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^ Creepy flying moneys. shudders

^^ Harold and Maude is one of my all-time favourite films, and I was on a massive Lynch kick some months ago. I watched Eraserhead again, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me, all of Twin Peaks TV, Lost Highway. And I love Mullholland Drive, The Elephant Man, Blue Velvet etc. Watching Eraserhead again was a film that spurred me into making this topic (I did a too similar one before, but I felt I started off too list heavy and wanted this to be more about other people's choices than my own). I've got many hundreds of weird and wonderful films that I love.

I like They Live too.

As For Lucifer Rising, which I've seen, the Bonby Beausoleil* soundtrack is one of my favourite albums in PA (the fact that it was made in prison by a convicted murderer involved with the Manson family might concern some, or for others somewhat add to the intrigue). Jimmy Page's version is cool too, but he had a falling out with Anger.

Another I'll mention is Tampopo and the Australian film Bliss (a sort of dark comedy).

EDIT: I mean Bobby Beausoleil. Funny typo as I had tried to correct it from my original typo which was Booby Beausoleil.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:27
this is a very weird short movie too: "Visa de censure n°X" by Pierre André Clémenti. warning: full frontal nudity




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Oh and there is Begotten. What a nightmarish movie!
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Not quite a full movie (about 30 minutes) more like a short.



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You should have heard them in their prime ... all the way to ... something that you know is wong, or like that (didn't look) ... and I like the solo's by Bergman ... and wish that Ossman had done a solo, but I think it would be crazy, convoluted and insane and impossible to enjoy ... not enough of his early "Easy Street" days playing old stuff and interviewing some folks from those days, and Mel Blanc was one and one of his heroes I believe he said. Some of the early stuff from KPFK in LA is on the albums ... changed somewhat ... but still very funny and enjoyable ... and Pastor Flash is coming down .... !!!!!
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how about "Themroc" by Claude Faraldo? a movie that includes incest, cannibalism and weird unintelligible shouting instead of spoken words




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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I only finally watched this in 2020 but has jumped high on my list of strange films.
Well worth a spin as it's only 28 minutes long.


I could think of hundreds of flicks but here's a few that immediately come to mind Wink

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Thry Live is creepy and very relevant today.
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Hi,

Honestly, I have found life around me much more off-beat and strange than the majority of films that I have ever seen.

AND, I have lived for the film images, not the kind that fatso showed in his movie that everyone thought was great, but the ones that show people, animals and nature for what it is ... and seeing it being "glorified" visually is something that I do not enjoy, and find sickening. Like the twisting of a knife even more so we get to see more blood! It's not necessary in film of theater for us to know/understand what is going on.

Some films have gotten the best of me, in that ... how the heck can I review that? ... what do I say? But, in general, most of the reviews are taken from a feeling that I had while watching. However, there are some films that stick to my mind really strong ... like LE PHATOME DE LA LIBERTE ... and of course VIRIDIANA and specially SIMON OF THE DESERT when watching it in Madison, no one in the audience "knew" Spanish and the array of words and insults was awesome ... and I was laughing ... and everyone was looking at me as the subtitles would say ... "you sorry strumpet" ... "you ugly kitchen maid" and the most ridiculous comments ever that were not even close to the wording in the film ... and you would have to be a total idiot to not realize that the "translations" were from another planet and needed to be in that Mystery Theatre thing with the guys in front of you!

But the images of several paintings coming alive ... is something that I still remember vividly, and honestly ... it's not weird ... it's very real! AND, it is like someone that saw the future ... but we hate that analogy!

More often than not I still say that somethings in film are more real than life itself ... because it shows/pictures what we love and hate and miss all of our lives ... when you don't have anyone around yo that you can discuss this or do something about it ... it makes for a sad existence, and these films provide some (I suppose it is called .. ) escapism from the otherwise boring and ugly life day in and out!

