Your favourite off-beat, strange films
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Topic: Your favourite off-beat, strange films
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Your favourite off-beat, strange films
Date Posted: October 05 2020 at 13:41
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There are so many weird and wonderful/ unusual/ surrealistic films out there that I love, but I'll start with just four: Zardoz (director John Boorman), Videodrome (director David Cronenberg), A Zed & Two Noughts (director Peter Greenaway) and Eraserhead (director David Lynch). Here are the trailers: Expect this to be a video heavy topic. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 05 2020 at 14:01
^ Four of the weirdest films I've ever seen are David Lynch's "Eraserhead", David Cronenberg's "Videodrome", Stanley Kubrick's "Clockwork Orange" and Sean Connery in "Zardoz", although I wouldn't call them favourites of mine. 
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 05 2020 at 14:09
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Lots of good ones out there: Time Bandits Pan's Labyrinth The Gods Must Be Crazy 12 Monkeys A Clockwork Orange A Boy & His Dog |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 05 2020 at 14:12
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^^ Especially when I was a teenager, a Clockwork and Brazil were my absolute favorited films. A couple other favourites of mine have been Delicatessen and City of Lost Children( Jeunet et Caro) and Juzo Itami’s Tampopo. And various Almodovar and Bigas Luna films. ^ love all of those. Good to see another admirer of A Boy and His Dog. And Time Bandits is one of those films I can watch again and again and again. I tried to get my kids into it unsuccessfully. Pan’s Labyrinth is one of my favourite “modern” films, and another favourite modern film that certainly fits is Under the Skin. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 05 2020 at 14:20
| ^ I keep trying to catch Time Bandits, I want me daughter to see it but I can find it anywhere. |
Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 10:01
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The little known work of the famous Soviet director Eldar Ryazanov, The Man From Nowhere, contained absurdist, surreal stuff. The dance of the protagonist directly refers to a Marx brother's movie, as far as I can see: ------------- Favourite Band: Gentle Giant Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis) |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 10:50
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They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (Free on YouTube) A Clockwork Orange Sult (Free on YouTube) A Woman Under the Influence (Free on YouTube) Buffalo '66 ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 10:58
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A few quite modern ones that I adored and are quite strange are: The Lobster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR_NcqD-Gfs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR_NcqD-Gfs The Bothersome Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49DNGtWhTdo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49DNGtWhTdo Under the Skin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcR5KHjoc-0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcR5KHjoc-0 The first two are sort of black comedies, and the third is more horror. The Reflecting Skin and Baxter are older ones that come to mind. There are so many. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 13:10
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I would suggest several films of Alain Robbe-Grillet (who was also the script-writer for Alain Resnais' L'année dernière à Marienbad). He plays with narrative structures and cinematographic conventions (sometimes in a more radical way than did Godard...). Found two films on YT: Trans-Europ-Express (with English subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSeyBNIOKmQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSeyBNIOKmQ L'Homme qui ment (no subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QND3niQcKk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QND3niQcKk More of the absurd kind: Delicatessen, by Marc Caro and Jean-Pierre Jeunet. Trailer: Most films of the Dutch Alex van Warmerdam are quite unusual, surreal or have some magical realism over them, but I don't think they exported well... But if you want a Czech burlesque musical western parody (for or against alcohol, that's the question...), then I warmly recommend Lemonade Joe, a Horse Opera by Oldrich Lipsky (1964). You will have a good laugh! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzuTQWrjh2o" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzuTQWrjh2o
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 13:23
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 13:34
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Orson Welles' first (and originally silent) film The Hearts of Age of 1934 might fit the criteria: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 13:45
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^ Delicatessan (and City of Lost Children) are favourites of mine (big fan of Jeunet and Caro). I have seen Alain Resnais' L'année dernière à Marienbad and must have seen Alain Robbe-Grillet work. For a modern one, High-Rise was good. Swiss Army Man was unusual. A very strange film is the Japanese Funky Forest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFVC_Ktge7Y" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFVC_Ktge7Y ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 13:50
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Welles' film made me also think of Dali and Bunuel's classic L'age d'or... But undoubtedly less known and completely off-beat, but not less intriguing is Salvador Dali's Impressions de la Haute-Mongolie / Impressions from Upper Mongolia (English subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJk-DzMvVzE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJk-DzMvVzE ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 13:53
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^ The City of Lost Children includes the most sadistic murder I've ever seen. ---SPOILER ALERT--- Plugging your robotic eye cable into the person's socket, whom you're gonna strangle... And that person sees his own strangulation, as if he was strangling another person... At the same time, he is being strangled to death... This is literally the imagination of a twisted f**k!..   ---SPOILER ALERT--- |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 14:06
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I've seen many of those..some great weird ones there...I really liked Altered States...not all that weird compared to some but a good one. Another one I liked but I like all of Lynch's films... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 14:11
| Hellbound: Hellraiser II is also a "freak of the horror cinema", and one of my favourites. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 15:36
