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    Posted: August 26 2020 at 12:08
This time, I'm Going for the One Yes album with no keyboard player: Magnification is the 19th Yes studio album (excluding the ABWH album) and the final album with Jon Anderson. Magnification is also The Yes Album with the sole distinction of having a four-piece line-up with no keyboard player, with orchestral arrangements taking the place of the keyboard parts. This would mark the first time the band had worked with an orchestra since the Time and a Word album in 1970.  Igor Khoroshev was originally intended to play keyboards on the album, but he was involved in a backstage "incident" with two female security guards when he came Close to the Edge of being arrested during the non-stop Relayer race of the  U.S. Masterworks tour. There was Talk of recording another album after the tour, but to avoid any further Drama, Igor Khoroshev was dropped from the Yes line-up. The four-piece line-up for the Magnification album featured a re-Union of regular Yes members:- Jon Anderson; Chris Squire; Steve Howe & Alan White. The recording process went fairly smoothly, apart from Steve Howe's Fragile ego being slightly dented by having his guitar parts swamped by the orchestral arrangements. Magnification was released on September 10th 2001 in the U.K and was originally intended for release in North America on September 11th 2001, but Heaven & Earth was rocked by the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington DC, and the album was rescheduled for a later U.S release on December 4th 2001. The album barely made it onto the bottom rung of The Ladder in the album charts upon its release, only reaching No. 71 in the U.K, and No. 186 in the U.S Billboard 200, and only lasted one week in both charts. Magnification turned out to be one of the worst-selling Yes albums, in complete contrast to the best-selling 90125 and Tales from Topographic Ocean albums. Magnification has been a Big Generator of debate amongst Yes fans over the years, contrasting between those who love the album, and others who regard it as something of a bad Tormato in the Yes canon. I really like the Magnification album though, and if you Open Your Eyes and ears and give the album a listen, then maybe you'll gain the Keys to Ascension too, or maybe you won't, whichever the case may be. Anyway, before I Fly from Here tonight, I'll post the ten Yessongs from the album below so you can judge the album for yourselves. Smile
 
All albums in Red Highlights by Yes
 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2020 at 12:57
Magnificate magnification!!!!


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Very good album and maybe the last really good one they did although I still probably prefer the ladder over it by just a little bit.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

... I'll post the ten Yessongs from the album below so you can judge the album for yourselves. Smile
 
All albums in Red Highlights by Yes
 




Are all of those officially sanctioned? Avoid posting full albums whether it be in one video or many. This is what I have been trying to say in the Krautrock thread and other topics. It also makes opening the page hard for people. I have hid the post with all of the tracks.

Like I explained in the Krautrock thread:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It has been the expectation and request that people avoid posting full album videos (embeds) and significant material from albums (so not many tracks from an album) at the forums generally (not just this topic) without permission/allowance from the artists or labels. I would think that a hyperlink may be preferable (say to bandcamp, spotify or youtube) if wishing to exhibit more than a portion. This is partially out of respect for the artists, not just any risk of complaints, not all of which have approved of people sharing music this way. When it's come to formal evaluation for placement, full album embeds have been more common.

People who want to check out the music probably wouldn't mind clicking on, say, a youtube link anyway. I for one would rather just check out someone's favoured track from an album, and If I like that, then I will listen to more. I don't think that many people bother checking out the music in many of these topics anyway. I wish people did more because I like that kind of interactivity and to hear people's impressions of music. Of course with some albums they can only be found in full (and some albums have but one piece of music)....


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2020 at 15:21
What a trip ! I listened to Magnification last night, excellent album for the most part.
Dreamtime is the pick of the bunch for me, but it’s a classy album in general.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote HolyMoly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2020 at 15:38
Give Love Each Day is the highlight for me, though the whole thing is quite strong even for a Yes album. I think I remember that the conceit for this album was a de-emphasis on keyboards, in favor of acoustic orchestral arrangements. Kinda ballsy, and it worked great.

