which comes from the traditional Irish ballad "She Moves Through the Fair" (which was recorded by a whole lot of people): The second one is way more upbeat than my previous suggestions. The band in question is yet another Cardiacs offshoot, featuring the ubiquitous Kavus Torabi, and the song comes from their album of sea shanties by the very literary title of Upon a Painted Ocean: |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 10:57
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Raff and Micky, it's great to see you back. Raff, your 2nd selection shows unavailable for me. I know the song title, but if you give me the name of the aritst, I will look and see if there is an alternate that I can listen to. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 10:58
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Thanks to both Nickie and Kees for your very insightful and helpful comments. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 11:47
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Enjoying this one. Some great selections. It's going to be tough to vote on. Nice variety. I don't listen to or have much folk music in my library, but not because I don't enjoy. I'm going to take advantage of the breadth offered by The Anders and go with music with folk elements here. So, let's take a trip around the world. First up is James Holden and the Animal Spirits. Holden was a student at Oxford studying mathematics who turned to DJing and being a techno artist/producer. For his third album, he took an more organic sound incorporating elements of psyche, prog, and folk, among others. This is the appropriately titled "Spinning Dance". Next, we go across the pond to the Bay Area for the Tin Hat Trio (now just Tin Hat since they expanded from being a trio). They are filed on PA under RIO/Avant-Prog and classified as Chamber Jazz by AllMusic. They play acoustic with elements of contemporary music, jazz, blues, folk, and whatever else they want. Founding member and violinist Carla Kihlstedt was also a founding member of the excellent (but different) Sleepytime Gorilla Music (also RIO/Avant-Prog on PA). Here, I'll offer a couple of tracks from the album Helium, one instrumental and the other with unmistakable guest vocals from Tom Waits. "Width of the World" "Helium Reprise" Then, let's jet on over to Japan for Hanafugestu. I've posted a track by them before, many months ago, but as 'bonus' track. File this as Japanese Pop Folk. The trio consists of a shakuhachi (bamboo flute) player, koto player and singer/pianist. "Crimson" Next stop is Italy with a track by Unfolk, the moniker for Venetian mandolin player/multi-instrumentalist Alessandro Monti. This track is from the concept album "Book of the Venetian Dead" about vinyl factory pollution in the 70's and 80's leading to cancer in Venice. He collaborates on this one with British singer/songwriter Kevin Hewick whose career goes back to the 80s and Factory Records. This track has a decidedly 80's feel with Hewick's vocals reminding me of some solo Peter Murphy. "Bedroom Discotheque" Lastly, we head back to the Bay Area and then head on to Tuva. Wasn't planning on this one, but it turned up on my random shuffle as I was typing this. I have recommended the move "Genghis Blues" somewhere on PA before. It's a documentary about a blind blues musician Paul Pena, who self-teaches himself Tuvan throat singing. He then is invited to compete in a throat singing competition and the movie is about that trip and competition. Excellent movie. This is from the soundtrack. A bluesish number with throat singing. Paul is the deeper throat. "Tuva Farewell" |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 11:51
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 11:53
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Thoughts on the latest entries: Raff: Fotheringay with Sandy Denny, “Banks of the
Nile” One of the best showcases for Sandy,
who is one of my favourite female singers of all time, wonderful choice for
those who may not know of her. Known to
me, so I can’t vote for it, BUT…..this is very haunting and as gorgeous as only
Sandy Denny can decorate a song. The instrumentation
supports her vocals perfectly, as should be.
It is stellar, we are lucky to have what recordings we have of hers, for
as you know, her life was tragically short.
