Santana IV due for release with original band
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Topic: Santana IV due for release with original band
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Subject: Santana IV due for release with original band
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 08:39
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6677670/carlos-santana-santana-iv-supernova-wayne-shorter-herbie-hancock" rel="nofollow - http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6677670/carlos-santana-santana-iv-supernova-wayne-shorter-herbie-hancock The last album with this lineup was the splendid Santana III: Santana on lead guitar, Neil Schon 2nd lead guitar, Gregg Rolie on keyboards, Mike Shrieve on drums, and Mike Carabello on percussion/congas. If there is a tour, I am there. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 16:24
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Who'd-a thunk it? The Shorter/Hancock collaboration sounds interesting as well. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 17:10
I'll be suspicious until I ehar it.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 17:57
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Been waiting for this album for a while! That line-up is ace. In case anyone missed it, the Santana Band's longtime percussionist Raul Rekow recently passed away.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 02:49
From what I gather, there are two different projects in this BB article: - there is the early Santana line-up reunion thing called IV (this has been a few years in the works) - and the Shorter, McL, Hancock thing is another (brand new?) project Soooo, which album were you waiting for such a long time??  |
verslibre wrote:Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 11:09
 Well, if you look at the OP's post, he directly mentions the Santana III line-up. The Supernova band is the more recent project. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 11:20
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This is so funny. This article is 2 months old and now suddenly pops up everywhere (here, Progressive Ears, Facebook, ...). Every search for more details leads to this or similar articles. The release date remains completely unclear :(
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 12:07
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Yes...been waiting for more news on this news release, I was in Cancun 2 months ago and even people there were asking if it was gonna happen.....Everybody is waiting -------------   
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: November 17 2015 at 07:23
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I dug Santana from the start right thru his fusion period, not so much after. In fact, the Havana Moon album is the last I really listen to, so a reunion.....meh. But, if Santana formed a band with Shorter, Hancock and Mahvishnu John, then I'd have a peek. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 17 2015 at 10:41
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I have everything up through Borboletta but after that I lost interest.......from that point on they get less than 3 stars. I can't say I have heard too many of them...are they really that weak from 76 on...? The original line up were great but will the songs they write have the same spark as the old stuff...? ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 17 2015 at 14:53
The whole point of Santana IV is that this should be the Caravanserai line-up... Not all the dudes that were on 80's & 90's albums. However, you may want to listen to Shape Shifter.... It's an amlazing record in the light of his previous millenium albums (look at the scores/rates it gets just vto convince you) It's almost a return to classic Santana. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38011 |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 17 2015 at 16:00
IMO, no. Not at all. They just aren't fusion. They're more "Latin rock" in the vein of the first two albums, with a sound updated to the time. I really like Marathon, Zebop and Shango a LOT. I don't think there's really a "bad" Santana until the guest artist nonsense commenced in the late 1990s. And definitely listen to Carlos' solo albums Illuminations, The Swing of Delight, Havana Moon and Blues For Salvador!!!
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 17 2015 at 18:59
It's like he is redoing everything from the early days, 2 albums by 2 different band line ups :) i.e. Abraxas (Santana II) and Santana III the one band - and then came Caravanserai first one album with new line up after he fired his previous band. Great album too, nothing sounds like Caravanserai that he has ever done prior or after. My favourite albums are Abraxas and Santana III, thus IV would be the album out of any other artist that I am looking forward to get/hear/buy/bounce... everything
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 17 2015 at 19:26
Once I was driving on the freeway to a great record store to pick up some music, and I had this ritual of not putting on a CD or Sirius. I just switched between a couple frequencies (stations)... ...out of the speakers came "Batuka," crackling with so much incendiary energy that it pretty much ruined the rest of the drive because no other piece of spontaneously aired music could match it! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 17 2015 at 20:07
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I just read this and I had ordered some merch from the Santana store before that arrived Friday - a hat, a bumper sticker, a bag, and some custom guitar picks thrown in the order for good measure. I expect something really good to come out of this. Sure it won't likely be as progressive as Santana was at his peak progressive period which came after working with these musicians, but it will still be good music. (Verdict's still out on the picks... heheheheh) ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 18 2015 at 05:06
Hi Sonia Actually Carlos got sort of fired by the rest of the band (they even did a tour without him)... Admittedly, they were all screwed up by too much drugs at the time. If you want another Caravanserai, try Borboletta.. it's a bit of a little sister (despite a fairly different line-up), though not as perfect as its bigger sibbling. |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 18 2015 at 07:25
Hey Sean, I was under the impression that it was the opposite   Borboletta, sounds familiar to me (maybe it isn't). I'll listen thank you, very much.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 18 2015 at 10:26
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Nah Sonia, if you want something akin to Caravanserai then go for Lotus. Hands down the best release Santana ever did - hell even the cuts from Caravanserai sound sooooo much better on it. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 18 2015 at 13:28
Ha! Yes, this is the live album, I never listened to this one before, wasn't sure if the sound quality was any good. Now, I must! Wow, thank you, David!
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 18 2015 at 13:37
Yeah I had second thoughts regarding the quality, sorry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2-EeDRV_VA" rel="nofollow - This is much better ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 18 2015 at 13:40
Ah, David
I didn't mean the video you posted, I meant the album actual sound recording but yay thank you even more  |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 18 2015 at 13:51
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Aahh I rather like it myself. It's raw but clear. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |