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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18164 |
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Sometimes, I just want to ... get mad. Poetry is a LITERARY FORM that has history ... like THOUSANDS OF YEARS. For you and I to sit here and say that "lyrics" for rock music and specially "songs", are poetry, is a bit facile, silly, and also ... more than likely a bit uneducated, in terms of the history of the art form. From my point of view, a lot of "lyrics" will become the "new poetry", sometime about 100 years from now, but it is too difficult for almost all the posters in this thread to see a bit beyond their senility and drunken'ess ... not that I feel any different saying all this! ... that there could be something that one day will be called "poetry" and will be a part of that literary tradition ... you and I, have no idea, and will NEVER be able to make a proper distinction in our lifetimes ... but there is something that we can do ... create enough literary/essayist discussion about the lyrics of a piece or two ... but no ... the only thing that some folks can do is say GG is trash, and have no ability to break it down piece by piece as to why ... well, sheeeeeeepppp ddddiiiiipppp!!!! ... you know how many people were offended by "Our Lady of Flowers" ... and everyone upset that the French literatii were all excited that they got something over all the other intelectuals that were kissing T S Elliot's shorts? You got it ... same thing here! It was, the perfect ... number one ... ooopppsss ... finger! (just like Mad Magazine that one time!) I doubt that anyone here that is discussing FISH, PG and such, have ever read Peter Hammill away from the music, or Roy Harper away from the music, or Pete Sinfield away from the music to be able to make a decent evaluation of the written work that those folks created ... and that's a problem ... you will never read a Byron, a Shelley, a Shakespeare, a Milton, a Waldo, a Rabelais, a ... whoever ... but your "knowledge" of "lyrics" makes you qualified to discuss/compare it to "poetry"? Weird ... your TA or professor will give you a D- with the difference being that you at least spent a little time typing it ... we hope! Now you know, based on the posts in this thread, why so much of rock music is not taken seriously ... because we behave like idiots and do not have the ability, or desire, to show it as much better than it really is ... prog or not is not the issue ... your attitude is! Now, do me a small favor ... grow up and help make the music we love more important by discussing it correctly, not in terms of you like and you don't like! Thanks |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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That's a cheap Motivation tactic. ![]() I'm honestly considering that I'd rather listen to Barbara Strisand sing in the shower over Dylan. |
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refugee ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026 |
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What’s so funny with Server not found? But come on, you’re all off topic. Forget that he doesn’t like GG, he wanted to hear if there are any serious analysis of prog lyrics. As far as I can see, only my brother has contributed to that debate yet. |
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H26rfN5H8J0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
K guys. Watch this! It's funny. Oh and Scott (ACR) sorry for the sh*tty link. Cut and paste is tiresome. :) |
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Another factoid tying Jimi & Dylan. One of the innumerable Hendrix bio's tells the story of his first time in the studio after moving to Britain. He was super self-conscious about his voice and someone told him to listen to Bob Dylan...that if Dylan could sing on a record, Jimi surely could
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18164 |
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Go back to the beginning ... put on "Blonde on Blonde" ... forget the rest! Listen to the whole double album ... and by the time you hear ... she knows what she needs and I know what she wants (something like that) ... you will understand the cynical and sometimes totally satirical voicing of his. This is not about "love" ... this is about crap and bs! ... just alike here on this thread already! The words are well defined. If you want to hear these better, you can always put on Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Sandy Denny, Bryan Ferry, Jimi Hendrix ... and then realize ... these are nice words!
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HemispheresOfXanadu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 28 2012 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4339 |
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Hehe. Implying that lyrics are the most important part of prog.
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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Lol I love it when he says that before he belts out the live version on FLIGHT 666. Great live album. Iron Maiden still got it even after all these years. B.D sings just as well as he did 20 years ago. He is a true professional. |
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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^this
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HarbouringTheSoul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 21 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Correct. Would you like it if somebody said to you: "Hey, that band you really like? They actually suck." Edited by HarbouringTheSoul - June 17 2013 at 12:49 |
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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I'm not usually big on Iron Maiden lyrics, but I concur. The Rime of the Ancient Mariner is fantastic.
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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Looks like an agenda to me. The OP of this thread ought to be more interesting than your actual intentions, in my opinion.
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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Also. One last thing. Sammy Cool's Rime of the ancient mariner is one of my all time favourites.
I also especially like Iron Maiden's wonderful track adaptation of the poetic work itself. Well done Bruce!! |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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I really want to clear by saying I don't like being overly critical or negitive towards musicians. I do understand the simplicity of bob's approach to his music. I just can't stomach it. Poetic or not, his voice is a deal breaker.
It's like a pair of testicals on a woman....just not cool. Lol |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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You got it buddy. It's tough to ignore. He should just recite it as in using a first person 'narrative' approach. Lol say it don't sing it bob!!! Hey....that should be the title for my new book. Lol |
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AtomicCrimsonRush ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
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With Dylan I admit his lyrics are incredible such as JokerMan - my fave, and his singing then was not too bad, but he has gotten worse, and a friend talked me into seeing him live.... worse $50 I ever spent for a concert. He said nothing, sung all his new songs nobody cared about, no classics were sung, no Blowing, Joker, Hurricane or Blues, just a wasted waste of waste. Back to poetry... Jokerman - THATS poetry! But the voice is like sandpaper scraping out grandpa's undies with a shredder.... yeah, its bad!
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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I'm the same, Nick....Can't stomach him, and worse still I don't relate at all to his words. I remember someone once telling me `No, ignore his voice, listen to his words...', and I came back with something like `Yeah, but...kind of hard to ingore the voice when he's a SINGER, that's the whole point of what he's doing' lol! ![]() |
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