For those of you who don’t know of her, she is well worth seeking out,
with this collaboration, her solo works and also with Fairport Convention and
very early Strawbs. Simple Minds “Belfast
Child” What a beautiful rendition of
this classic Celtic song. I had not
heard this, it is just so very moving, with Jim Kerr’s deep voice and the
violin ornamentation and orchestral swell behind in the mix. Electric guitar
joins as the song gains in intensity, and then the song slows and fades to a
close. Admirals Hard “Whip Jamboree/Let
The Bulgine Run” This is done is a sea
shanty, with concertina played on keys, it looks like and multiple voices,
pipes (also on keys, it appears) and a steady strummed guitar. There
is a hurdy-gurdy also in the visuals, it just comes in in small parts here and
there and then near the end, there is a longer lead played upon it. This is a great sing-along type song with a
repeating chorus. Micky: Nice to see you back, too! Gordon Lightfoot “Black Day In July” This one I know also, as you probably guessed, but I am a GL fan. This has his superb voice with a sort of blend of folk and country instrumentation. This one tells the tale of race riots in Detroit in 1967, a time I remember well, and sadly, am still seeing to this day. A moving topical piece that could still be covered, especially with a few modern updates on the lyrics. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 11:55
Thank you for your thoughts on these, suitkees (and your acceptance of my so-much-harp in my various entries). I find that Milladoiro piece very haunting, it is one of my favourite songs. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 12:18
If you mean the second video in my post, the band's name is Admirals Hard. Their album is also on Bandcamp.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 14:29
Sorry, my bad. I meant your 2nd selection "She Moves Through the Fair" which would have been your first video in your 2nd post...the one you posted above the Admirals Hard video.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 14:41
That's Simple Minds, "Belfast Child".
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 07:00
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My second contribution is a modern take on a traditional Danish folk song. The so-called 'folkeviser' (German: Volksweisen, English: folk ballads) are songs that have been taught from generation to generation, so no-one knows who actually wrote them in first place. Of course they have changed a lot over time. They are typically strophic and have a narrative structure of some sorts. Most of them were written down in the 16th and 19th Centuries. "Bonden og elverpigen" (The peasant and the elf girl) was written down by N.F.S. Grundtvig some time in the 19th Century if I remember correctly, but its origin is obviously a lot older. Sorten Muld have made a name out of modernizing these old folk songs by mixing electronic sounds with more traditional folk instruments, a bit like the Swedish/Finnish band Hedningarna. The recording is from 1997. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 10:56
Thanks. That's actually a favorite of mine. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 12:05
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And here, my final contribution; this time we go to Greece. It's from a CD of tradtional songs from the Greek islands. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 13:23
Thanks for your always very keen comments. Perhaps what you have identified as an Italian way of singing (Italianate sound) depends on the fact that both Adriano Celentano and the Stormy Six are from Milan. Milan is in northern Italy, and the Milanese have an accent that has an inflection that comes in part from France. In central and southern Italy there is a great variety of dialects and inflections, Italy having been a land of passage, colonized by many peoples. The first song, The boy from via Gluck, is sung with a strong Milanese accent, the singing is precisely cadenced in order to make the Milanese speech heard. 623 / 5000 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 13:29
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 13:49
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My next (and probably final) contribution is a song from Naples with an American connection. Though more recent than most of the material recorded by Nuova Compagnia di Canto Popolare - an ensemble that has been active for over 50 years - this song, written in 1944, is very well-known in Italy, and has its roots in the dire situation of the country at the end of WWII. Based on a true story, the song is about a boy born with dark skin - the child of a Neapolitan woman and a Black American GI. When I was in high school, the band came to perform at my school, and I still remember how much fun we had, dancing and singing along to their music. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 16:53
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Oh, I remember... I have something Danish to play actually... some friends of mine try (tried... before C.  ) to get tickets for whoever plays in Hamburg's marvellous new Elbphilharmonie (which is normally sold out within minutes but they have some talent to see where something can be snatched), and they got to see the Danish String Quartet playing their folk based Wood Work album there and were mesmerised. And they played the album to me, and I was, too. Sonderho Bridal Trilogy Part II.Here's the Elbphilharmonie... It took much longer to build and was much more expensive than planned and people were up in arms against this "waste of money" - but since it's ready, everybody loves it.  |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 17:25
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The Elbphilharmonie somehow makes me think of those paper hats from Burger King... |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 22 2021 at 13:20
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First thoughts on Page 3 thus far, plus some additions: George: James Holden & The Animal Spirits
“Spinning Dance” Begins with some guitar
washes and finger cymbals, then goes into a happy swash of keyboards
underneath, as the guitar swells in and out.
