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    Posted: November 26 2017 at 14:24
For me SBS is too unique, sophisticated and musically diverse album to be considered plain heavy metal.
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Points: 20623 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2017 at 16:53
Well...they are listed here as Prog Related not as heavy metal....so my guess is that most don't consider them just a metal band.
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Yes - but doesn't mean to say it is not without depth, complexity, light and shade. However, as the title track has more distinct classic guitar riffs in it than most metal bands show in a whole album - it is metal for the discerning!
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It is heavy metal, in the same way that Maiden is heavy metal. Just because there's more going on than you may find on a Saxon or Judas Priest album, doesn't mean it's not HM. It is heavy metal, regardless of how PA chooses to define it.
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In a way, the fist two records were just as sophisticated, you have blues, folk, jazz, big band inspired music (like the main beat to Faeries Wear Boots), what was then known as pop, etc. In fact, I'd say SBS is more straightforward than ST and Paranoid.
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Sabbath always had a level of sophistication and inventive edge (all the lps with Ozzy at least) which made them more than just a heavy metal band. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was, IMO, their intentionally most sophisticated record, along with (the arguably less successful) 'Sabotage'.

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Sabbath were always more interesting than "plain heavy metal", at least during the Ozzy years...after that they got very formulaic and boring to my ears.  I love the 1st 5 albums pretty equally and of those I'd say SBS was the most inventive...but historically it's the album Iommi & Ozzy say was the hardest to complete and that they ran out of ideas so go figure Wink
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It's 65% metal, with 2 rock songs and the track "Fluff"
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:


Sabbath always had a level of sophistication and inventive edge (all the lps with Ozzy at least) which made them more than just a heavy metal band. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was, IMO, their intentionally most sophisticated record, along with (the arguably less successful) 'Sabotage'.


I agree, although I prefer Sabotage. That was the album that got me into Sabbath as a kid.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

It is heavy metal, in the same way that Maiden is heavy metal. Just because there's more going on than you may find on a Saxon or Judas Priest album, doesn't mean it's not HM. It is heavy metal, regardless of how PA chooses to define it.

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Oh, this need for genre-fication. It's Sabbath. They don't need no stinkin' genre.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Oh, this need for genre-fication. It's Sabbath. They don't need no stinkin' genre.


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Anthrax did a cover of the title song and it sounded Heavy Metal
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The Cardigans did a cover of the title track too and it sounded like pretty convincing lounge-pop.
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Points: 5538 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2017 at 05:06
Black Sabbath is Black Sabbath.
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Proto semi-post new wave metal with a hint of klezmer.
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Points: 5538 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2017 at 05:26
Well, at least they have always behaved like old school heavy rockers should behave.
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Who decided there is no sophistication in heavy metal?
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