SSOASS by Maiden
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Topic: SSOASS by Maiden
Posted By: Phidias
Subject: SSOASS by Maiden
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 07:21
| Is "Seventh son of a seventh son" a real prog album for you? |
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 07:37
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Phidias wrote:Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 07:39
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No. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 07:44
Hmm I'd call it an experimental heavy metal album with loads of progressive touches, but prog? No not really, but this is all down to how each of us defines prog, and as time has shown on this board, there are just as many opinions on that as there are users Great album though - perfect for lifting weights and dogs. Oh and I moved this to the prog related forum. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 08:13
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Were they trying to make a prog metal album? I don't think so. It has some of prog rock's features of course but a prog album? IMO No. |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 10:53
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I don't think it was meant to be a 'prog album' persay, but Iron Maiden was influenced by many of the 70's prog bands from the very beginning, so there were bound to be similarities. They had always written some longer tracks on their albums up to this point, and they'd always written about historical and fantasy-related stories as well which are trends that continued on 'Seventh Son'. They were going for a concept album though, which is why I think many people make the connection with it being a prog album. ------------- Want to play mafia? Visit http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com" rel="nofollow - here . |
Posted By: Phidias
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 11:12
You're absolutely right! For myself, I think that SSOASS is a caricature of progrock: -many synthesizers -the introduction restarted at the end -ambient part etc Anyway, it's a great metal album! |
Posted By: Phidias
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 11:30
Not definitely a "prog" album but a complex album! |
Posted By: Phidias
Date Posted: February 01 2014 at 12:09
Yes it's well know: Harris heard Foxtrot and Aqualung when he was young :) , and he has never hidden his attraction to progmusic. That is why I suppose that he wanted to make a prog album!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 02 2014 at 09:23
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Yes to the original question their prog trilogy
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son Somewhere in Time Powerslave |
Posted By: Luis de Sousa
Date Posted: February 04 2014 at 02:22
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This LP (and the 2 before) created a new genre of music on its own, that is today recognised as prog. The folk that answer "No" to this question are perhaps regarding exclusively the composition structure. If "prog" is taken also as the successful prompting of rock music forward then the answer might be different. The employment of guitar synthesisers and mellotron, the "concept album", the near absence of the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus framework, were all against the trends of the time. The only problem was that this formula proved successful; too successful for the prog powers that be to acknowledge it. By 1988 Iron Maiden was reaching a more mature audience that compounded with the usual teenage following. If in 1985 dressing an Eddie t-shirt was an act of rebellion, by 1988 even high school teachers would have their Eddie outfits. Some can't possibly conceive such success as prog. ------------- http://attheedgeoftime.blogspot.com/search/label/music" rel="nofollow - Music musings | http://www.last.fm/user/Luis_de_Sousa" rel="nofollow - Last.fm profile |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 06 2014 at 20:29
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Yes, it is a Prog album and yes, it was intentional. ------------- |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 00:02
| Maybe the title song only. Maiden will always be a superb Metal band - all their albums do have Progressively structured songs here and there. Choice band, for sure. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 00:21
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I don't think it matters, but it is Iron Maiden's most consistent and best album, so yay for them for making it.
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 00:26
That would be more of a return to the style of the 70's as opposed to strictly bucking the current trends. But yes, by your statement it would be true that Seventh Son would be a progressive album. Iron Maiden took heavy metal to a new place. I would think that Seventh Son is just as 'prog' as Operation: Mindcrime. ------------- Want to play mafia? Visit http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com" rel="nofollow - here . |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 02:36
| 'The X Factor' is the most amazing, breath-taking album from Maiden I know. Love D'anno, love Dickinson...... But the band truly created something spectacular with Bailey's 'X Factor'. It's gloomy, it's down-beat, it's hideously hated by many - however, this album is my ultimate FAVOURITE fromHarris and his buddies..... |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 02:40
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'Seventh Son...' is proggy. So rather yes, it's more of a prog than straightforward metal.
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Posted By: Luis de Sousa
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 09:33
Agreed. Possibly the most rewarding LP from a strict prog-head point of view, though you have to be in for a depressing mood. I own all Maiden and this is the one I listen most to. The only thing SSOASS has that TXF doesn't have is the LP wide plot, its popularity comes more from the mysterious and exciting mood, that fit very well the 1980s. TXF was an LP for the 1990s (released the same year Kurt Cobain died). But the traditional metal-head audience simply wasn't ready for it. ------------- http://attheedgeoftime.blogspot.com/search/label/music" rel="nofollow - Music musings | http://www.last.fm/user/Luis_de_Sousa" rel="nofollow - Last.fm profile |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 16:58
^ Yay !! 
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 17:03
 Watch it, you might be banned for this  |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: February 08 2014 at 00:52
It's my favorite too! and as the years go by I find more people who feels like I do |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: February 08 2014 at 08:10
------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Phidias
Date Posted: February 08 2014 at 09:38
It's a very good album ,but there is often a lengthy introduction with each song, it's tiring...
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 08 2014 at 14:44
| ^ Can agree with the looong, generally quieter intros, but it just works for me. And Harris never sounded better. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 08 2014 at 20:34
| I would say it's proggy rather than out and out prog. Regardless, it's my favourite of the Bruce era (my favourite Maiden album is Killers by a long shot). I love the sinister atmosphere that pervades the whole album, it made his operatic delivery a little more palatable for me. And there are some really electrifying passages of music, the kind of stuff that you don't really expect from Maiden. One of their boldest and most well executed albums. |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: February 09 2014 at 16:49
Yes quite true, something they did also on their last two albums. I dig those longer intros though. I think it suits the subject matters of their songs. ------------- Want to play mafia? Visit http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com" rel="nofollow - here . |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2014 at 04:46
NO a great album, but no.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 10 2014 at 16:55
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I don't consider it a prog album......Its an Iron Maiden album for me. -------------   
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