Guitar begins to play a more forceful lead and drums kick in. This is all done in a very quiet way, in
terms of the production. There begin to
emerge the sounds of chanting-type voices, really intriguing wriggly bits of
keyboards and guitars interplay, there are sounds of either very controlled
feedback or perhaps violin-type strings and whistle-type sounds, with some more
inter-layered vocalishness. Very
excellent spacey folkishness here. Tin
Hat Trio “Width of the World” Repeating
bass line starts and some almost-sitarish bended guitar notes. There is a keyboard underneath at times for
depth, it sounds like, or perhaps a bowed instrument or accordion, as the sound
becomes more pronounced. There is a
Delta blues-ish or Cajun nod here, as well, in the guitar style. This sounds much more like an accordion or
concertina now, as you can hear the reeds parts and the glisses on the keyboard
more clearly. This instrument goes off
into a jam with the other instruments.
Now a bowed instrument enters the room, jamming along with everyone
else. This has become almost a
raga/Cajun piece, reminiscent of Kaleidoscope to my ear, then it returns back
to slow and slide-y before slowly fading.
Followed by “Helium Reprise, also by the Tin Hat Trio: This one begins with an almost Betty Boop
sliding violin sound, but quickly turns the plucked fiddly sounds and the
unmistakable voice of Tom Waits. There
are small blats of horns as well, that punctuate the piece. The concertina/accordion comes back in after
some percussive clinks and an almost African-sounding plucked, stringed
instrument. Horns come in and wander
about with everyone else, I can just see Tom sitting on a stool at the bar,
observing it all. May I interrupt this message and say that I thought the last
one was difficult. This one is in it’s
own stratosphere, as far as voting, with everyone’s entries! And continuing with George: Hanafugestu “Crimson” Very pretty music from a Japanese ensemble,
playing traditional instruments, shakuhatchi and koto, as well as piano with a
lilting-voiced singer….all in traditional garb as well. There is certainly a strong element of
classical Japanese music, with the instrumentation….and combining the lovely
voice of the female singer in a more modern style. Very light in feel, it would seem the subject
is a happy one. Unfolk “Bedroom
Discotheque” Song starts with low notes
on guitar, supported by drums and bass. Male singer in very 80’s style. There are some nice cello or violin
embellishments. The song uses imagery of
turntable speeds, melting wax and lists various styles of popular music in the
lyrics. Yes, he DOES sound like Peter
Murphy a bit, now that I’m reading what you said. “Tuva Farewell,” from Genghis Blues
soundtrack, with Paul Pena. I enjoy some
of the tuva music that I’ve heard. I’m
not a fan of modern “growling,” which this resembles, but it’s authentic here,
for some reason it always sounds contrived when I hear it from metal/prog
outfits. This combines a traditional
American folk sound from the main singer, his guitar and maybe a slide guitar
or dobro?, with the addition of a tuva singer.
Really a fun piece, the tuva singer underneath the guitars and such
sounds a bit like a jaw harp. Looked him
up, what an interesting and tragic life. The Anders: Sorten Muld “Bonden og Elverpigen”
Keyboards and percussion begin the song, then a dulcet female voice
joins in. String sounds are added with a
whispered vocal underpinning the main vocal.
There is then some violin (or is it nyckelharpa?) and flute-type sounds,
along with another back vocal, kind of scatting along. The piece fades out similar to the way it
began. Pervolargia “Garden” Lovely Greek piece with violin, probably
bouzouki and an instrument that sounds like a kanun or santur. Female singer, apparently Stella Marnelaki,
from what I’m able to gather looking about online. Sounds Greek to me! I enjoyed this, I’ve always loved going to
Greek festivals here in the US and love Greek food, as well as the music,
although I don’t know as much about their traditional instruments as I do
Middle Eastern. Wonderful addition. Lewian: The Danish String Quartet “Sonderho Bridal
Trilogy Part II” I love string quartets.
