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Phidias ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: August 16 2013 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Is "Seventh son of a seventh son" a real prog album for you?
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13719 |
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Yes. Next?
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7872 |
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No.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Hmm I'd call it an experimental heavy metal album with loads of progressive touches, but prog? No not really, but this is all down to how each of us defines prog, and as time has shown on this board, there are just as many opinions on that as there are users
![]() Great album though - perfect for lifting weights and dogs. Oh and I moved this to the prog related forum.
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Sagichim ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
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Were they trying to make a prog metal album? I don't think so.
It has some of prog rock's features of course but a prog album? IMO No. |
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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I don't think it was meant to be a 'prog album' persay, but Iron Maiden was influenced by many of the 70's prog bands from the very beginning, so there were bound to be similarities. They had always written some longer tracks on their albums up to this point, and they'd always written about historical and fantasy-related stories as well which are trends that continued on 'Seventh Son'. They were going for a concept album though, which is why I think many people make the connection with it being a prog album.
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Phidias ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: August 16 2013 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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You're absolutely right! For myself, I think that SSOASS is a caricature of progrock: -many synthesizers -the introduction restarted at the end -ambient part etc Anyway, it's a great metal album! |
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Phidias ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: August 16 2013 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Not definitely a "prog" album but a complex album! Edited by Phidias - February 01 2014 at 11:31 |
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Phidias ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: August 16 2013 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Yes it's well know: Harris heard Foxtrot and Aqualung when he was young :) , and he has never hidden his attraction to progmusic. That is why I suppose that he wanted to make a prog album!
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28368 |
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Yes to the original question
their prog trilogy
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son Somewhere in Time Powerslave |
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Luis de Sousa ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2008 Location: Wageningen Status: Offline Points: 160 |
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This LP (and the 2 before) created a new genre of music on its own, that is today recognised as prog. The folk that answer "No" to this question are perhaps regarding exclusively the composition structure. If "prog" is taken also as the successful prompting of rock music forward then the answer might be different. The employment of guitar synthesisers and mellotron, the "concept album", the near absence of the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus framework, were all against the trends of the time.
The only problem was that this formula proved successful; too successful for the prog powers that be to acknowledge it. By 1988 Iron Maiden was reaching a more mature audience that compounded with the usual teenage following. If in 1985 dressing an Eddie t-shirt was an act of rebellion, by 1988 even high school teachers would have their Eddie outfits. Some can't possibly conceive such success as prog. |
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30850 |
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Yes, it is a Prog album and yes, it was intentional.
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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Maybe the title song only. Maiden will always be a superb Metal band - all their albums do have Progressively structured songs here and there. Choice band, for sure.
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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I don't think it matters, but it is Iron Maiden's most consistent and best album, so yay for them for making it.
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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That would be more of a return to the style of the 70's as opposed to strictly bucking the current trends. But yes, by your statement it would be true that Seventh Son would be a progressive album. Iron Maiden took heavy metal to a new place. I would think that Seventh Son is just as 'prog' as Operation: Mindcrime. |
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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'The X Factor' is the most amazing, breath-taking album from Maiden I know. Love D'anno, love Dickinson...... But the band truly created something spectacular with Bailey's 'X Factor'. It's gloomy, it's down-beat, it's hideously hated by many - however, this album is my ultimate FAVOURITE fromHarris and his buddies.....
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ole-the-first ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2012 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 1534 |
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'Seventh Son...' is proggy. So rather yes, it's more of a prog than straightforward metal.
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Luis de Sousa ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2008 Location: Wageningen Status: Offline Points: 160 |
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Agreed. Possibly the most rewarding LP from a strict prog-head point of view, though you have to be in for a depressing mood. I own all Maiden and this is the one I listen most to. The only thing SSOASS has that TXF doesn't have is the LP wide plot, its popularity comes more from the mysterious and exciting mood, that fit very well the 1980s. TXF was an LP for the 1990s (released the same year Kurt Cobain died). But the traditional metal-head audience simply wasn't ready for it. |
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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^ Yay !!
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