Lazy vs Since I've been loving you

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Finnforest wrote: TODDLER wrote: Guitarists who find Page laughable...later discover that his songs require precision and are technical in some cases. They are baffled and ask..."How can he get away with being sloppy?" Because he's Jimmy Page. Because he can. What else can you say really? I hear you Toddler.  I've heard it for years, how much better Blackmore/Beck/Clapton/Satriani are than Jimmy Page, he is called sloppy, stumblefingers, etc.  And yet I'd rather listen to him play any day of the week over the others because his playing moves me, much more than those technical geniuses.  That's the bottom line...does the playing move you emotionally.  If it does, who cares about prowess?Same with Garcia.  He'll never be mentioned in the same breath as those technical monsters and yet his playing is somehow very special.  It has space, it breathes, and it is very patient.

And what about Gilmour? There's just something on his playing, which sholdn't be too difficult for more technical guitar players to emulate. However, I have not heard any other player get that kind of emotion out of a guitar.

Dellinger wrote: Finnforest wrote: TODDLER wrote: Guitarists who find Page laughable...later discover that his songs require precision and are technical in some cases. They are baffled and ask..."How can he get away with being sloppy?" Because he's Jimmy Page. Because he can. What else can you say really? I hear you Toddler.  I've heard it for years, how much better Blackmore/Beck/Clapton/Satriani are than Jimmy Page, he is called sloppy, stumblefingers, etc.  And yet I'd rather listen to him play any day of the week over the others because his playing moves me, much more than those technical geniuses.  That's the bottom line...does the playing move you emotionally.  If it does, who cares about prowess?Same with Garcia.  He'll never be mentioned in the same breath as those technical monsters and yet his playing is somehow very special.  It has space, it breathes, and it is very patient.  And what about Gilmour? There's just something on his playing, which sholdn't be too difficult for more technical guitar players to emulate. However, I have not heard any other player get that kind of emotion out of a guitar.

The only one that comes close to that style is Steve Rothery from Marillion.

Dellinger wrote: Finnforest wrote: TODDLER wrote: Guitarists who find Page laughable...later discover that his songs require precision and are technical in some cases. They are baffled and ask..."How can he get away with being sloppy?" Because he's Jimmy Page. Because he can. What else can you say really? I hear you Toddler.  I've heard it for years, how much better Blackmore/Beck/Clapton/Satriani are than Jimmy Page, he is called sloppy, stumblefingers, etc.  And yet I'd rather listen to him play any day of the week over the others because his playing moves me, much more than those technical geniuses.  That's the bottom line...does the playing move you emotionally.  If it does, who cares about prowess?Same with Garcia.  He'll never be mentioned in the same breath as those technical monsters and yet his playing is somehow very special.  It has space, it breathes, and it is very patient.  And what about Gilmour? There's just something on his playing, which sholdn't be too difficult for more technical guitar players to emulate. However, I have not heard any other player get that kind of emotion out of a guitar.

For those that say Page was sloppy ; I think, at times Steve Howe could be somewhat sloppy too. And not to forget, what they're playing is never exactly simple, nor conventional.

I regret I voted on Lazy. I've just listened to SIBLY and my mind rapidly changed. 

Since I've Been Loving You, one of my favorite LZ songs

Tom Ozric wrote: For those that say Page was sloppy ; I think, at times Steve Howe could be somewhat sloppy too. And not to forget, what they're playing is never exactly simple, nor conventional.

I love them both but "Since I've Been Loving You", has, as mentioned elsewhere, more emotion and totally encapsulates how I feel about the blues in music.

thwok wrote: I haven't yet met the quals to vote in polls.  However, Dellinger's post is valuable because I've always stayed away from listening to Deep Purple.  They've always struck me as a less creative version of Uriah Heep, and I don't like primarily keyboard-driven rock.  However, I will know listen to Lazy and probably enjoy it.  Since I've Been Loving You is the best song on the substandard Led Zeppelin III album.

Substandard?! Led Zeppelin 3?!! Really?!!!! Find me another album that mixes great blue grass guitar (Bron Yr Aur Stomp, the catchy heaveiness of Out On The Tiles (a hit single for anyone else, Zeppelin couldn't be bothered), the awesome power of Immigrant Song - check JPJ's bass work in what would be choruses to another band. Who else is cool enough to introduce the bass at the end of (the C guitar tuning of That's The Way) near the end of the number which has already such aural depth. Tangerines' delicacy and precise solo, the understated evil of Friends, the monumetal chord structure for SIBLY, the trikery of the usal end of album blues in Hat's Off. And that most odd ball of hard rock numbers Celebration Day.

Not to mention the revisit in the Page Plant Unledded: No Quarter Days where the (no, I hadn't forgotten) was based around Gallows Pole and the often neglected Four Sticks from the wonderful fourth album. Both numbers incidentally were played once or twice in the Zeppelin live time but finally got their recognition in the 1990s

I wish there were more sub-standard albums like this, I'd be more broke than ever.

Deep Purple were masters of the intertwining riff in e.g. loads of In Rock, had orchestral works (Concerto x 2 and The Gemini Suite). They were fine improvisers and still give great concert. Lazy when done complete is a lot of fun and another refreshing take on the Blues.

Oh and bothe bands are drum driven. Ian paice was there from there beginning and still there; no Bonham, no Zeppelin.

Outside interest by Purple members reveal the depth and breadth, Paice's big band jazz, the soul (Hughes), Glover's theatrical productions, Blackmore and folk, Bolin and jazz, Lord's classical music. To get an idea I recommend the Second Concerto recording with a lot of solo ventures on disc 1 and that riveting CD 2. Their friend Ronnie Dio turns up to help out on Smoke. And the orchestral ballads are stunning performances.