The things that I love the most, sometimes, seem to be the ones that are way out there ... where the images don't make sense, and it is like your 2nd and 3rd level dreams (no one place or person recognizable!), and you don't even spend time wondering what it means ... you don't worry about "meaning" ... you concentrate on it all ... and at times a movie or two feels like that ... "EL TOPO" comes to mind, but I probably have a hard time thinking of the films that I have seen which also fit the bill, although I could easily add BRAZIL, 12 MONKEES (which is not an insane film!), PROSPERO'S BOOKS, NOT MOZART (fabulous fun!) and many other things I have seen that were totally crazy and nuts ... but something that stood out and was far out to watch. For example, I like the idea that the PiP in THE PILLOW BOOK is like the character's thinking mind, which is not always (JUST LIKE US) in tune with the very words we use and say! It makes perfect sense in his movie ... although I'm not sure that the PiP concentrated on the sensual/sexual side of things as much as it could. But, the "birth of Mozart" in the NOT MOZART film, is incredibly crazy, and insane and beautifully realized ... only the original production of MARAT/SADE could ever fit as just as good ... however, the wording in PETER WEISS' play is far better and ...TIMELESS ... try to listen to just the words, and not "see" the movie ... it is incredible! 

One other film comes to mind ... and believe it or not it is not the images ... but the words. Guy Guden in his shows used to play the soundtrack of BEDAZZLED (the original) during his shows and mix music to it, and in the end, if you only listen to the words, there are comments in there that are prophetic ... like the line about corporate strength, the lines about advertising (in the end) and some amazing bits and pieces ... which are more than true ... again, it's like someone could see the future ... two overly educated folks from England, writing something which is incredible, but ... really ... impossible to film without gags and entertaining shots and bits! Sadly, the words lose their strength somewhat.


Edited by moshkito - December 30 2020 at 10:22
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Really weird films that I really enjoy:

Liquid Sky (1982)

Pi (1998)

The Sacrifice (1986)

Moon (2009)

The Lobster (2015)

The Village (2004)

Cet Obscur Objet du Desir (1977)

The Party (1968)



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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Lugosi's appearance does seem so incongruous, which is what I love about it.

Cringe is something that I can relate to, so a lot of the things I like are rather cringeworthy. I read before that Ed Wood was a crossdresser, and this was a topic that was important for him to address, which adds to what I was saying about Ed Wood's sincerity as a filmmaker. I'm not a crossdresser, but I could empathise with Glen and having a palpable feeling of discomfort. I'm not exactly a masochist, but a lot of my entertainment is rather uncomfortable (I commonly likes characters which don't fit the usual mold and have some psychological issues). Stories of outsiders, misfits, those who feel alienated often appeal as that is how I have commonly felt.


I can definitely relate to that too. I myself have often felt alienated in many ways, and I can't stand conformity (I actually did crossdressing myself when I was a little boy). And no doubt it was a brave thing back in the day to address a topic such as crossdressing, especially considering the times. Today it may be harder to understand why it was so controversial, because luckily the topic is much less tabooed. But then we have other issues to deal with.


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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

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Really weird films that I really enjoy:

Cet Obscur Objet du Desir (1977)

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Hi, 

Specially weird when Bunuel had to change the film several times because of the change of main actresses. I wish Fernando Rey had written about that experience ... but it was very much a Bunuel way to change things ... and Catherine Deneuve mentions it in her book, that when they did a scene, and somehow it didn't work, in the next day they would shoot the same scene with different dialogue and action ... !!!!!

Now, that is far out, extremely experimental, and, consequently, not surprising for Bunuel to still be able to make a film work ... despite anything!



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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

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Really weird films that I really enjoy:

Cet Obscur Objet du Desir (1977)

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Hi, 

Specially weird when Bunuel had to change the film several times because of the change of main actresses. I wish Fernando Rey had written about that experience ... but it was very much a Bunuel way to change things ... and Catherine Deneuve mentions it in her book, that when they did a scene, and somehow it didn't work, in the next day they would shoot the same scene with different dialogue and action ... !!!!!

Now, that is far out, extremely experimental, and, consequently, not surprising for Bunuel to still be able to make a film work ... despite anything!


is it possible that you confuse the movie with "Belle de Jour"? "Cet obscur objet du désir" star Carole Bouqet and Ángela Molina sharing the role of Conchita. Catherine Deneuve stars in the movie I named


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Many strange films and I also liked Donnie Darko and Reflecting Skin.....
Also:
Altered States
Inland Empire
Mulholand Drive
Naked Lunch
Existenz
Being John Malkovich
Boxing Helena





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I love cinema but haven't git round to contribute to any of the discussions here... I just put together a top 10 list for the other thread and thinking aboutr what may be my top 10, many others came to my mind that are very strong. Not sure though which of the qualify as off-beat and strange; I have a certain preference for realistic acting, psychological themes, and credible stories and characters that somehow goes against being all too strange and weird.