Back to Give Love Each Day — I imagined it as my “wedding song” for a while (I wasn’t married yet), and never pursued the idea too far because 7+ minutes of unfamiliar music won’t win the crowd over at a wedding. Yet they wet their pants over “Copacabana” (yes, played at my wedding because I’m nice), which lasts for what feels like a small eternity. Go figure.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2020 at 23:02
I think it's a very good album. Dreamtime and Spirit of Survival are some of my favourite songs since the 70's, and In the Presence of I think is the closest they ever got to achieving that 70's sound again since then. I only wish Wakeman had been with them for that album (and tour)... that piano intro for ItPO really sounds so much better with him playing it.
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Yep its a good album and sparked an even better tour.
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Logan has kindly restored all of my Yes: Magnification videos which will hopefully reinvigorate this thread with a Big Generator of renewed energy. Thumbs Up
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why post videos? Confused Everyone knows this album. 

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I don't see any videos...but agree with Cristi.  Why post them?  With a band like Yes, most people have either (a) bought the album or (b) heard the album and disliked it or (c) stopped listening to them after Relayer or Going for the One. I would suggest that if you feel the desire to do so to create a playlist on YouTube and then just add a link to your thread to take a listener to the YouTube playlist.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

why post videos? Confused Everyone knows this album. 

I happen to love watching YouTube music videos on my big screen TV, which is something you can't do with a CD album, so there's your answer. If you don't like the videos I posted then that's Your Prerogative (minus the Britney Spears video). Smile
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It's weird that only I can see the videos for the Magnification album at the top of the page. Confused
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

why post videos? Confused Everyone knows this album. 

I happen to love watching YouTube music videos on my big screen TV, which is something you can't do with a CD album, so there's your answer. If you don't like the videos I posted then that's Your Prerogative (minus the Britney Spears video). Smile

you can watch the videos on youtube, you do not have to post them here on PA. Who are you posting them for? Yourself?! Confused
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

why post videos? Confused Everyone knows this album. 

I happen to love watching YouTube music videos on my big screen TV, which is something you can't do with a CD album, so there's your answer. If you don't like the videos I posted then that's Your Prerogative (minus the Britney Spears video). Smile

you can watch the videos on youtube, you do not have to post them here on PA. Who are you posting them for? Yourself?! Confused
What would be the point in posting videos just for myself when the whole idea behind a music site such as this one is to *SHARE* music with friends. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

why post videos? Confused Everyone knows this album. 

I happen to love watching YouTube music videos on my big screen TV, which is something you can't do with a CD album, so there's your answer. If you don't like the videos I posted then that's Your Prerogative (minus the Britney Spears video). Smile

you can watch the videos on youtube, you do not have to post them here on PA. Who are you posting them for? Yourself?! Confused
What would be the point in posting videos just for myself when the whole idea behind a music site such as this one is to *SHARE* music with friends. Tongue

let me explain again, I don't think you've understood my point. 
There is NO NEED to post videos of the most famous prog band, on a prog site (of all places). Simple as that. 

If you post a video of some obscure band, I get it, but Yes videos? It's not necessary. 


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

you can watch the videos on youtube, you do not have to post them here on PA.
 
Actually, there is an advantage to watching videos on PA compared to watching videos on YouTube: ads... on PA, one only gets banner ads, in contrast to intrusive video ads on YouTube.
 
 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

you can watch the videos on youtube, you do not have to post them here on PA.
 
Actually, there is an advantage to watching videos on PA compared to watching videos on YouTube: ads... on PA, one only gets banner ads, in contrast to intrusive video ads on YouTube.
 
 

OMG, do you want him to post all the songs on Magnification in this thread, again? 
Why are you encouraging him to do this redundant thing? 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

OMG, do you want him to post all the songs on Magnification in this thread, again? 
Why are you encouraging him to do this redundant thing? 
 
No, I get your point about posting videos of familiar music. I just thought I'd point out something I noticed about inline videos on PA.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:00
Actually, I don't think that the "redundancy" is a problem for PA. The fact of embedding a video on a PA-page can be considered as a republication and then copyright comes into play. When you're only referring (linking) to it that is not the case. It is PA that is considered being the (re-)publisher - and thus accountable for republication and eventual copyright infringement -, not the member that embedded the video.
Most artists (as copyright-holders) probably wouldn't mind the embedding of one or two of their works, but when it is an whole album it becomes a different kind of thing.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:02
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

 
Actually, there is an advantage to watching videos on PA compared to watching videos on YouTube: ads... on PA, one only gets banner ads, in contrast to intrusive video ads on YouTube.
 
 
I was going to mention the big advantage of not having annoying YouTube ads on ProgArchives too. Thumbs Up
 
Also, if I spend time searching for and posting the very best YT videos for an album, it saves any of my proggy friends (including Cristi) having to do the same. Smile
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