Yes: Magnification (2001)
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Topic: Yes: Magnification (2001)
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Yes: Magnification (2001)
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 12:08
This time, I'm Going for the One Yes album with no keyboard player: Magnification is the 19th Yes studio album (excluding the ABWH album) and the final album with Jon Anderson. Magnification is also The Yes Album with the sole distinction of having a four-piece line-up with no keyboard player, with orchestral arrangements taking the place of the keyboard parts. This would mark the first time the band had worked with an orchestra since the Time and a Word album in 1970. Igor Khoroshev was originally intended to play keyboards on the album, but he was involved in a backstage "incident" with two female security guards when he came Close to the Edge of being arrested during the non-stop Relayer race of the U.S. Masterworks tour. There was Talk of recording another album after the tour, but to avoid any further Drama, Igor Khoroshev was dropped from the Yes line-up. The four-piece line-up for the Magnification album featured a re-Union of regular Yes members:- Jon Anderson; Chris Squire; Steve Howe & Alan White. The recording process went fairly smoothly, apart from Steve Howe's Fragile ego being slightly dented by having his guitar parts swamped by the orchestral arrangements. Magnification was released on September 10th 2001 in the U.K and was originally intended for release in North America on September 11th 2001, but Heaven & Earth was rocked by the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington DC, and the album was rescheduled for a later U.S release on December 4th 2001. The album barely made it onto the bottom rung of The Ladder in the album charts upon its release, only reaching No. 71 in the U.K, and No. 186 in the U.S Billboard 200, and only lasted one week in both charts. Magnification turned out to be one of the worst-selling Yes albums, in complete contrast to the best-selling 90125 and Tales from Topographic Ocean albums. Magnification has been a Big Generator of debate amongst Yes fans over the years, contrasting between those who love the album, and others who regard it as something of a bad Tormato in the Yes canon. I really like the Magnification album though, and if you Open Your Eyes and ears and give the album a listen, then maybe you'll gain the Keys to Ascension too, or maybe you won't, whichever the case may be. Anyway, before I Fly from Here tonight, I'll post the ten Yessongs from the album below so you can judge the album for yourselves.  All albums in Red Highlights by Yes  |
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 12:57
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Magnificate magnification!!!! :D Very good album and maybe the last really good one they did although I still probably prefer the ladder over it by just a little bit.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 13:05
Are all of those officially sanctioned? Avoid posting full albums whether it be in one video or many. This is what I have been trying to say in the Krautrock thread and other topics. It also makes opening the page hard for people. I have hid the post with all of the tracks. Like I explained in the Krautrock thread:
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Psychedelic Paul wrote:Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 15:21
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What a trip ! I listened to Magnification last night, excellent album for the most part. Dreamtime is the pick of the bunch for me, but it’s a classy album in general. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 15:38
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Give Love Each Day is the highlight for me, though the whole thing is quite strong even for a Yes album. I think I remember that the conceit for this album was a de-emphasis on keyboards, in favor of acoustic orchestral arrangements. Kinda ballsy, and it worked great. Back to Give Love Each Day — I imagined it as my “wedding song” for a while (I wasn’t married yet), and never pursued the idea too far because 7+ minutes of unfamiliar music won’t win the crowd over at a wedding. Yet they wet their pants over “Copacabana” (yes, played at my wedding because I’m nice), which lasts for what feels like a small eternity. Go figure.  ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 23:02
| I think it's a very good album. Dreamtime and Spirit of Survival are some of my favourite songs since the 70's, and In the Presence of I think is the closest they ever got to achieving that 70's sound again since then. I only wish Wakeman had been with them for that album (and tour)... that piano intro for ItPO really sounds so much better with him playing it. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 27 2020 at 00:32
| Yep its a good album and sparked an even better tour. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:07
Logan has kindly restored all of my Yes: Magnification videos which will hopefully reinvigorate this thread with a Big Generator of renewed energy. 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:10
why post videos?  Everyone knows this album. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:14
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I don't see any videos...but agree with Cristi. Why post them? With a band like Yes, most people have either (a) bought the album or (b) heard the album and disliked it or (c) stopped listening to them after Relayer or Going for the One. I would suggest that if you feel the desire to do so to create a playlist on YouTube and then just add a link to your thread to take a listener to the YouTube playlist. ------------- 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:17
I happen to love watching YouTube music videos on my big screen TV, which is something you can't do with a CD album, so there's your answer. If you don't like the videos I posted then that's Your Prerogative (minus the Britney Spears video).