This piece begins in an uplifting way and feel, with undertones of
sentimentalism. It quickly moves off
into a more spirited mode, repeating the main melody, but with more emphasis on
the upbeat feeling. It drops into a
thoughtful portion as the song slowly comes to a fade, with the final notes
being the melody played solo. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 22 2021 at 13:20
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 22 2021 at 13:53
I think there may be a cimbalom.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 22 2021 at 14:26
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Thank you! I know lots of people who play Middle Eastern music will also play Greek styled music at times, as so many of the instruments have similarities. The way they approach these kinds of sounds differ from each other so that you can tell which style it is in....also many will play Flamenco and Gitano types of music. I love them all! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 22 2021 at 14:48
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Shadowyzard Blind Guardian: Folk music and hard rock / metal is not a rare combination, but while the vocals move towards hard rock screaming towards the end, the metal sound I expected at the beginning does not come. But surprises are nice, and I really like the song. The second track reminds me a bit of it melodically. The visual performance is a bit over-the-top to my taste (especially with the big guy with the bass drum). I like it musically, but I clearly prefer the first one. Logan Mark Fry - The Witch: I think I have heard it before (the melody right at the beginning makes me think of "Mother Sky" by Can). It's rather dark and 'noir'ish with its hypnotic and monotonous arrangement. Cristi The first song (Cantec de oameni) starts in the Mixolydian mode with acoustic instruments - which later reappears in the outro, leaving the song in a dreamy and thoughtful mood. The biggest attraction for me is however the guitar work throughout the song. It is really great, but I also like the composition and the vocal harmonies. Phoenix starts with some quite heavy guitar work (which, funnily enough, is also Mixolydian). Then enters an acoustic guitar figure im the right channel. Again the feeling is quite dream-like. There are also some ooh's, and towards the end, a drumbeat sets in, but then the song fades out. The final song (Nicu alifantis) has a melancholic Mediterranean tone to its melody, but the folk elements are counterpointed by some synthesizers. Good composition, and I sense the words have quite a lot of weight - especially as there is recitation towards the end. jamesbaldwin Adriano Celentano: Il ragazzo della via Gluck is more in the style of mid 60's pop to my ears. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing, just an observation. But to be honest it is not a type of music that really appeals to me. But maybe there is some lyrical content to be aware of? TCat The Low Anthem - "Charlie Darwin" is a melancholic guitar ballad (is the guitar tuned down a bit, or is it recorded at a high speed and then slowed down? - it sounds a bit that way). Normally I am not fond of falsetto singing, but here I actually think it fits the song well. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 03:46
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...and a quick follow-up on the rest of the suggestions: micky: If I would have a model in mind of what American folk music would sound like it could be this song by Gordon Lightfoot. Great singing and great playing, and the way both the guitar and the drums convey the tension of the situation is wonderful. Great choice! Raff: Belfast Child, this is actually from the only album (Street Fighting Years) from Simple Minds that I have, and a great album it is, including this song: they have appropriated the traditional Irish folk music and incorporated it in their own style of pop-rock in a very powerful way. Engaging! With Admirals Hard we're going at sea in a very up-tempo and festive manner. The music may not be the most original, but the playing is tight and the vocal harmonies are beautiful (and I like the way how they exploit the extreme wide angle lens for the filming of this clip!). The Nuova Compagnia di Canto Popolare remain more traditional in their performance, musically speaking, but they make it very engaging, especially through their singing. Fotheringay still top all of these though, for me. mathman: Nice round-trip! Yes, with James Holden & The Animal Spirits we definitely go into more psychedelic territory; makes me think of some of The Grateful Dead. Very nice. Then two by Tin Hat (Trio or more...): first we wander away on the Width of the World with an intimate kind of contemporary saloon-folk - very cinematic. On Helium Reprise there is more accent on the contemporary aspect of the music without loosing the cinematic quality. Love the way the accordion is used on both of these tracks. Crimson doesn't grab me as much as the previous suggestions. There is nothing not to like in it, great melodies from the different instruments and the singing, but it is not really sticking with me once it's over. Unfolk, with Bedroom Discothèque, leaves a similar impression: a very pleasant song, great arrangements, some very nice vocal harmonies, but it doesn't leave a big impression either. A farewell to your selections with Tuva Farewell, interesting blues-folk mixed with Tuvan singing, which works quite well, but his own singing brings this on a much higher level. Very interesting, but my personal favourite of yours is Width of the World by Tin Hat Trio. The Anders: Sorten Muld bring us a kind of soothing traditional which builds up through its rich arrangements. Nice production but maybe a bit to smooth for my ears? The Greek traditional conveys more emotion, imo. Musically we're indeed in more traditional territory regarding the playing. I'm more on a holiday trip than with the previous one, but at the same time it is not very challenging either. The song you put up by Väsen is by far my preferred one. Lewian: I saw a documentary about the architecture of the Elbphilarmonie - quite impressive building and the acoustics of the auditorium seems to be exceptional! The Danish String Quartet are less impressive than the architecture of the building to my ears; nice but a bit short, so I probably need to see/hear them live over there... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 07:11
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Always love to read your comments on the suggestions, thanks! Wish I had more time to write some... |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 08:34
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I was just about to say the same, re suitkees way of reviewing the music. Very appreciated! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 09:10
You're right. In Italy It's an historycal song. Maybe the first one written with the approach of an American storyteller. And with an ecological aim, that is clear on the original video Here's to you the original video: IL RAGAZZO DELLA VIA GLUCK (THE BOY FROM GLUCK STREET) This is the story Of one of us he was born by chance in via Gluck In a house, outside the city Quiet people who worked Where there was the grass now there is a city And that house in the open fields Where will it be? This boy from Gluck Street He enjoyed playing with me But one day he said I'm going to town And he said it while he was crying I ask him: "My friend Aren't you happy? You're finally going to town There you will find the things you didn't get here You can wash yourself at home without going Down in the courtyard" "My dear friend", he said, "I was born On this street, I'll leave my heart here How can't you understand? It is a lucky thing for who are staying here, Barefoot, playing in the meadows. While there in the center I breathe the cement But there will come a day when I will come back here And I'll hear my friend the train That whistles like that: "Uah, uah"" Years go by But eight are long But that boy has come a long way But he doesn't forget his first home Now with the money he can buy it He comes back and doesn't find the friends he had Only houses upon houses Tar and cement Where there was the grass now there is A city, ah And that house in the open fields Where will it be? I don't know, I don't know Why do they continue To build the houses? And they don't leave the grass They don't leave the grass They don't leave the grass They don't leave the grass Well no If we go on like this, who knows How will it be done Who knows Who knows How will it turn out ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 11:22
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@Nickie and Lewian: Thanks, you make me blush... Mine are just superficial impressions and not always very informative, but I'm glad you appreciate them. As I appreciate them from everyone too. I also like how Anders sometimes introduces musical terms that explain a bit more why some pieces sound so intriguing and/or original (I had to look up the "Mixolydian mode" - I only hear there is something interesting going on, but could not pinpoint it nor imagine there was a word for it... )... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 11:41
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 11:45
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^ But they're so eloquent! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 11:46
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 12:34
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 14:39
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First thoughts on the additions from Cristi: Mircea Baniciu “Scrisoare de bun ramas” Begins with gentle guitar and cymbals. Light keyboards support the equally gentle
male vocalist, with drums kicking in softly behind and also soft electric
guitar. I really like the sound of this
one, a bit melancholy and now I see in translated lyrics, that it is so. The melody is beautiful. This is my favourite of yours, this time. Phoenix “Strunga” A sort of pan flute opens this one with an
ominous, somewhat menacing vocal and strummed guitar with bass. No crossing these guys’ lands! Nice, psych-style lead guitar joins in ¾ through
and the singer is joined with other voices in harmony as the tune fades
away. Nicu Alifantis “Trecea un om” This one has some flute and a more sing-songy
vocal, with some discordant bits of some sort of stringed instrument, can’t
quite figure out what it is, it creates an interesting effect together. Flutters of flute come in, under the vocal as
the song picks up pace a bit. An
acoustic lead guitar comes in, the song seems very full of thought to me, like
we are eavesdropping on this man’s thoughts.
