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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13238 |
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6677670/carlos-santana-santana-iv-supernova-wayne-shorter-herbie-hancock
The last album with this lineup was the splendid Santana III: Santana on lead guitar, Neil Schon 2nd lead guitar, Gregg Rolie on keyboards, Mike Shrieve on drums, and Mike Carabello on percussion/congas. If there is a tour, I am there.
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infocat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 10 2011 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 4671 |
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Who'd-a thunk it?
The Shorter/Hancock collaboration sounds interesting as well. |
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I'll be suspicious until I ehar it.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18792 |
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Been waiting for this album for a while! That line-up is ace.
In case anyone missed it, the Santana Band's longtime percussionist Raul Rekow recently passed away.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20450 |
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From what I gather, there are two different projects in this BB article: - there is the early Santana line-up reunion thing called IV (this has been a few years in the works) - and the Shorter, McL, Hancock thing is another (brand new?) project Soooo, which album were you waiting for such a long time?? ![]() |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18792 |
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![]() Well, if you look at the OP's post, he directly mentions the Santana III line-up. The Supernova band is the more recent project.
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This is so funny. This article is 2 months old and now suddenly pops up everywhere (here, Progressive Ears, Facebook, ...). Every search for more details leads to this or similar articles. The release date remains completely unclear :(
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17990 |
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Yes...been waiting for more news on this news release, I was in Cancun 2 months ago and even people there were asking if it was gonna happen.....Everybody is waiting
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I dug Santana from the start right thru his fusion period, not so much after. In fact, the Havana Moon album is the last I really listen to, so a reunion.....meh. But, if Santana formed a band with Shorter, Hancock and Mahvishnu John, then I'd have a peek. |
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671 |
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I have everything up through Borboletta but after that I lost interest.......from that point on they get less than 3 stars. I can't say I have heard too many of them...are they really that weak from 76 on...?
The original line up were great but will the songs they write have the same spark as the old stuff...?
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20450 |
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The whole point of Santana IV is that this should be the Caravanserai line-up... Not all the dudes that were on 80's & 90's albums. However, you may want to listen to Shape Shifter.... It's an amlazing record in the light of his previous millenium albums (look at the scores/rates it gets just vto convince you) It's almost a return to classic Santana. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38011 |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18792 |
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IMO, no. Not at all. They just aren't fusion. They're more "Latin rock" in the vein of the first two albums, with a sound updated to the time. I really like Marathon, Zebop and Shango a LOT. I don't think there's really a "bad" Santana until the guest artist nonsense commenced in the late 1990s. And definitely listen to Carlos' solo albums Illuminations, The Swing of Delight, Havana Moon and Blues For Salvador!!!
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It's like he is redoing everything from the early days, 2 albums by 2 different band line ups :) i.e. Abraxas (Santana II) and Santana III the one band - and then came Caravanserai first one album with new line up after he fired his previous band. Great album too, nothing sounds like Caravanserai that he has ever done prior or after. My favourite albums are Abraxas and Santana III, thus IV would be the album out of any other artist that I am looking forward to get/hear/buy/bounce... everything
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Once I was driving on the freeway to a great record store to pick up some music, and I had this ritual of not putting on a CD or Sirius. I just switched between a couple frequencies (stations)... ...out of the speakers came "Batuka," crackling with so much incendiary energy that it pretty much ruined the rest of the drive because no other piece of spontaneously aired music could match it!
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I just read this and I had ordered some merch from the Santana store before that arrived Friday - a hat, a bumper sticker, a bag, and some custom guitar picks thrown in the order for good measure.
![]() I expect something really good to come out of this. Sure it won't likely be as progressive as Santana was at his peak progressive period which came after working with these musicians, but it will still be good music. (Verdict's still out on the picks... heheheheh) |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20450 |
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Hi Sonia Actually Carlos got sort of fired by the rest of the band (they even did a tour without him)... Admittedly, they were all screwed up by too much drugs at the time. If you want another Caravanserai, try Borboletta.. it's a bit of a little sister (despite a fairly different line-up), though not as perfect as its bigger sibbling. |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Hey Sean, I was under the impression that it was the opposite ![]() ![]() ![]() Borboletta, sounds familiar to me (maybe it isn't). I'll listen thank you, very much.
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Nah Sonia, if you want something akin to Caravanserai then go for Lotus. Hands down the best release Santana ever did - hell even the cuts from Caravanserai sound sooooo much better on it.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Ha! Yes, this is the live album, I never listened to this one before, wasn't sure if the sound quality was any good. Now, I must! Wow, thank you, David!
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