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Padraic
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:30 |
The T wrote:
I've been in three of the four. And oh how I long to go to Bayreuth one day to the Festspiele.
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Coincidentally I'm listening to Tristan und Isolde right now.
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timothy leary
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:31 |
The T wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Please BaldFriede don't insult your own country by daring to compare Bavaria (or any place on Earth really) to Texas |
There is a common saying in Germany: "Bavaria is no longer Germany and not yet Austria".
Many things are different in Bavaria. It is for example the only one of the 16 federal states of Germany in which there is no Christian Democratic Union (one of the major political parties in Germany) but where you have the Christian Social Union instead. The CSU is a sister party of the CDU, but there are often tensions between them. These tensions have a big impact on the political life in Germany.
In the days of Franz Josef Strauss the CSU got around 70% of the votes in Bavaria, a lot more than any other party in any other federal state. They still get by far the most votes in Bavaria. And the CSU is the most conservative of all democratic parties in Germany; it borders on right-wing extremism at times.
| I was aware of that )though not of all those details) and I know Bavaria troubled history with extremism. But:
1. I have been there twice and oh my is it a beautiful place, quite unlike the horrid nothingness of TX 2. It has given us plenty of great culture, quite unlike TX 3. Even its extremists are probably less stupid than the ones in TX |
The horrid nothingness of Texas
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The T
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:33 |
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The T
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:37 |
timothy leary wrote:
The T wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Please BaldFriede don't insult your own country by daring to compare Bavaria (or any place on Earth really) to Texas |
There is a common saying in Germany: "Bavaria is no longer Germany and not yet Austria".
Many things are different in Bavaria. It is for example the only one of the 16 federal states of Germany in which there is no Christian Democratic Union (one of the major political parties in Germany) but where you have the Christian Social Union instead. The CSU is a sister party of the CDU, but there are often tensions between them. These tensions have a big impact on the political life in Germany.
In the days of Franz Josef Strauss the CSU got around 70% of the votes in Bavaria, a lot more than any other party in any other federal state. They still get by far the most votes in Bavaria. And the CSU is the most conservative of all democratic parties in Germany; it borders on right-wing extremism at times.
| I was aware of that )though not of all those details) and I know Bavaria troubled history with extremism. But:
1. I have been there twice and oh my is it a beautiful place, quite unlike the horrid nothingness of TX 2. It has given us plenty of great culture, quite unlike TX 3. Even its extremists are probably less stupid than the ones in TX | The horrid nothingness of Texas
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Ok the horrid 95% nothingness of TX
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timothy leary
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:40 |
The T wrote:
timothy leary wrote:
The T wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Please BaldFriede don't insult your own country by daring to compare Bavaria (or any place on Earth really) to Texas |
There is a common saying in Germany: "Bavaria is no longer Germany and not yet Austria".
Many things are different in Bavaria. It is for example the only one of the 16 federal states of Germany in which there is no Christian Democratic Union (one of the major political parties in Germany) but where you have the Christian Social Union instead. The CSU is a sister party of the CDU, but there are often tensions between them. These tensions have a big impact on the political life in Germany.
In the days of Franz Josef Strauss the CSU got around 70% of the votes in Bavaria, a lot more than any other party in any other federal state. They still get by far the most votes in Bavaria. And the CSU is the most conservative of all democratic parties in Germany; it borders on right-wing extremism at times.
| I was aware of that )though not of all those details) and I know Bavaria troubled history with extremism. But:
1. I have been there twice and oh my is it a beautiful place, quite unlike the horrid nothingness of TX 2. It has given us plenty of great culture, quite unlike TX 3. Even its extremists are probably less stupid than the ones in TX | The horrid nothingness of Texas
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Nope
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:44 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
^ Sarcasm! And I suspect that percentage is a wee bit low.
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Hard to find data because studies don't all match up but: -less than 2% of polled Australians identify as homosexual -1% of Canadian college students identify as homosexual (an area that frankly most would expect to be higher than national average) -3.6% of polled French people identify as homosexual -2.7% of Irish people identify as homosexual -4.5% of Israeli people identify as either homosexual or bisexual (survey didn't distinguish) -2.4% of Italians identify as either homosexual or bisexual -about 2.5% of Dutch people identify as homosexual -0.9% of New Zealand students -somewhere between 1% and 6% of Britons, depending on the survey you look at. UK Office of National Statistics says 1.5%.
more studies: Bell-Weinberg, 1970 - 2% Billy-Battelle, 1993 - 1.1% Cameron-Ross, 1975 - 3% Catania-NABS, 1992 - 2% FRI, 1983 - 5.4% MacDonald, 1988 - 2% NCHS, 1988 - 3.5% Schmidt, 1987 - 0.6% Trocki, 1988 - 3%
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2% seems like a safe enough average. I'll grant you that somewhere like San Francisco, which is clearly not representative of the rest of the world, was found to be somewhere around 15% homosexuals.
Anyway it's a prog website, not a LGBT website.
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I would have to say that one of the most remarkable things about the numerous court contests regarding the rights of Gays and Lesbians to marry in the United States, not one single opposing party brought up the ratio of Gays and Lesbians as any kind of suitable reason for the exclusion of Gay marriage. Why do you suppose that is? And, more importantly to me, why are you the only one who brought this up in this discussion?
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:48 |
Go home troll
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:52 |
RayRo what is your favorite prog rock band?
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:55 |
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RayRo what is your favorite prog rock band? |
Well, it had to come out sometime: Kansas.
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Padraic
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 14:57 |
My favorite track is "Journey from Mariabronn"
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 15:01 |
The T wrote:
I've been in three of the four. And oh how I long to go to Bayreuth one day to the Festspiele.
So, going back to the subject, that's why I would never compare anything to TX. A place where idiocy takes new forms every day. And on top of that, a very bland looking place. |
It is extremely difficult to get tickets for the Bayreuth festival; we have tried unsuccessfully for years now.
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 15:12 |
Padraic wrote:
My favorite track is "Journey from Mariabronn"
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Yes, one of my favorites from the first album, but I love all the songs on their first 3 albums.
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 15:23 |
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
I've been in three of the four. And oh how I long to go to Bayreuth one day to the Festspiele.
So, going back to the subject, that's why I would never compare anything to TX. A place where idiocy takes new forms every day. And on top of that, a very bland looking place. |
It is extremely difficult to get tickets for the Bayreuth festival; we have tried unsuccessfully for years now.
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I know that too ![Cry Cry](smileys/smiley19.gif) maybe one day before I die I still (in theory) have a few decades ![Tongue Tongue](smileys/smiley17.gif) ...
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 15:24 |
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 16:48 |
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Steve are suspended from the site?
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I missed this as well. What the hell did Steve possibly do to get suspended? Did he question the validity of Close to the Edge being the top rated prog album, or was there some other sacrilege?
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 16:54 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
GKR wrote:
Steve are suspended from the site?
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I missed this as well. What the hell did Steve possibly do to get suspended? Did he question the validity of Close to the Edge being the top rated prog album, or was there some other sacrilege? |
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What?
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 16:58 |
I think he got mad when I told him he takes too many drugs
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 17:02 |
Ah, well, I guess that explains that. Personally, I have found that enormously self-important goodbye threads seldom have the intended effect.
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I think he got mad when I told him he takes too many drugs
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I have consumed a considerable amount of illicit drugs in my lifetime, so I guess that statement wouldn't stir more than a shrug from me. ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted: November 05 2015 at 17:10 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Ah, well, I guess that explains that. Personally, I have found that enormously self-important goodbye threads seldom have the intended effect. |
I've always fancied 'the flounce' for my melodramatic exeunt stage left but I fear I lack the grace and necessary poise so will probably sneak out quietly when no one is watching.
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What?
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