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:19
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It's weird that only I can see the videos for the Magnification album at the top of the page.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:20
you can watch the videos on youtube, you do not have to post them here on PA. Who are you posting them for? Yourself?!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:24
What would be the point in posting videos just for myself when the whole idea behind a music site such as this one is to *SHARE* music with friends.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:28
let me explain again, I don't think you've understood my point. There is NO NEED to post videos of the most famous prog band, on a prog site (of all places). Simple as that. If you post a video of some obscure band, I get it, but Yes videos? It's not necessary.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:38
Actually, there is an advantage to watching videos on PA compared to watching videos on YouTube: ads... on PA, one only gets banner ads, in contrast to intrusive video ads on YouTube. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:42
OMG, do you want him to post all the songs on Magnification in this thread, again? Why are you encouraging him to do this redundant thing?
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:50
No, I get your point about posting videos of familiar music. I just thought I'd point out something I noticed about inline videos on PA. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:00
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Actually, I don't think that the "redundancy" is a problem for PA. The fact of embedding a video on a PA-page can be considered as a republication and then copyright comes into play. When you're only referring (linking) to it that is not the case. It is PA that is considered being the (re-)publisher - and thus accountable for republication and eventual copyright infringement -, not the member that embedded the video. Most artists (as copyright-holders) probably wouldn't mind the embedding of one or two of their works, but when it is an whole album it becomes a different kind of thing.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:02
I was going to mention the big advantage of not having annoying YouTube ads on ProgArchives too. Also, if I spend time searching for and posting the very best YT videos for an album, it saves any of my proggy friends (including Cristi) having to do the same.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:05
I was talking about the redundancy of Yes videos. Why doesn't anybody understand a word I say today?
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:06
I don't use youtube to listen to Yes, i have my Yes albums for that.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:09
I do understand what you say, but you may not understand what I am saying: "redundancy" is not a legal problem for PA, copyright infringement is. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:09
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^^ Fair enough, but not everyone feels the same way as you do.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:12
copyright, that too. I was talking about how annoying it is to me to see famous bands videos posted all over the place...
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:20
I agree with you on that, but I think the reason that the videos in this thread were hidden/deleted is because of a (lack of) permission/allowance question Logan referred to in his post (and we haven't discussed the bandwith it is taking up for PA, which is probably not entirely free...).
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:25
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Suitkees is getting it. Embedding whole albums (in one video or many) and significant portions of the album is discouraged both for legal reasons and out of courtesy to the artists unless officially sanctioned. We have been more tolerant of it in Suggest New bands and Artists for evaluatory purposes. This is not your site or my site, but the owner's site, and we use this site according to certain rules and expectations. If not everyone agrees it doesn't matter as it is not everyone's site and not everyone has to deal with the fallout of complaints or legal action. I said that linking to youtube could be okay. You can make your own playlists on youtube and hyperlink to that if you want. I have tried to explain this several times. Feel free to post, say, your favourite track from the album (if an album has but one track that would be a problem if not done with permission), or provide a link to a playlist. I have not heard Magnification and have no desire to, and this is not about how well known the band or album is. I usually keep a youtube tab open when browsing this site, by the way. If the OP can still see the videos that's because I only hid then, and when the OP is logged in then he/she can see those posts, as can any moderators. I have not re-instated those. if this site is not for you, so be it. You can make your site with your own rules, or lack thereof, and is you face legal consequences or complaints, then you can deal with that at your own site. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 13:43
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^ Thanks for explaining why I'm the only one able to view the Yes videos at the top of page one. I realise now that the only reason I couldn't see the videos before is because I wasn't logged in. On the subject of posting full albums: Are you saying I'm no longer allowed to post full albums on my Prog Britannia blog, bearing in mind I've been posting full albums on there to accompany my album reviews since September last year  By the way, I did once have my own music site with my own set of rules, up until October 2015 when the kitty ran out of money.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 14:01
| I don't know why this is so hard to explain, avoid embedding full albums without permission from the artist or label. it doesn't matter if it's the Prog Britannia thread, the Krautrock thread, a Yes topic..., the policy remains the same. Hyperlink to a youtube playlist if you must. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 14:03
Okay, thanks Logan.
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