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Antother short film. Saw this one, I think back in 1990, at the Rotterdam Film Festival. I'm not sure how to qualify it... it's about hair, maybe: Alison MacLean - Kitchen Sink: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 26 2020 at 04:43
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Not quite a full movie (about 30 minutes) more like a short. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 26 2020 at 05:06
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Some of mine have already be named by Logan; here a few more of mine. Alejandro Jodorowsky - El Topo (The Mole) Alejandro Jodorowsky - La montaña sagrada (The Holy Mountain) Jos
Stelling - De Wisselwachter (The Pointsman) (could find no trailer for
that one. The full movie is available on YouTube, but unfortunately only
with annoying Russian overdubs). Fernando Arrabal - Viva la muerte Paul Verhoeven - De vierde man (The Fourth Man) -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 26 2020 at 06:51
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In no particular order: Eraserhead Videodrome The 'burbs Blue Velvet Body Double Vanilla Sky ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition  ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 26 2020 at 09:39
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A couple of hours ago I watched Arventur (2015). A Russian movie, divided into two independent plots. Arventur is a place where a real and imaginary world exist at the same time. It was invented by the Russian writer Alexander Grin. A visually mesmerizing art movie; where there's some impressive effort and imagination exerted. The first part of the film is "Fandango", but I liked its second part "Secret of a Sea Landscape" better. (Did I ever say that I'm very much interested in the Chinese culture? )It was quite a nuisance to find it and provide proper English subtitles, though. |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 13:24
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I've just watched The Snow Queen (2005 - TV Movie). It might be too scary for kids, but good for teenagers I think. I love the story, and the movie's duration is short (about 56 minutes); that's why I've given it a try. Not disappointed at all, despite some ridiculous and flawed aspects of it. And it is Christmas!!! If you have teenagers at home, you can find and watch the movie on Youtube, together! And it can be counted amongst the "strange" movies. |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 13:28
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Not a favorite for sure but 'A Serbian Film' is pretty... shocking. Apart from that, I like 'Pi' (not the one with the tiger), 'A Clockwork Orange' and 'Raw' from 2016, I think.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 13:44
| ^ A Clockwork Orange... There used to be a format called VCD (Video CD) in about the late 90s and early 2000s here. ACO was one of the most popular movies whose illegal copies were abundantly sold in Turkey, in that format. The movie is strange indeed, yet what is even stranger is that the movie is very anarchic and it should have been treated like illegal drugs instead. Hahah. Its book is also a nice one, though I only read its Turkish translation. I gotta read its original too! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 14:01
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A Clockwork Orange is one of my all-time favourite films, and I like the novel very much. I have liked to double-bill it with Brazil. I would recommend checking out If... and O Lucky Man. A Serbian Film is hard to stomach. Some other faves of mine are the rather surrealistic City of Lost Children, Delicatessen, Pan's Labyrinth, The Bothersome Man and I loved the sort of horror film Under the Skin. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 01:24
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Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead and undoubted classic films by David Lynch but check out Lost Highway if you want something truly weird by him. Brazil is one of my favourite films by Terry Gilliam although I recommend Lost in La Manche for something offbeat and slightly tragic. Its about his attempt to make a film about Don Quixote that was heavily jinxed from the start. In the end they had to give up on it. Fantastically entertaining and sad at the same time.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 01:29
Never got round to watching Clockwork Orange to be honest. I've always found Kubrick to be massively overrated despite his undoubted influence on film makers like Ridley Scott. Enjoyed Pan's Labyrinth a lot but hated Under The Skin and almost wished I hadn't bothered , seemed a high price to pay just to see Scarlett Johansson 'in the raw'. |
Logan wrote:Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 03:16
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4 I watched on 2 cold, snowy and dark nites in the family :):) REPO MEN; I WILL FOLLOW YOU DOWN; THE ADJUSTMENT BUREAU; WONDERWALL (1968) psychedelic flip-out movie with songs by George Harrison in the Beatles' psychedelic period:)
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 03:24
To each his or her own. Overrated is a term that I often have a problem with (and I do have a film studies background, not that that makes my opinion more valuable except if I was like having to teach it which I wouldn't be that qualified to do). I tend to think that most everything is overrated by some and underrated by others. Generally I don't think that it is a very useful concept in terms of "truth writ large" rather than just a very subjective response since for so many it really just means "I don't like it as much as many people do". It is interesting to think about what one thinks that oneself overrates. Where I most like the term overrated is when one uses it to refer to specific claims being made about something or someone, and then one can use facts and sound reasoning to show errors in overestimation (undue credit being given, esteem that does not logically follow...). I've been accused of holding things in too high esteem (overrating) by people who have claimed that I only really liked something because that seems to be some kind of general consensus (a herd mentality), yet to my recollection I loved those things before hearing what the critics were saying. It was my personal relationship with the material. And everyone's experience with art is unique since we each have individual brains that interpret the material and we each bring in our own associations and experiences. A problem I often have with people telling others that they have overrated or underrated something is that it can seem to negate or invalidate the other's experience which may be genuinely profound for that individual, or not. Others who rate works highly of his that I love are still not having quite the same experience that I am. It's very hard to be truly objective about such things. We all have our biases, we all have our own unique experiences, and then there are shared experiences (but still each experience is unique). We may be watching the same movie, but it's not quite the same movie as interpreted by our brains as individual neurology bring uniqueness to the experience. What one values of course says a lot about the individual's psyche. As I said another thread yesterday, as the saying goes, in matters of taste there can be no dispute (I won't say that that is absolutely true, but to tell others that they value something too highly because one does not enjoy it oneself can be very egocentric and lacking in a certain empathy-- and sometimes it's just a general sense that others got it wrong and there are no solid arguments or details to back up the assertion). That said, you may have a very good thesis on specific claims where you think people are commonly overrating Kubrick (but I don't know how familiar with his oeuvre you are). I'd have to see your reasoning and how it doesn't just reflect on your tastes. Kubrick had his issues (going over budget, obsessively detail oriented, quite or very possibly misogynistic, arrogant, didn't always treat the people he worked with well and exploitative) and I won't claim to particularly enjoy everything he worked on, but I love various of his films, and A Clockwork Orange is my favourite of them for its black comedy. I do find it disturbing. I happen to love 2001, and I have since I was a young child, but I can understand why others might find it too slow and boring. A lot of people would not appreciate so called art house film as much as I do, or surreal films. The Shining, Barry Lyndon and Doctor Strangelove I love as well. The formalism of the shots is one thing that appeals to me. He has many scenes that really stuck with me and deeply resonated with me. In 2001 the shadow boxing around the centrifuge while passing by the sarcophagi is one. I'm very visuals and composition oriented and often like films that take their time and may have moments with very little happening (dead space, like in Paris, Texas, if you have seen it). I won't say that I much liked Eyes Wide Shut, although as a Kubrick follower (watched many of his films and read books about him), it still interested me when it came out. I was an admirer of Kubrick films before remembering being told that I should like it. I loved A Clockwork Orange from my first watch as a teenager. While I can see the Kubrick in it, in quite big part because of Malcolm McDowell, it most reminds me of Lindsay Anderson's O Lucky Man. I'd sooner compare directors such as Gilliam, Jeunet, del Toro, or Tarkovsky to Kubrick (I would compare Solaris with 2001) than Ridley Scott, but that's me making my own associations. I wouldn't put Ridley Scott on the same artistic pedestal as Kubrick (not that I've seen all of Scott's work and I only read a book about his Blade Runner on him). Take for instance Blade Runner (and I am a huge Philip K. Dick admirer), I loved that film when it came out, but it largely lost its luster for me (I have seen it many times in different versions ). That said, I still love Alien. If you put him higher, well, we all have our biases (hopefully we recognise our biases and try to compensate for them). Some of my favourite films in the sci-fi tradition I know are not generally considered to be very good, such as Zardoz, Logan's Run, Lynch's Dune or even Clonus: Body Parts Horror, but they resonated with me. That said, I also love a lot of so called art house film that is generally acclaimed by so-called intellectuals and film academics (as opposed to the so-called ignorant masses-- lol). A Boy and His Dog is a favourite of mine that I've seen ridiculed. As for Under the Skin, for me it was very poignant and haunting. I was moved by it and found the imagery compelling. The beginning, in particular, did remind me of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It's not a film that I would expect most to like and would be too obviously artsy for some people. It does seem to be a very marmite film. It's one of my very favourite films of the last decade (and is obviously not one to be recommended to most mainstream audiences). It also felt fresh and "different" to me. Quite unique and daring. The Lobster and Dogtooth (and I liked The Killing of a Sacred Deer) directed by Yorgos Lanthimos are some of my very favourite strange films, and some of my favourite films period. I loved High-Rise (the fairly recent film adaptation). I often favour black comedy and sort of dystopian tales (I am a pessimist), What we value is deeply personal and says so much about one which is a reason why telling someone else that they overvalue something can feel like a personal attack. Here are some of my favourite directors and films by them to give a taste of the kind of things I like (I posted this before and some I like more than others). It is a pretty eclectic list, so goes beyond the strange parameters, except perhaps it says a little about my strange self. - Woody Allen - Sleeper, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask), Casino Royale - Pedro Almodóvar - Talk to Her, All About My Mother, Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown - Robert Altman - The Player, Vincent & Theo, Nashville - Lindsay Anderson - if..., O Lucky Man, This Sporting Life - Michael Anderson - Logan's Run, All the Fine Young Cannibals - Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood, Punch-Drunk Love, Boogie Nights - Wes Anderson - The Grand Budapest Hotel, The Royal Tenenbaums, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou - Theo Angelopoulos - The Travelling Players, Eternity and a Day, Ulysses' Gaze - Michelangelo Antonioni - L'Avventura, La Notte, The Passenger - Denys Arcand - Jesus of Montreal, The Decline of the American Empire, The Barbarian Invasions - Hal Ashby - Harold and Maude, Being There - Ari Aster - Hereditary, Midsommar - Ingmar Bergman - Through a Glass Darkly, Wild Strawberries, The Seventh Seal - Bong Joon-ho - Parasite, The Host, Memories of Murder, Snowpiercer - John Boorman - Zardoz, Deliverance, Excalibur - Robert Bresson - Diary of a Country Priest, Mouchette, The Trial of Joan of Arc - Luis Buñuel - The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Belle de Jour, The Exterminating Angel - Chen Kaige - Yellow Earth, Farewell My Concubine, Temptress Moon - Jean Cocteau - Orpheus, Beauty and the Beast - Joel & Ethan Coen - Miller's Crossing, The Big Lebowski, Barton Fink, Fargo - Francis Ford Coppola - Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, The Godfather: Part 2 - David Cronenberg - Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Spider (love so much of his) - Brian De Palma - Carrie, Scarface, Phantom of the Paradise - Vittorio De Sica - Bicycle Thieves, Umberto D. - Richard Donner - The Omen (worth mentioning for that alone, he also did Superman and the Goonies). - Robert Eggers - The Witch (loved this horror film) - Atom Egoyan - The Sweet Hereafter, Exotica, Felicia's Journey - Sergei M. Eisenstein - Alexander Nevsky, Battleship Potemkin, Ivan the Terrible - Rainer Werner Fassbinder - World on a Wire (TV miniseries), Fox and His Friends, Despair - Federico Fellini - La Dolce Vita, 8½, Fellini's Satyricon - David Fincher - Se7en, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Fight Club -Bryan Forbes - The Stepford Wives (1975), the Wrong Box, King Rat - Terry Gilliam - Brazil, Time Bandits, Twelve Monkeys - Jonathan Glazer - Under the Skin, Sexy Beast - Jean-Luc Godard - Alphaville, Breathless, La Chinoise - Michel Gondry - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Science of Sleep - Peter Greenaway - Drowning by Numbers, The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover, 8 ½ Women - Michael Haneke - Funny Games (1997), Code Unknown, The Piano Teacher - Robin Hardy - The Wicker Man (1973) - Todd Haynes - Far From Heaven, Velvet Goldmine - Werner Herzog - Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Fitzcarraldo, Where the Green Ants Dream - Toby Hooper - Poltergeist, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - Hirokazu Kore-eda - After Life, Air Doll, Nobody Knows - Alfred Hitchcock - Psycho, The Birds, Vertigo - Agnieszka Holland - Olivier, Olivier, Europa, Europa - Hou Hsiao-hsien - Flowers of Shanghai, Taipei Story, A Time to Live, A Time to Die - Shohei Imamura - Black Rain, Vengeance is Mine, The Insect Woman - Juzo Itami - Tampopo, The Funeral, A Taxing Woman - Jim Jarmusch - Mystery Train, Stranger than Paradise, Night on Earth - Jean-Pierre Jeunet - Delicatessen, The City of Lost Children, Amélie - Terry Jones - Monty Python and the Holy Grail (with Gilliam), Life of Brian, The Meaning of Life - Spike Jonze - Her, Being John Malkovich, Adaptation - Alejandro Jodorowsky - The Holy Mountain, El Topo - Aki Kaurismaki - The Man Without a Past, Juha, Drifting Clouds - Jennifer Kent - The Babadook - Abbas Kiarostami - Taste of Cherry, The Wind Will Carry Us, Where is the Friend's Home? - Krzysztof Kieślowski - Dekalog (tv miniseries); Three Colours Trilogy: Blue, White, Red; The Double Life of Veronique - Takeshi Kitano - Fireworks, Kikujiro - Stanley Kubrick - A Clockwork Orange, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Shining, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, Barry Lyndon - Akira Kurosawa - Dodes'ka-den, Rashomon, Ran - John Landis - An American Werewolf in London (had to get this film in) - Fritz Lang - M, Metropolis, Contempt - Yorgos Lanthimos - Dogtooth, The Lobster, The Killing of a Sacred Deer - Ray Lawrence - Bliss - Ang Lee - Eat Drink Man Woman; Lust, Caution; Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Mike Leigh - Naked, Secrets & Lies, Life is Sweet - Jens Lien - The Bothersome Man, Sons of Norway - Sergio Leone - The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, For a Few Dollars More, Once Upon a Time in the West - Ken Loach - Riff-Raff, Raining Stones, Land and Freedom - George Lucas - THX 1138 (for that film particularly) - Bigas Luna - Jamón, Jamón; La teta y la luna; Golden Balls - David Lynch - Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet, Eraserhead etc. - Terrence Malick - The Tree of Life, Days of Heaven, The Thin Red Line - George Miller - Mad Max and Mad Max II (The Road Warrior) - Hayao Miyazaki - Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle - Gaspar Noé - Enter the Void, Irreversible - Yasujirō Ozu - Tokyo Story, Tokyo Twilight, A Story of Floating Weeds - Park Chan-wook - Oldboy, Lady Vengeance, I'm a Cyborg but That's OK - Alan Parker - Midnight Express, Mississippi Burning - Wolfgang Petersen - Das Boot, Consequence - He Ping - Red Firecracker, Green Firecracker; Wheat - Satyajit Ray- The World of Apu, Aparajito, Pather Panchali - Jean Renoir - The Rules of the Game, The Grand Illusion, La Chienne - Alan Resnais - Night and Fog, Hiroshia Mon Amour, Last Year at Marienbad - Jacques Rivette - The Nun, Celine and Julie Go Boating, Paris Belongs to Us - Nicolas Roeg - The Man Who Fell to Earth, Don't Look Now, Walkabout - Éric Rohmer- Pauline at the Beach, Claire's Knee, My Night at Maud's - Walter Salles - Central Station, The Motorcycle Diaries, Behind the Sun - John Schlesinger - Sunday Bloody Sunday, Midnight Cowboy, Marathon Man - Martin Scorsese - Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore - Vittorio De Sica - Umberto D., Bicycle Thieves, Two Women - Volker Schlöndorff - The Tin Drum, The Ogre, The Ninth Day - Stephen Spielberg - Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Schindler's List... - Ridley Scott - Alien, The Duellists, Blade Runner - Tony Scott - The Hunger - Todd Solondz - Happiness, Welcome to the Dollhouse, Palindromes - Oliver Stone - Natural Born Killers, Salvador, Platoon - Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill Volumes 1 & 2, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, Pulp Fiction, The Hateful Eight - Andrei Tarkovsky - Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris - Béla Tarr - Damnation, The Prefab People - Lars von Trier - The Element of Crime, Europa, Melancholia - François Truffaut - Fahrenheit 451, The 400 Blows, Jules et Jim - Tsui Hark - Butterfly Murders, Once Upon a Time in China, Zu: Warriors from the Magic Mountain - Tom Tykwer - Run Lola Run, Winter Sleepers, Heaven - Denis Villeneuve - Maelstrom, Sicario, Arrival (he also directed Blade Runner 2049) - Luchino Visconti - The Damned, The Leopard, Ossessione - Peter Weir - Gallipoli, Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Year of Living Dangerously, The Truman Show - Wim Wenders - Paris, Texas; Wings of Desire; Until the End of the World - Michael Winterbottom - Code 46, Wonderland - Robert Wise - The Andromeda Strain (really why I included him), The Haunting, Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Edgar Wright - Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, The World's End - Wong Kar-wai - In the Mood For Love, 2046, Ashes of Time - Zhang Yimou - Red Sorghum, Ju Dou, Raise the Red Lantern EDITed for terrible typos and one very silly mistake. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 03:30
I lied Repo Men and The Adjustment Bureau (based on Philip K. Dick story, a very favourite writer of mine), but I have yet to see the others. Wonderwall I should get around to seeing. Thanks for the mentions. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 03:41
Wonderwall has to be watched with an open mYnde and heart, otherwise you will be lost in its complex development......typical 1960s psychedelic underground flick :)
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 04:02
My mind is so open that it's a wonder that my brains don't fall out. My heart is so open that it makes open heart surgery a breeze. It sounds like something I'd like and methinks I wouldn't mind getting lost in its complex development. :) And maybe I'll watch Head again. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 04:42
So do I! Also "underratedness" is another issue. I think such convictions are within the encompassment of egocentric bias; whilst, I'm not much of a saint in this regard, honestly. I sometimes use these words to attack the crowds, who generally suck. 