My favourite thing about this one when the plinky unknown stringed
instrument comes in at the various times that it does. It has a cinematic feel to me. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 15:21
Actually my "you" was ambigous and my appreciation was meant to go to all of you Nicky, The Anders, suitkees!
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 15:51
Actually my "you" was ambigous and my appreciation was meant to go to all of you Nicky, The Anders, suitkees! [/QUOTE] Good clarification. I know not everyone has time or inclination to respond in any sort of length to the entries, but I do enjoy reading them, any and all that have done so.------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 24 2021 at 12:33
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Snicolette "Siuil A Ruin" has some really interesting vocal harmonies in the chorus, especially with the phrasings. In the verses it gets a bit new age-like to my taste, especially with the soft strings. But I really enjoy the chorus. Faun - "Federkleid" begins with a tin whistle (I think - it also appears in the previous song), but the song is more rhythmic. A bit too feel-good like for my taste tbh. "Estrelina Do Lucero" starts with a harp. The vocal performace is more neutral, and the track is clearly my favourite among those three. Lewian Opa Cupa - Pompei is quite a surprising style combination between folk and "music conservatory funk". The latter dominates the instrumentation while the singing and melody is clearly folkish. The combination works surprisingly well. Solarference is another interesting combination. Obviously in the area of folktronica, but they clearly have their own interpretation of the term. Sampler and acoustic guitar. Very interesting song. Reminds me a bit of an Australian project called Clue to Kalo. TCat (continued) The Amazing Blondel - "Seascapes" sounds like something that could have been released in the 1970's. Must be based on some British folk music tradition. Great vocal harmonies. Interesting with the orchestral arrangement. Fovea Hex - "You Were There" has some very delicions backing vocals. Harmonically it is based on the Dorian mode. There's a drone in the bottom which - among the drums that come in later - makes me think of Indian music. Fleet Foxes - "Ragged Wood": And now for something completely different. It sounds more American to me. Fine song, but I like the other two a lot better.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 24 2021 at 12:46
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 24 2021 at 15:26
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Before I won't have the occasion to communicate it, my nomination is: Tunng - Woodcat ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 24 2021 at 16:46
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jamesbaldwin (continued) Bruce Springsteen - Johnny 99. I have only listened sporadically to the Nebraska album. The songs I did know were more low-key; this one sounds more like a demo for a song on one of his E-street Band albums. It has a touch of rockabilly (there is even added echo to the vocal track). Even though I appreciate the minimalist approach on the album, I feel this particular song would be better off with his band. But in general I am not that much of a Bruce Springsteen fan. John Hiatt Mr. Stanley (2000) is in the blues area, and I personally like it a lot better. I like its free use of irregular rhythm, and actually I think I prefer blues music this way. It appeals more to me than electric blues. Johnny Cash: Like The 309 (2006): More American folklore sound here, and as usually Mr. Cash adds a hell lot of autenticity with his down-to-earth vocal performance. It would surely had been a contender for my votes had it been in the competition. Stormy Six: Arrivano gli americani (Americans are coming) starts in a rather gloomy mood with some rather sinister and interesting chord changes. Then there's a sudden change of mood with the dance-like chorus, but we're soon back to the ominous. There's also a touch of cabaret to it. I like this a lot. Very interesting composition, and not without humour. Il barbiere (The Barber) sounds almost Zappa-ish with its complex rhythmic and tonal structure. Love the pling plong sound of it. When the vocals set in, it turns into a march. Once again the chord changes are quite out there, and as such very much up my alley. Towards the end there is some really great guitar work. Le Lucciole (The Fireflies) uses clarinets - which is almost grotesque in the context, and I mean that positively. More pling plong sounds from circa 3:30. Around 4:30 there comes a friggin' fugue. Another very interesting track, but I think I like the other two better. I admit I had not heard of this band, but it is definitely worth checking out. A strong contender for my part.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 24 2021 at 18:04
