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Progosopher 
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Joined: May 12 2009 Location: Coolwood Status: Offline Points: 6472 |
 Posted: April 16 2017 at 12:58 |
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Actually, there are live versions available where Howe makes the song his own - by adding an extensive solo to the end of it. The song structure itself is quite basic, which is why Howe does not like playing it. I visibly saw him sigh as he went through it during the Union tour.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Tom Ozric
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Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
Posted: April 15 2017 at 23:23 |
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Random thought - Squire was Nick Beggs' idol - even before he formed Art Nouveau / Kajagoogoo.
I doubt Beggs would ever step into the shoes of his idol. Haven't heard much from Pomeroy..... Sherwood fills Squire's shoes in a roundabout (no pun intended) sort of way. I know Beggs played bass at times for the Genesis revisited stuff - Rutherford's bass isn't exactly easy to play !! |
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infocat
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Posted: April 15 2017 at 21:28 |
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Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
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grantman
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Posted: April 15 2017 at 08:08 |
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instead of who,s better lets assume all the roads yes take is one at least i think that what jon believes.
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stewe
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Posted: April 15 2017 at 07:09 |
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Lee Pomeroy, excellent bassist, apparenlty one of the most demanded today (along with Nick Beggs). What I know, he played with Wakeman on number of albums and with ELO. I saw him also with reformed It Bites with John Mitchell. |
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Tom Ozric
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Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
Posted: April 15 2017 at 01:32 |
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Yes should change their name to 'The Prog Collective' - I'm certain Billy wouldn't mind
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 15 2017 at 00:45 |
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Practically every member of CIRCA: has been in Yes at some time, that was the point of the joke. |
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Dellinger
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Posted: April 14 2017 at 20:20 |
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Wasn't the drummer that's worked on CIRCA the one that helped Yes out while Alan was unavailable last year? In any case, if they were to get a drummer from a related band, I wish they had gotten the help of Carl Palmer. |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: April 14 2017 at 12:37 |
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Apparently Anderson has an equal share to the name but can't use the Dean logo. Guess with Chris dead he saw no need to continue the gentlemen's agreement.
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Ian
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Shiny globe
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Posted: April 14 2017 at 11:20 |
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So many days of being together all the time with the same crew and oportunities to know everything about each other, including what gets on the nerves... How could we expect better situations?
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Dean
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Posted: April 14 2017 at 01:52 |
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Maybe the guys in CIRCA: (past and present) can help them out.
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Dellinger
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 21:09 |
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I did listen to Awaken on Youtube, and as you say, I felt Rabin butchered the guitar parts. He is suposed to be trying to play things as he would have recorded them originally, on his own style or whatever, instead of trying to replicate Howe's playing. Either way, Howe is much better. Still, if I get the chance to see either version of Yes live, I would choose ARW. Perhaps Rabin will get lured into his film scores again, and needing a new guitar player, if Anderson and Wakeman still can't resolve their problems with Howe, they I think they should try and get to work with Colin Tench. And if the other Yes were to part ways with Downes, then they should get the guy from Iamthemorning. |
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Dellinger
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 21:00 |
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They already had their reunion at the Hall of Fame, and what I have read is that they didn't end up very happy and don't plan to work together again. So, if the Hall of Fame didn't do the trick, I don't expect it to happen again. Still, I so much would love to be able to hear Anderson, Wakeman and Howe together again. |
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infocat
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 20:36 |
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Who plays bass for ARW?
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Catcher10
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 15:22 |
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This whole thing is sounding like the "who's on first" comedy skit....sheesh!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 11:09 |
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I can't believe that Union had no less than 13 keyboard players contributing (including Wakeman himself). As if Rick couldn't do it all himself...........
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twosteves
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 10:20 |
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Watch you tube concerts--rabin butchers genius Howe's parts on most songs---and the rearrangement of an amazing song like Awaken is just horrible---although Jon Rick and rhythm section is first rate compared to Howes Yes--- I will probably pass on both versions---a curse on both your houses The band of peace an love should practice what they preach.
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Dean
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 09:35 |
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 can they afford to get that many sessions musicians together again? |
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chopper
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Posted: April 13 2017 at 06:55 |
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By all accounts ARW is a much better band than the other Yes, maybe they'll join up and do "Union 2".
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AEProgman
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Posted: April 12 2017 at 17:37 |
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Good grief......I think it truly was over when Squire passed.
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