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Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 04:55
I watch Head over and over till my brain flips :) |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 07:48
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Harry and Tonto La Strada Nashville They Shoot Horses, Don't they? One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest Network The Battle of Algiers A Woman Under The Influence Buffalo '66 la grande illusion the seventh seal ace in the hole wild strawberries mccabe and mrs. miller -Fat City mikey and nicky a face in the crowd elmer gantry annie hall sunset boulevard johnny got his gun harold and maude umberto D taxi driver a clockwork orange rashomon ikiru bicycle thieves seven samurai shoeshine You can't take it with you A Taste of Cherry the devil and daniel webster the outlaw josey wales the swimmer the incident never on sunday the rules of the game last tango in paris loneliness of a long distance runner le jour se le ve -Knife in the water -bad boy bubby -the collector -shadows in paradise -the match factory girl -ariel -the plumber -crime and punishment -ladybug, ladybug -il sorpasso -la tera trema (the earth trembles) love streams opening night fist in pocket pather panchali accattone mamma roma -M -the woman on the beach -david and lisa -whity -naked -nuts in may -meantime -all or nothing -two is a happy number -a woman in the dunes -riff raff -the happy ending -hombre -the road builder -dry summer -an enemy of the people -Place de la République -A Special Day -the roof -Sunflower -the blue hotel midnight cowboy -zandy's bride -litle fugitive -lies my father told me -my dinner with andre -The Working Class Go To Heaven -Hunger (Sult) -Close-Up -nights of cabiria -The Caretaker le jour se le ve the lost weekend the deer hunter -Peeping Tom -Hell Drivers -Ride the high country -Ordet -Marriage Italian Style lolita heaven can wait Godfather Part II The Blue Dahlia too late blues One-Eyed jacks M the last detail persona in cold blood and justice for all the conversation marty five easy pieces -Joe caged il gido two women -paper moon -johnny belinda interiors come back, little sheba Patch of Blue caged alice in the cities wrong move raging bull the snake pit splendor in the grass seargant york the third man Baby Doll paths of glory home of the brave the caine mutiny mr. smith goes to washington I live in fear La Dolce Vita inherit the wind asphalt jungle love story The Graduate high noon stagecoach the getaway The Wild One anatomy of a murder from here to eternity the long goodbye Salt of the Earth mildred pierce This is Spinal Tap the searchers No Regrets For Our Youth One Wonderful Sunday -The Slender thread -The Hitchhiker easy rider cool hand luke blackboard jungle a place in the sun lust for life vagabond the bad and the beautiful the wild bunch alfie hud Summer With Monika husbands i never sang for my father opening night cool hand luke -nights at maud's -Hell in the Pacific ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 08:55
| ∆∆∆∆∆Wow what a nifty 'lil list you got up there !!!:) |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 11:59
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I don't watch so many films, but many of them are quite off-beat. Here are some of my favourites in that respect: Volver (Pedro Almodóvar) - Just the fact that there is a dead man hidden in in a freezer, and then they bury it (with the man still in it) as if there was nothing unusual about it - that makes it all worth it. With Almodóvar you often have to ask yourself what in the world is going on. O Btother Where Art Thou? (Coen brothers) - I can't always figure out how I am supposed to approach the things happening in it. For instance when Delmar believes that Pete has been turned into a toad. Hail Caesar (another Coen film) - The theoretic discussion between George Clooney and his communist abductors is amazing. There are other highlights of course. Trafic (Jacques Tati) - is another film with a bizarre sense of humour (as are other Tati films). Just look at this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LuKexB2VlrM" rel="nofollow - http://youtube.com/watch?v=LuKexB2VlrM Day of Wrath (Carl Th. Dreyer) - This is of course not a fun film in any way whatsoever. It's gloomy to say the least, but like a lot of great art, it is also very strange - for instance the dialogue which is very stylized and often resembles written language more than spoken language. It naturally adds a distance. A Hard Day's Night (Richard Lester) - for its absurdist humour, f.e. the joke about Paul's grandfather who is "very clean". Plan 9 From Outer Space (Ed Wood) - This is an awfully bad film of course, but in a fascinating way. My favourite part is probably the stunt double for Bela Lugosi who is holding his arm up to his face trying to hide that he is not Lugosi (which is clear for everyone to see anyway). The Olsen Gang Sees Red (Erik Balling) - The Danish Olsen Gang films are highly entertaining and often very satirical. They have cult status both in Denmark and in the former East Germany. Whereelse would you get to see things like this (I could only find it with German dubbing): https://vimeo.com/98685760" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/98685760
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 14:09
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^^ MortSahlFan, a very eclectic list, some on the more weird side than others. ^ Anders, lots I love there, haven’t see the Olsen Gang. With Ed Wood, my favourite, and it can be gloriously odd yet also progressive for its time, is Glen or Glenda? It features a wonderfully incongruous performance by Bela Lugosi. A reason why people love Ed Wood is because he is so sincere in any apparent ineptitude. I’m not convinced that he is as talentless or as bad as some think, but then hey, I overrate Kubrick, so what do I know? (J/k) Did I mention Funky Forest yet in this topic? A deliberately bizarre Japanese film which can be rather gross. And Swiss Army Man might have been mentioned in this topic, which is a gas. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 14:51
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In case it was mentioned, Antonioni's Blow Up. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 14:56
I could have added Glen or Glenda too. However, despite all the hilarious goofs, some scenes are downright cringeworthy - especially those with Ed Wood (Glen) and his girlfriend. But I love Lugosi's appearance in it. It seems totally meaningless, especially considering that the film is supposed to be about crossdressing.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 15:26
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Off the top of my head: Buffalo 66 (hey it even has prog music in it) Brazil Harold and Maude Big Trouble in little China Twelve Monkeys (I don't think it was that strange but since someone else listed it I will too) Spanking the monkey (speaking of monkeys) (I don't remember much about it though) Didn't care much for: Blue Velvet Mars Attacks Fargo (it was ok but doesn't really live up to the hype imo) Most of the movies I watch are rather mainstream. It just kind of turns out that way. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 16:03
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I haven't seen Spanking the Monkey, such an evocative title, and an also not that keen on Mars Attacks, but I liked all of the others in your list. As for Fargo, I surely liked the film and saw it in the cinema when it came out, but I am a much bigger fan of the TV series. I think I may be too weird and maladjusted to identify with a lot of mainstream stuff. I often like odd characters and odd situations. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 04:26
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If you like odd things, you probably love (and must know) Guy Maddin's work. He made many (wonderful) shorts and a couple of feature films. Most well known, maybe, The Saddest Music in the World and The Forbidden Room... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 04:36
