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    Posted: September 27 2013 at 23:36
I was listening to the Black Sabbath song "Tomorrow's Dream" with a friend yesterday and I asked him, "Have you ever noticed how a few Black Sabbath songs have these weird bleeping sounds in them?" He said he never noticed. So I pointed it out but he said he wasn't hearing it. I moved my hand each time it happened, but he still didn't hear it and told me I was crazy. I've noticed them forever both listening to them on my computer, CD, and my friend's vinyl, so it's not like a scratch or anything.

Someone, tell me I'm not the only one who hears this! And if anyone happens to know, what is making that sound? What it intentional? I always thought it was kind of interesting but I never heard anyone mention it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 00:01
I do remember hearing "Paranoid" on the radio a few times, and when Tony gets a spot to play that riff there's a chance I will hear this "plyum-plyum". Something strange. Maybe it's Tony accidentally hitting some muted treble strings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 01:34
With some of the Black Sabbath tracks during the hard riffing sections I pick up what I percieve to be Iommi's chord hand squeaking on the strings as he changes chords. I seem to remember that "Tomorrow's Dream" had that effect although maybe not on all of the "Volume 4" release printings.     
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 01:46
Ah, so I wasn't going crazy. I thought it was coming from the guitar somehow. 
I just listened to Paranoid, and I'm not sure if I noticed anything in particular, although I don't doubt there's something there, but I could definitely hear his hand scraping against the strings which might show how his way of playing causes those little sounds.
The sound on Tomorrow's Dream is maybe the most clear. It's during the verse and seems intentional because it's always on the "2 and" beat.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 07:00
I just listened, and I think what you're hearing is some background percussion - they use s cowbell and tambourine together, and I think the two together make what seems like a high clicking sound.  This particularly happens on the verse, in a rhythmic fashion as you said.  I couldn't detect any hand-scrape-on-guitar-strings sounds.

It's my favorite Black Sabbath song, and for as long as I've listened to it, I've never singled out those sounds before, so thanks for pointing it out .


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 07:55
On a somewhat related note, I have always wondered what the HELL is that "beep" in Aqualung????

At 4:37 in this clip.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 08:01
I know that Iommi goes to a wrong chord somewhere in Cornucopia, it cracks me up every time.....I think it's just before the last verse....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 08:17
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

On a somewhat related note, I have always wondered what the HELL is that "beep" in Aqualung????
At 4:37 in this clip.

I don't know, maybe some technical defect in record only. 

But listen here carefully, here is some REAL "beep" at 1:04 !!!!

But seriously - you are true. In 70's I had Aqualung on magnetic tape only and I was think long time, that  some "black out" is on my tape.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 19:09
Originally posted by sukmytoe sukmytoe wrote:

With some of the Black Sabbath tracks during the hard riffing sections I pick up what I percieve to be Iommi's chord hand squeaking on the strings as he changes chords. I seem to remember that "Tomorrow's Dream" had that effect although maybe not on all of the "Volume 4" release printings.     

I always thought that chord changing slide noise was totally cool Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 22:10
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by sukmytoe sukmytoe wrote:

With some of the Black Sabbath tracks during the hard riffing sections I pick up what I percieve to be Iommi's chord hand squeaking on the strings as he changes chords. I seem to remember that "Tomorrow's Dream" had that effect although maybe not on all of the "Volume 4" release printings.     

I always thought that chord changing slide noise was totally cool Thumbs Up

Yeah it was and is Iommis style, hear it on a lot of his playing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2013 at 22:32
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

On a somewhat related note, I have always wondered what the HELL is that "beep" in Aqualung????

At 4:37 in this clip.


Gotta be a finger slide along a string.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2013 at 02:09
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by sukmytoe sukmytoe wrote:

With some of the Black Sabbath tracks during the hard riffing sections I pick up what I percieve to be Iommi's chord hand squeaking on the strings as he changes chords. I seem to remember that "Tomorrow's Dream" had that effect although maybe not on all of the "Volume 4" release printings.     

I always thought that chord changing slide noise was totally cool Thumbs Up

Yeah it was and is Iommis style, hear it on a lot of his playing.

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I agree - love that sound. Iommi had that Industrial accident with his fingers causing him to use a thimble that he used to attach to a finger - possibly that had something to do with his style?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2013 at 02:38
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

On a somewhat related note, I have always wondered what the HELL is that "beep" in Aqualung????
At 4:37 in this clip.
Gotta be a finger slide along a string.


In Focus' "Le Clochard" this "side effect" sounds so natural, that it is inherent part of beautiful music atmosphere for me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2013 at 01:17
Originally posted by sukmytoe sukmytoe wrote:

Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by sukmytoe sukmytoe wrote:

With some of the Black Sabbath tracks during the hard riffing sections I pick up what I percieve to be Iommi's chord hand squeaking on the strings as he changes chords. I seem to remember that "Tomorrow's Dream" had that effect although maybe not on all of the "Volume 4" release printings.     

I always thought that chord changing slide noise was totally cool Thumbs Up

Yeah it was and is Iommis style, hear it on a lot of his playing.

Smile
I agree - love that sound. Iommi had that Industrial accident with his fingers causing him to use a thimble that he used to attach to a finger - possibly that had something to do with his style?

I think the most important thing his accident/thimble situation did for Black Sabbath is they were the first band to tune guitar and bass down 2 full steps to D.  Iommi has said that he had to downtune to allow him to bend strings without extreme pain.  That down-tuned sound put the heavy in heavy metal Headbanger
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2013 at 16:05
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

On a somewhat related note, I have always wondered what the HELL is that "beep" in Aqualung????

At 4:37 in this clip.


Gotta be a finger slide along a string.


It is indeed Ian Anderson's finger sliding on his acoustic. On my equipment it definitely is not a "beep" at 4:37 but a squeak on a string.
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