Strange enough and not listed in the top 10 but great are, in my view, Being John Malkovich, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Lars von Trier's Europa, Delicatessen, Wild Tales, Bunuel's The Exterminating Angel, Fellini's La Voce della Luna, Stalker, Tarr's The Man From London. Certainly some of these are listed already, I see some incredibly long lists here (be selective, guys!). 


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Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

∆∆∆∆∆Wow what a nifty 'lil list you got up there !!!:)


Thank you! Out of curiosity, what are the ones you consider the weirdest?

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^^ MortSahlFan, a very eclectic list, some on the more weird side than others.



Thanks.. Out of curiosity, what are the ones you consider the weirdest? When I was thinking and typing, I was thinking first if people would know some of the lesser known movies, but also "I wonder if this is weird for THEM"
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

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is it possible that you confuse the movie with "Belle de Jour"? "Cet obscur objet du désir" star Carole Bouqet and Ángela Molina sharing the role of Conchita. Catherine Deneuve stars in the movie I named

Hi,

Angela and Carole shared the role because one of them left mid shoot.

The book I referred to is Catherine Deneuve's memoir/diary from many of the shoots in her films that she discusses just about every director's style and abilities really well. It explains, in some ways, why "That Obscure Object of Desire" did not fall apart as a film ... given the horrid circumstances that took place ... my guess being that someone did not like Bunuel's temperament and changes, and I can see how a "method" actor would have problems with this easily enough ... the character is not "fluid" and neither does it "expand", and Bunuel's film makes a totally fun mess of the whole thing. I would have liked to hear/see Fernando Rey's comments on the whole thing!

Quote from Bunuel's book (also on Wiki!!!):

In 1977, in Madrid, when I was in despair after a tempestuous argument with an actress who'd brought the shooting of That Obscure Object of Desire to a halt, the producer, Serge Silberman, decided to abandon the film altogether. The considerable financial loss was depressing us both until one evening, when we were drowning our sorrows in a bar, I suddenly had the idea (after two dry martinis) of using two actresses in the same role, a tactic that had never been tried before. Although I made the suggestion as a joke, Silberman loved it, and the film was saved.


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it is interesting to see what people call "weird". I would for example not call "Rashomon" (my favorite movie of all times) weird


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Another film I could mention is De Skrigende Halse (The Screaming Throats) from 1993, though it is principially a TV movie (it debuted on Danish television that year). Sadly I don't think it can be found with subtitles of any kind.

It's a hilarious satire on the 80's punk scene in Denmark, especially the more pretentious corners of it. It centers around the "death cult punk band" De Skrigende Halse. The film is a cult classic here, and there are very dedicated people who know all the dialogue by heart. Sort of a Danish equivalent to Spinal Tap...


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MortSahlFan: Weird is so subjective as so alluded to. So indeed, anything that seems different what one is used to can seem weird. I expect that a lot of films that I like would seem weird to others. Your list doesn't strike me as weird (I won't say that I've seen all of them, but I have seen a lot of them -- many not for a very long time). Some films are going to seem more bizarre and surreal to me. A film like A Clockwork Orange is weird in its way and other films have their unusual moments (or scenarios). The Deer Hunter has a strangeness, and Ordet does for its fantasy qualities. Love M and I can see why you'd include it. Could also include The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari. And of course Fellini. Seem to recall without looking through it again that you mention La Dolce Vita (my mother was in the film in a scene but left on the cutting room floor). 8 and a Half and Satiricon are two I might well mention in a long list. And for those who like 8 and a Half, consider Greenaway's 8 and a Half Women (he has many oddities, and is a favourite filmmaker of mine).

Porcille is one that I love that could be called weird by some. So could something like The Man Who Fell to Earth. Something like Tetsuo may be more obviously weird, and a film like Funky Forest is deliberately bizarre (not a fave of mine -- too weird and icky for the sake of it I feel). Holy Motors and Gummo are a couple other favourite films that I would consider to be of the more bizarre quality (or The Bothersome Man, City of Lost Children, or On The Silver Globe as a sort of exercise in imagination)/And the modern faves of mine, Under the Skin and The Lobster. And various Lars von Trier could count.

Something I'd like to mention is Lindsay Anderson's If.. and O Lucky Man (which have dark comedy aspects, and then the third in that kind of Travis series was Britannia Hospital).

I'd love to curate a bizarre films festival -- mind you, I'd love to work on most any film festival. To some a film that depicts Jesus having a food fight at the last supper would be really weird.
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