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The East German cult sci-fi movie, In the Dust of the Stars (1976), with music by Soft Machine. |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 06:04
| Two sickly fun movies: Braindead & Shaolin Soccer |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 06:52
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^ I like Braindead and Bad Taste. Some other favourites of mine: The Reflecting Skin, La Planète sauvage, Donnie Darko, which I rewatched last night, and Los Cronocrímenes (Timecrimes). Timecrimes is not that well-known, but I find it to be such a satisfying time travel film. It has a rather surreal feel to it while also have a consistent internal logic, which means that there is method in any madness. As for Guy Maddin, yep I know and like him, both as somebody into the strange, and as a Canadian. The first thing I saw of his (it was on late night Canadian TV) was Tales from the Gimli Hospital, which is his feature film debut. For a short film, this is a favourite odd one of mine (a little twisted, one might say): Mompelaar (Mumbler): https://www.shortoftheweek.com/2013/10/26/mompelaar-mumbler/" rel="nofollow - https://www.shortoftheweek.com/2013/10/26/mompelaar-mumbler/ Beautifully shot and deliciously absurd. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 07:04
Lugosi's appearance does seem so incongruous, which is what I love about it. Cringe is something that I can relate to, so a lot of the things I like are rather cringeworthy. I read before that Ed Wood was a crossdresser, and this was a topic that was important for him to address, which adds to what I was saying about Ed Wood's sincerity as a filmmaker. I'm not a crossdresser, but I could empathise with Glen and having a palpable feeling of discomfort. I'm not exactly a masochist, but a lot of my entertainment is rather uncomfortable (I commonly likes characters which don't fit the usual mold and have some psychological issues). Stories of outsiders, misfits, those who feel alienated often appeal as that is how I have commonly felt. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 07:09
| ^ Donnie Darko is awesome! I'm also with you about Los Cronocrimenes. And sometimes non-American fantasy/sci-fi stuff can be a breath of fresh air. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 07:17
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^ Yeah it is awesome, I love Donnie Darko. I don;t know if you have seen the Black Mirror "interactive" movie Bandersnatch, but I see a lot of Donnie Darko in that. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 07:23
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^ Yup, seen BM - Bandersnatch. It was as you said, but I prefer the "regular" Black Mirror episodes.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 07:39
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^ I loved it in its own right. A favourite Black Mirror episode of mine is White Bear. By the way, I was looking back through earlier comments and thinking about Hellraiser (and I love the second as well as the first) and that would make for a great TV series. But I guess with about ten films (haven't seen most), maybe there is little point. The Omen's one and two are some other sequential favourites of mine (I know a lot of people who loved the first didn't like the second). Despite COVID-19 restrictions here, some months back I noticed that a small cinema was having a horror festival (ah, I so wanted to go). What a perfect time for facemasks, which can just add to the creepiness (and indeed some possible terror). Yeah, on second thought... I thought at the time I'd like to be there wearing a Jason hockey mask, or maybe as Leatherface, or these beautiful face hugger masks that you can buy. But I digress. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 07:49
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^ Haha. Awesome post. Wouldn't it be nice to see some "Sub-Zero"s, "Scorpion"s in the streets? With all their masks and in a Mortal Kombat with Covid-19? On a second thought, AREN'T WE ALL LIKE THAT NOWADAYS? Hellraiser series is generally watchable, and I'm again with you about the first 2 movies being the best among them. [The 7th (Deader) and 8th (Hellworld) are also pretty cool.] I couldn't bear to watch the 10th movie, till the end. It was just horrible. A Hellraiser TV series could be cool indeed. I have a very faint memory about a news regarding such a plan, but I'm not sure. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 08:13
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^ "Haha. Awesome post. Wouldn't it be nice to see some "Sub-Zero"s, "Scorpion"s in the streets? With all their masks and in a Mortal Kombat with Covid-19? On a second thought, AREN'T WE ALL LIKE THAT NOWADAYS? " I love the imagery, and yes we are. I thought as I wrote that that maybe there was some news of it (I do have some faint recollection, but my memory is not what it once was -- starting to get a little better though. There's some hope for this poor brain yet, might make a nice light zombie snack at least). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 08:23
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^ Good to hear that. BTW, we both are Pisceans. We cannot have "normal" minds. So perhaps you had better see yours as "peculiar" rather than "flawed". Note: Astrology, my ass... But sadly it affects us, or at least, me. Just as any "dominant" cultural production, like Shakespeare's plays. Even if one is an illiterate person and has never ever read anything about Shakespeare, his/her view on life, death, love etc. are affected by his productions. At least, that is my point of view. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 08:41
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here are some of mine: "El Topo" by Alejandro Jodorowski: "De Wisselwachter" by Jos Stelling (could unfortunately only find a German language trailer, but there is very little talking in this movie anyway): "Viva la muerte!" by Fernando Arrabal. here is one of the most disturbing scenes of this movie (which has MANY disturbing scenes): "Auch Zwerge haben klein angefangen" by Werner Herzog. here an excerpt from that movie: "De vierde man" by Paul Verhoeven (who started out making underground movies before going to Hollywood). here the trailer: -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 08:44
| ^ @Jean, you or your partner Friede mentioned Malpertuis somewhere months ago. It is also one of my favourite movies, and can be mentioned here, I guess. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 08:52
definitely! I'll post the trailer (which is in French): I prefer the long version to the Cannes version. I love Susan Hampshire in her multiple roles. sometimes she is on screen in three of them at the same time: Alice, Nancy and Euryale ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 08:58
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^^ Similar to Friede's list on page one. I think it's awesome that you two share such similar tastes. I wish my partner and I had more in common (although we used to share the same love of art house film) and she being east Asian got me more into Asian film. My wife is the hardworking pragmatic engineer and I'm the lazy dreamer who she often tolerates (I can be insufferable). I'm hardly complaining. I think if it weren't for her I might be living on the streets as a drug addict instead of living in a nice house with a fairly comfortable lifestyle. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:07
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yes, we both love weird movies, books and music. generally anything that is weird. probably because we are a bit weird ourselves. there are some movies one of us likes and the other not, like for example Jacques Tati's "Les vacances de Monsieur Hulot", which she loves and I hate. the same is true for books and music (I have the guilty pleasure of liking Elvis Presley; she hates him). but these are rare exceptions
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:08
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I only finally watched this in 2020 but has jumped high on my list of strange films. Well worth a spin as it's only 28 minutes long. I could think of hundreds of flicks but here's a few that immediately come to mind     -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:13
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The Wizard of Oz -------------   
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:18
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^ Creepy flying moneys. shudders ^^ Harold and Maude is one of my all-time favourite films, and I was on a massive Lynch kick some months ago. I watched Eraserhead again, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me, all of Twin Peaks TV, Lost Highway. And I love Mullholland Drive, The Elephant Man, Blue Velvet etc. Watching Eraserhead again was a film that spurred me into making this topic (I did a too similar one before, but I felt I started off too list heavy and wanted this to be more about other people's choices than my own). I've got many hundreds of weird and wonderful films that I love. I like They Live too. As For Lucifer Rising, which I've seen, the Bonby Beausoleil* soundtrack is one of my favourite albums in PA (the fact that it was made in prison by a convicted murderer involved with the Manson family might concern some, or for others somewhat add to the intrigue). Jimmy Page's version is cool too, but he had a falling out with Anger. Another I'll mention is Tampopo and the Australian film Bliss (a sort of dark comedy). EDIT: I mean Bobby Beausoleil. Funny typo as I had tried to correct it from my original typo which was Booby Beausoleil. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:27
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this is a very weird short movie too: "Visa de censure n°X" by Pierre André Clémenti. warning: full frontal nudity ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:32
| Oh and there is Begotten. What a nightmarish movie! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:43
| Carnival of Souls (1962) |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:49
Hi, You should have heard them in their prime ... all the way to ... something that you know is wong, or like that (didn't look) ... and I like the solo's by Bergman ... and wish that Ossman had done a solo, but I think it would be crazy, convoluted and insane and impossible to enjoy ... not enough of his early "Easy Street" days playing old stuff and interviewing some folks from those days, and Mel Blanc was one and one of his heroes I believe he said. Some of the early stuff from KPFK in LA is on the albums ... changed somewhat ... but still very funny and enjoyable ... and Pastor Flash is coming down .... !!!!! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:50
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how about "Themroc" by Claude Faraldo? a movie that includes incest, cannibalism and weird unintelligible shouting instead of spoken words ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 09:54
Thry Live is creepy and very relevant today. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 10:07
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Hi, Honestly, I have found life around me much more off-beat and strange than the majority of films that I have ever seen. AND, I have lived for the film images, not the kind that fatso showed in his movie that everyone thought was great, but the ones that show people, animals and nature for what it is ... and seeing it being "glorified" visually is something that I do not enjoy, and find sickening. Like the twisting of a knife even more so we get to see more blood! It's not necessary in film of theater for us to know/understand what is going on. Some films have gotten the best of me, in that ... how the heck can I review that? ... what do I say? But, in general, most of the reviews are taken from a feeling that I had while watching. However, there are some films that stick to my mind really strong ... like LE PHATOME DE LA LIBERTE ... and of course VIRIDIANA and specially SIMON OF THE DESERT when watching it in Madison, no one in the audience "knew" Spanish and the array of words and insults was awesome ... and I was laughing ... and everyone was looking at me as the subtitles would say ... "you sorry strumpet" ... "you ugly kitchen maid" and the most ridiculous comments ever that were not even close to the wording in the film ... and you would have to be a total idiot to not realize that the "translations" were from another planet and needed to be in that Mystery Theatre thing with the guys in front of you! But the images of several paintings coming alive ... is something that I still remember vividly, and honestly ... it's not weird ... it's very real! AND, it is like someone that saw the future ... but we hate that analogy! More often than not I still say that somethings in film are more real than life itself ... because it shows/pictures what we love and hate and miss all of our lives ... when you don't have anyone around yo that you can discuss this or do something about it ... it makes for a sad existence, and these films provide some (I suppose it is called .. ) escapism from the otherwise boring and ugly life day in and out! The things that I love the most, sometimes, seem to be the ones that are way out there ... where the images don't make sense, and it is like your 2nd and 3rd level dreams (no one place or person recognizable!), and you don't even spend time wondering what it means ... you don't worry about "meaning" ... you concentrate on it all ... and at times a movie or two feels like that ... "EL TOPO" comes to mind, but I probably have a hard time thinking of the films that I have seen which also fit the bill, although I could easily add BRAZIL, 12 MONKEES (which is not an insane film!), PROSPERO'S BOOKS, NOT MOZART (fabulous fun!) and many other things I have seen that were totally crazy and nuts ... but something that stood out and was far out to watch. For example, I like the idea that the PiP in THE PILLOW BOOK is like the character's thinking mind, which is not always (JUST LIKE US) in tune with the very words we use and say! It makes perfect sense in his movie ... although I'm not sure that the PiP concentrated on the sensual/sexual side of things as much as it could. But, the "birth of Mozart" in the NOT MOZART film, is incredibly crazy, and insane and beautifully realized ... only the original production of MARAT/SADE could ever fit as just as good ... however, the wording in PETER WEISS' play is far better and ...TIMELESS ... try to listen to just the words, and not "see" the movie ... it is incredible! One other film comes to mind ... and believe it or not it is not the images ... but the words. Guy Guden in his shows used to play the soundtrack of BEDAZZLED (the original) during his shows and mix music to it, and in the end, if you only listen to the words, there are comments in there that are prophetic ... like the line about corporate strength, the lines about advertising (in the end) and some amazing bits and pieces ... which are more than true ... again, it's like someone could see the future ... two overly educated folks from England, writing something which is incredible, but ... really ... impossible to film without gags and entertaining shots and bits! Sadly, the words lose their strength somewhat.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 10:16
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Really weird films that I really enjoy: Liquid Sky (1982) Pi (1998) The Sacrifice (1986) Moon (2009) The Lobster (2015) The Village (2004) Cet Obscur Objet du Desir (1977) The Party (1968) ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 10:31
I can definitely relate to that too. I myself have often felt alienated in many ways, and I can't stand conformity (I actually did crossdressing myself when I was a little boy). And no doubt it was a brave thing back in the day to address a topic such as crossdressing, especially considering the times. Today it may be harder to understand why it was so controversial, because luckily the topic is much less tabooed. But then we have other issues to deal with.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 31 2020 at 12:51
Hi, Specially weird when Bunuel had to change the film several times because of the change of main actresses. I wish Fernando Rey had written about that experience ... but it was very much a Bunuel way to change things ... and Catherine Deneuve mentions it in her book, that when they did a scene, and somehow it didn't work, in the next day they would shoot the same scene with different dialogue and action ... !!!!! Now, that is far out, extremely experimental, and, consequently, not surprising for Bunuel to still be able to make a film work ... despite anything! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 31 2020 at 14:53
is it possible that you confuse the movie with "Belle de Jour"? "Cet obscur objet du désir" star Carole Bouqet and Ángela Molina sharing the role of Conchita. Catherine Deneuve stars in the movie I named ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 31 2020 at 15:30
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Many strange films and I also liked Donnie Darko and Reflecting Skin..... Also: Altered States Inland Empire Mulholand Drive Naked Lunch Existenz Being John Malkovich Boxing Helena ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 01 2021 at 15:19
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I love cinema but haven't git round to contribute to any of the discussions here... I just put together a top 10 list for the other thread and thinking aboutr what may be my top 10, many others came to my mind that are very strong. Not sure though which of the qualify as off-beat and strange; I have a certain preference for realistic acting, psychological themes, and credible stories and characters that somehow goes against being all too strange and weird. Strange enough and not listed in the top 10 but great are, in my view, Being John Malkovich, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Lars von Trier's Europa, Delicatessen, Wild Tales, Bunuel's The Exterminating Angel, Fellini's La Voce della Luna, Stalker, Tarr's The Man From London. Certainly some of these are listed already, I see some incredibly long lists here (be selective, guys!).
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: January 01 2021 at 16:27
Thank you! Out of curiosity, what are the ones you consider the weirdest?
Thanks.. Out of curiosity, what are the ones you consider the weirdest? When I was thinking and typing, I was thinking first if people would know some of the lesser known movies, but also "I wonder if this is weird for THEM" ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 02 2021 at 08:28
Hi, Angela and Carole shared the role because one of them left mid shoot. The book I referred to is Catherine Deneuve's memoir/diary from many of the shoots in her films that she discusses just about every director's style and abilities really well. It explains, in some ways, why "That Obscure Object of Desire" did not fall apart as a film ... given the horrid circumstances that took place ... my guess being that someone did not like Bunuel's temperament and changes, and I can see how a "method" actor would have problems with this easily enough ... the character is not "fluid" and neither does it "expand", and Bunuel's film makes a totally fun mess of the whole thing. I would have liked to hear/see Fernando Rey's comments on the whole thing! Quote from Bunuel's book (also on Wiki!!!): In 1977, in Madrid, when I was in despair after a tempestuous argument with an actress who'd brought the shooting of That Obscure Object of Desire to a halt, the producer, Serge Silberman, decided to abandon the film altogether. The considerable financial loss was depressing us both until one evening, when we were drowning our sorrows in a bar, I suddenly had the idea (after two dry martinis) of using two actresses in the same role, a tactic that had never been tried before. Although I made the suggestion as a joke, Silberman loved it, and the film was saved.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 02 2021 at 14:24
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it is interesting to see what people call "weird". I would for example not call "Rashomon" (my favorite movie of all times) weird ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 02 2021 at 14:55
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Another film I could mention is De Skrigende Halse (The Screaming Throats) from 1993, though it is principially a TV movie (it debuted on Danish television that year). Sadly I don't think it can be found with subtitles of any kind. It's a hilarious satire on the 80's punk scene in Denmark, especially the more pretentious corners of it. It centers around the "death cult punk band" De Skrigende Halse. The film is a cult classic here, and there are very dedicated people who know all the dialogue by heart. Sort of a Danish equivalent to Spinal Tap...
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 02 2021 at 16:58
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MortSahlFan: Weird is so subjective as so alluded to. So indeed, anything that seems different what one is used to can seem weird. I expect that a lot of films that I like would seem weird to others. Your list doesn't strike me as weird (I won't say that I've seen all of them, but I have seen a lot of them -- many not for a very long time). Some films are going to seem more bizarre and surreal to me. A film like A Clockwork Orange is weird in its way and other films have their unusual moments (or scenarios). The Deer Hunter has a strangeness, and Ordet does for its fantasy qualities. Love M and I can see why you'd include it. Could also include The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari. And of course Fellini. Seem to recall without looking through it again that you mention La Dolce Vita (my mother was in the film in a scene but left on the cutting room floor). 8 and a Half and Satiricon are two I might well mention in a long list. And for those who like 8 and a Half, consider Greenaway's 8 and a Half Women (he has many oddities, and is a favourite filmmaker of mine). Porcille is one that I love that could be called weird by some. So could something like The Man Who Fell to Earth. Something like Tetsuo may be more obviously weird, and a film like Funky Forest is deliberately bizarre (not a fave of mine -- too weird and icky for the sake of it I feel). Holy Motors and Gummo are a couple other favourite films that I would consider to be of the more bizarre quality (or The Bothersome Man, City of Lost Children, or On The Silver Globe as a sort of exercise in imagination)/And the modern faves of mine, Under the Skin and The Lobster. And various Lars von Trier could count. Something I'd like to mention is Lindsay Anderson's If.. and O Lucky Man (which have dark comedy aspects, and then the third in that kind of Travis series was Britannia Hospital). I'd love to curate a bizarre films festival -- mind you, I'd love to work on most any film festival. To some a film that depicts Jesus having a food fight at the last supper would be really weird. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 17:13
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Time Trap (2017) Pretty awesome low-budget sci-fi flick. Some say bad acting (characters), I say there are people in real life that "behave" that way. Some say begins bad, gets better; I say it is a "normal" thing that things get more thrilling as you get further in an adventure. Bizarre and inventive 9/10 |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 20:00
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This movie is strange. |
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Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 20:15
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