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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Sure, but I think Neil evolved more quickly and sooner than people care to admit. I'd add Ginger Baker, too.

I agree, you only have to listen to FBN then CoS and hear the development of sounds and technique in a couple albums.

I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration.
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^That doesn't surprise me. Copeland played with traditional grip as opposed to Neil's matched grip. Neil swtiched it up later and played both ways but that was more because of Freddie Gruber's influence than Stewart's. Stewart was probably one of the best traditional grip drummers in rock though(over all). 

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration.

Ditto. I love his film scores, some of which he rearranged and released along with original material on his 1988 solo album The Equalizer & Other Cliff Hangers.
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^That doesn't surprise me. Copeland played with traditional grip as opposed to Neil's matched grip. Neil swtiched it up later and played both ways but that was more because of Freddie Gruber's influence than Stewart's. Stewart was probably one of the best traditional grip drummers in rock though(over all). 

Stew is one of the best rock drummers, period.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration.

Ditto. I love his film scores, some of which he rearranged and released along with original material on his 1988 solo album The Equalizer & Other Cliff Hangers.

Oh agree!! I love watching his stuff on YT in his home studio, he is such a hyper guy in interviews. LOL
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland.

As most musicians do.

Speaking of Phil Collins, I think you all will like this entry from Neil's old column.



What a wonderful read! He was always such a great writer as well...Cry
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For me only two albums stay with me 2112 and A FAREWELL TO THE KINGS. The rest are good but find doesn,t hold my attention like those two records.I rate them
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration.

Ditto. I love his film scores, some of which he rearranged and released along with original material on his 1988 solo album The Equalizer & Other Cliff Hangers.

Oh agree!! I love watching his stuff on YT in his home studio, he is such a hyper guy in interviews. LOL

Did you ever see the episode of Storage Wars where Barry Weiss goes to Stewart's home to ask a rather opportunistic favor of him? LOL

Unfortunately, the clip isn't on YouTube, and AETV wants you to register to watch it, but Barry "scores" a vintage Ludwig kit from a storage locker and takes it to Stewart, who immediately talks him out of the Zildjian ride cymbal for $40. After that, Barry asks Stew to sign AND date each piece of hardware so he can flip the kit! LOL



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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

What a wonderful read! He was always such a great writer as well...Cry

Indeed. So glad to have his books.

The one-year anniversary of Neil's passing is in four days. Cry
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I'm a big Stewart Copeland fan I think his style and composition is amazing, he is very musical. It was never a surprise to me when Neil mentions him as an inspiration.

Ditto. I love his film scores, some of which he rearranged and released along with original material on his 1988 solo album The Equalizer & Other Cliff Hangers.

Oh agree!! I love watching his stuff on YT in his home studio, he is such a hyper guy in interviews. LOL

Did you ever see the episode of Storage Wars where Barry Weiss goes to Stewart's home to ask a rather opportunistic favor of him? LOL

Unfortunately, the clip isn't on YouTube, and AETV wants you to register to watch it, but Barry "scores" a vintage Ludwig kit from a storage locker and takes it to Stewart, who immediately talks him out of the Zildjian ride cymbal for $40. After that, Barry asks Stew to sign AND date each piece of hardware so he can flip the kit! LOL

Oh no never seen that one!! We watch it on occasion......Barry is the dude!!
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Originally posted by grantman grantman wrote:

For me only two albums stay with me 2112 and A FAREWELL TO THE KINGS. The rest are good but find doesn,t hold my attention like those two records.I rate them
out of five.

Confused And yet in this thread (link below) you call yourself a die hard Rush fanboy.



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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland.

As most musicians do.

Speaking of Phil Collins, I think you all will like this entry from Neil's old column.



What a wonderful read! He was always such a great writer as well...Cry

Such a great article.......Neil was certainly born to write
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One year later.........Some details now coming out. Such a sad situation he could not spend all the time with his family that he yearned for.

"......Lee wasn’t surprised. “Knowing Neil the way I do,” he says, “and knowing that he knew how much time he had left, I think it was a natural thing for him to review the work of his life. And he was finding himself very proud of how he had spent a big chunk of his life. And he wanted to share that with Alex and I. Whenever we saw him, he wanted to talk about that. He wanted us to know that he was proud."




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PAS (Percussive Arts Society) Hall of Fame Class of 2020 video on Neil's inclusion.

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I've played Moving Pictures already today. I'll be playing more Rush tonight. Simply one of the greatest musicians of all time.
Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Got the album a farewell to the kings album at christmas when it came out all i ever heard before was IN THE MOOD on a ktel album called canada gold, so they are more or less my introduction to prog rock, then i brought 2112 the rest is history.A legendary band from my neck of the woods.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

One year later.........Some details now coming out. Such a sad situation he could not spend all the time with his family that he yearned for.

"......Lee wasn’t surprised. “Knowing Neil the way I do,” he says, “and knowing that he knew how much time he had left, I think it was a natural thing for him to review the work of his life. And he was finding himself very proud of how he had spent a big chunk of his life. And he wanted to share that with Alex and I. Whenever we saw him, he wanted to talk about that. He wanted us to know that he was proud."



What a trip to think Neil was walking the streets of Santa Monica as a commoner. He also volunteered at his kid's school's library.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

One year later.........Some details now coming out. Such a sad situation he could not spend all the time with his family that he yearned for.

"......Lee wasn’t surprised. “Knowing Neil the way I do,” he says, “and knowing that he knew how much time he had left, I think it was a natural thing for him to review the work of his life. And he was finding himself very proud of how he had spent a big chunk of his life. And he wanted to share that with Alex and I. Whenever we saw him, he wanted to talk about that. He wanted us to know that he was proud."



What a trip to think Neil was walking the streets of Santa Monica as a commoner. He also volunteered at his kid's school's library.
Yea as private as he was, he was in the "public eye" you can say as he walked around the beach community. 
Can you imagine the kids coming home and telling mommy and daddy that Olivia's dad read to the class....."How was your day dear?", "Great mommy, Olivia's dad read to us again!"...."Oh nice what did he read to you?", "He told us story about the Temples of Syrinx, Jacobs Ladder and Cygnus X-1 and this really neat place called Xanadu!" .....
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Rick Beato breaks down "Limelight" in this excellent video!


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Wow, how did I miss this anniversary. Yesterday last year we lost the great Neil Peart. Crazy that it's been a whole year already. Wow. 

Anyway, yeah big fan of Rick's videos. I just watched one he did on the cars "just what I needed." Of course he doesn't focus just on prog but it's good he does mention Yes, Rush, etc from time to time.
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