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Larree ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 10 2013 Location: Hollywood, CA Status: Offline Points: 869 |
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Wow. Tubes is still bashing on Gentle Giant? Damn dude. What happened? They wouldn't let you blow them after a show? And speaking of Gentle Giant shows. I saw them a bunch of times and they were one of the best live bands I ever saw.
But seriously, Tubes. It's okay if you don't like them. I think you have "funny ways." ![]() ![]() ![]() Funny Ways by Gentle Giant I'm sorry to have been so much of a bore
But in my own funny way I find I learn much more. I realise what you think from your eyes, But in your own funny ways I find I learn much more. My ways are strange They'll never change They stay, strange ways I'm sorry to have been so close from the start, But for all that I cared we could be miles apart. I understood that you never would Understand a way of life that I never could. My ways are strange They'll never change They stay, strange ways Go your own way or wait for me Go your own way or wait for me Go your own way or wait for me Go your own way or wait for me And so you see what happened to me Since the time when I judged my life in nights and days I realised that my life was lies So you see what I mean with all my funny ways. I'm sorry to have been so much of a bore But in my own funny way I find I learn much more Funny ways, Funny ways, Funny ways, Funny ways. Edited by Larree - June 20 2013 at 13:15 |
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Don't even get me started on Misplaced Childhood. There's enough wonderful poetry there to keep us analyzing for days. "So I reached for a bottle and he reached for the door, and I picked up the sleeping pills crushed in the floor. Inviting me to casual obscenity"
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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Agalloch are blowing my mind these days.
The album. ASHES AGAINST THE GRAIN. Here are the opening lyrics... The texture of the soul is a vermillion flood From a wound carved from an oath; it fills the riverbank a sanguine fog These arms were ment to be lost! Hacked, severed and forgotten The texture of timevidvs whisper that echoes across the flood It's hymn resonates from tree to tree, though ever sullen bough it sings These boughs were said to be lost! Torn, Unearthed and broken Earth to flesh, flesh to wood, cast these LIMBS into water Flesh to wood, wood to stone, cast the stone into water.... Ok. Wow. This is heavy doom and gloom and such a bleak outlook on the nature of our souls. What do you guys think? Beautiful and brutal right? |
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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I like it, "Hacked, Severed and Forgotten" could have been the title of a Peter Hammill song. I was intrigued so I hit youtube and listened to the whole album. First time I've heard them...vaguely remind me of My Dying Bride's, "As the Flower Withers". Nice marriage of words and music...though without your translation I doubt I could have picked them out
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mrtortoise ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2013 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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Wow, thanks for the links, interesting work!
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14608 |
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In the end Tubes has started something interesting. This sugests me a sentence from Fabrizio de Andre'
"nothing gets birth from diamonds, flowers get birth from manure"
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671 |
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Lot of great lyrics around but I have always loved Harper's poetry .....
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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My all-time favorite lyricist is Toby Driver. Look up some of his work in Kayo Dot, it's mesmerizing. I've used excerpts of a handful of his songs as signatures here.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18164 |
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Interesting that the wisest of the fools would quote that and assume himself a bigger fool? Judging others ... make sure you can look in the mirror first ... and not throw up!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18164 |
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I would think that it was more obvious that he is making a comment ... like ... what a waste of a good ___ that was! Like that has not happened with so many groupies hanging around! And Dean's following discussion ... is almost right there, too! We have this image that the lyrics ... are so saintly and clean and ... I think I will go throw up along with Roy Harper and Kevin Ayers!
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Incubus continues from where The Web finishes. For clues compare "You're all but forgotten, A mote in my heart" from The Web with " I've played this scene before, I the mote in your eye" from Incubus - they are thematically linked through photographs "Faded photos exposing pain"/"The darkroom unleashes imagination in pornographic images".
The Web was about a person not letting go after the end if a relationship, Incubus is the same person discovering compromising photographs from that relationship and realising the embarassment they could cause to the ex-girlfriend now. "With no flower to place before this gravestone" is merely an observation that there is no one mourning the death of that old relationship.
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Second Life Syndrome ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 20 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 361 |
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Oh, come on, dude. Name-calling, and then quote the Bible? Have you no grace at all? Stop giving Christianity a bad name through your relentless bombast of this forum. PLEASE!
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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Yeah. I guess I should have warned people about the 'vocal' work and style on ASHES TO THE GRAIN. It's the best I know and clearly the musicianship is what I really enjoy most with Agalloch. I absolutely love the interplay with the acoustic and electric guitars. So brilliant!! Also. The grim, bleak nature of the album had me totally curious. Their are moments where HAUGHM has a softer vocal approach where is a little easier to digest and make out the lyrics! All in all. Agalloch are a great find for me and I bought 'the mantle' as well. Should be another poetic genius effort that will arrive in my mailbox next week. Anyway. Glad you liked it! |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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Also. Have you listened to Van Der Graf Generator's GoldBluff? To you have an appreciation in General For Hammil's song writing lIke say for, ARROW. ? Anyway how. Just curious. I want to explore more of VDGG's music. |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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The continuation of THE WEB eh? Wow. Very interesting and the way you explain it sounds quite accurate. Thank for this. :) |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18164 |
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With the exception that you are saying that to a group of people that do not read poetry and do not know/understand that it has a history of thousands of years and is a literary concept ... and they do not know if the lyrics they like fit the mold or not, and worse ... many of them are not interested in finding out! So, what's left? ... the obvious comparison! Or as John Lennon would say ... working class heroes! There are MANY great poets in rock music. But, sadly, many of them are buried in a bunch of "lyrics" because no one knows/reads anything else, to get a better idea of what it is all about. And just like here, most can only quote the top ten, and they have no idea that they are mis-representing the word "poetry" grossly! All they are doing is making Stairway to Heaven and Mick Jagger sound like poetry! And they aren't! But that's not to say that they can not write very nice lyrics that stand up well, and folks remember them! One kinda has to learn to read these things away from the music ... the work stands up very well. Most pop music and even Genesis lyrics, do not stand up well to poetry, but they are very well written, and defined, to make it better ... there was an effort by Peter Gabriel to make this "better" than just a lyric! FISH is good, probably more clever than good, but not a "poet" per se. Fish is more of an actor with the words, than anything which helps the story telling side of things ... he knows how to act through these! Roy Harper and Peter Hammill in his solo works would be the bonafide true poets of progressive music, in the past 40/50 years. There are others, and it's hard to not consider Patti Smith and her style, either, but sadly, the majority of folks here are not interested in a serious discussion on poetry ... they can only discuss their "favorites"! ... and of course, compare it to Genesis! ... gotta have the token mention!
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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Absolute bullsh*t on a stick....and despite the more obvious moments in the intitial recordings and debut album from Marillion, they completely moved away from that and made their own style very quickly. It's a lazy recycled ignorant opinion from someone who probably never bothered to actually listen to more than a few bits of their music.
Cool...Yes, Genesis is one of the legends for a reason, but thanks for completely dismissing an entire sub-genre of bands that have put out some amazing music too. ![]() Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - June 23 2013 at 10:39 |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Ya, you could say I've heard Godbluff...I bought the masterpiece in 1977
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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I found a clip of "Incubus" with Fish explaining his lyrical intention. He doesn't specifically mention "The Web" or the "flower and gravestone", but does tell an amusing story of an embarrassing photograph ![]() |
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