@The Anders happy to hear your words.... My nomination is STORMY SIX: Il barbiere ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 24 2021 at 18:12
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Fovea Hex will be my nomination for voting. I'm happy to see the love for this band. Clodagh Simonds (who was with a folk band "Mellow Candle" back in the 60's) is the main vocalist and she also sang on Mike Oldfield's "Ommadawn" and "Hergest Ridge" albums. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 24 2021 at 18:35
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I think I am going to go with Milladoiro's, "Estreliña Do Luceiro." I find it very haunting and unlike anything else. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 11:58
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@The Anders Vasen: Ipa-Gubben This instrumental piece is not a song, it is a chamber folk piece, with aspirations for cultured music. I like the sound of the three instruments very much, after all I am a lover of pure acoustic sound, the real, musical one, and only in certain cases I really love artificial sounds too. That violin with the keys is interesting, and the musical score is of high quality, it creates an atmosphere of a Nordic saga with moments of virtuosity just hinted at, and an enjoyable crescendo of rhythm. In short, it is a small masterpiece. There are only two things I miss to make me enjoy like a hedgehog: a moment of pause, in which the music slows down, and where one of the three instruments stands out from the others; the sound of a human voice, I would say a woman (I remain a lover of the human voice, and in most cases I think the instrumental pieces would become even more beautiful if accompanied by the appropriate voice). If there were these things too, I would have gone to seventh heaven. So I stopped at ... sixth heaven, but this piece has a great chance of conquering the podium. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 12:53
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I nominate Nicu Alifantis - Mosul Iene |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 04:12
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I'll go with Sandy Denny/Fotheringay. You can't go wrong with such a beautiful song! |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 10:51
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The feedback winner out of mine is probably Solarference - Cold Blows the Wind, so that'll be my nomination. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 13:43
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Please notice that the voting will open on Monday. If I have missed a nomination, please let me know.
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Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 14:03
I would have thought this was clear enough, since I haven't posted again in this thread until now.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 15:29
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Hmmm....I'll nominate 'Rosemary Lane' by Espers. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 16:28
| I am still pondering on my nominee. I will decide sometime tomorrow. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 27 2021 at 06:13
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I apologize for not stating it more clearly at the beginning, but my song's title is "Banks of the Nile", and Fotheringay is the name of the band (fronted by Sandy Denny and her husband, Trevor Lucas) that performed it. The song "Fotheringay" by Fairport Convention was submitted for one of these polls a few months ago. |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: March 27 2021 at 06:47
I'll nominate Obscurus Orbis' song. I'll be editing my first post now.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 27 2021 at 07:20
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So the list is updated with what I know so far. Since Logan and Micky have both posted only one song, I assume these are their nominations. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 27 2021 at 07:35
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 27 2021 at 18:55
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I'm prone to impulse shopping when it comes to music, and so I am abandoning all my previous suggestions because I find this stunning. So my nomination is... Wu Fei & Abigail Washburn - "The Roving Cowboy / Avarguli" Two voices, two instruments, and two cultures. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 28 2021 at 16:02
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Lewian (continued) Heilung are using some pagan aesthetics (including what looks like rhunes), and their outfit is very "tribal". The soundscape is dominated by drums. The deep singing voices sound like a sort of mix between Rammstein and central Asian throat singing. I think I have heard them before. The beat gradually builds a tension until there's a break approximately halfway. The music then builds up again. The language sounds made-up. All in all very esoteric, but the music is absolutely not without interesting elements. suitkees Piers Faccini - Broken Mirror. Contains acoustic guitar and double bass, as well as violin and cello, and then some instruments that I can't recognize right away. Quite melancholic. I like it a lot. Tunng - Woodcat (I had to use one of the alternate links) is not worlds apart from the first one, again based on the acoustic guitar, but this time there are some electronic elements too (they file under folktronica after all). Once again I get associations to Clue to Kalo. Another great piece. Death is the New Sex is different with an electric guitar and more emphasis on electronic sounds, and it is not a soundscape I would normally associate with folk. The composition is clearly folkish though. The song appeals less to me than the other two. drwu 23 Espers - Rosemary Lane is obviously inspired by the British folk tradition (I get associations to Scarborough Fair). Just like that one, it is in the Dorian mode. From around 2:10 there is a sudden synthesizer coming in, sometimes playing out of key with the other instruments. Beautiful song. Shirley Collins and the Albion Band contains a rock beat, but there is also a violin. Harmonically it is once again in Dorian. Judging by the sound mix, I guess it is from the 1970's. Just before 2:00, there is a sudden change to a bagpipe drone and a different key. But then in 3:00 we're back to the previous. It sounds like it's based on a traditional folk ballad. 5:50 comes the bagpipe part again, but it appears to be the same melody as in the rock part. Then the song fades out with some sound effects. Dando Shaft: In the Country is in a very different mood, and it contains what sounds like some African drums. There's also a flute. The atmosphere is sort of impressionistic with its dominating maj7 chord. Very pleasant, but there's also a bit of melancholy to it.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 10:06
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The voting is open :) |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 10:56
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And just one more....George's final entry and choice for the nominees: Wu Fei
& Abigail Washburn “The Roving Cowboy/Avarguli” Begins with some beautiful guzheng strumming,
plucking, and string bending. Abigail joins in with her haunting voice and
an even more haunting Wu Fei harmonizes with her. Reminiscent of Fairport Convention’s, “Come
All Ye” (may be the same tune, but different lyrics). I’m guessing this is a blending of this
bluegrass/country/folk tune with another folk tune from Wu Fei’s
tradition. They trade back and forth and
end up with an almost chanted duet. If
more bluegrass were like this, it would be way higher on my typical listening
list. Just stunning, there is truly no
better word. I loved and highlighted so
many of yours this time, but this one does take the cake. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 11:30
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suitkees (continued) Flairck - Tango: I especially like the glissando notes on the violin. The slow melancholic parts work best for me. Tancos Vasmalom - Hejtok Lányok: I like how the verse is in 6/4 while the instrumental parts are not. The melodic pattern is also interesting. I can't recognize the wind instrument that appears f.e. around 3:30, but it is a flute of some sort of course. He is using overtones heavily. Floating Cloud starts with a string instrument I can't recognize. Then there's a harp of some sorts. To be honest, I find it a bit boring. Vasmalom was the right nomination for me. Snicolette (continued) Pentangle - Jack Orion: Seeing that it is 18 minutes long, I will skip this for now, considering the vast amount of music being posted here. But judging by the first seconds, which I actually heard, I am pretty sure I would like the rest of the track. Raff Fotheringay - Banks of the Nile: Another one coloured by the English folk tradtion, but it also has a strong singer/songwriter touch. Mixolydian again by the way. Very nice relaxed and thoughtful atmosphere which I really like, but the music gradually builds up. Great guitar work too, and I love the singing voice. Very "less is more"-like. Should be a contender. micky Lightfoot - Black Day in July: The soundscape brings us back to the late 60's or - at latest - early 70's. The melody is folkish, but the guitar work is more country-like. Is the song referring to the Detroit riots? |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 11:36
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |