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Pinkhead
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OT Räihälä
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Posted: May 09 2012 at 02:52 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Pushed boundaries? Liverpool used French chanson in their music, mixed sitar with R&B with experimentalism ... they practically invented pop-prog, pulled off backwards guitar, developed a technique of changing timbre by changing speed on tape (although that was G. Martin's fault), ... lots of technical and songwriting stuff.
What did Cambridge do? They kind of continued that vein. |
So, it has thus become a game between Cambridge United and Everton?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 09 2012 at 03:03 |
^ I don't know. It's been a long time since I've watched a soccer match, let alone one that has both teams none of which are Russian.
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MrMagoo99581
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Posted: May 09 2012 at 05:27 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Pushed boundaries? Liverpool used French chanson in their music, mixed sitar with R&B with experimentalism ... they practically invented pop-prog, pulled off backwards guitar, developed a technique of changing timbre by changing speed on tape (although that was G. Martin's fault), ... lots of technical and songwriting stuff. What did Cambridge do? They kind of continued that vein.
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Well I see your point, but to my ears at least, the Beatles "experimental period" was mostly just poppy songs dressed up with weird sound-effects and non-rock instruments, many times courtesy of their producer. They never went as far as something like Ummagumma or the Atom Heart Mother suite. I still love the Beatles though.
Edited by MrMagoo99581 - May 09 2012 at 10:23
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resurrection
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 01:03 |
For a poll like this on this site, The Beatles are perhaps way too mainstream popular. Like it or lump it, ANY band is nowhere near The Beatle's fame and influence - there wouldn't even be such a thing as a rock band but for The Beatles. Of course, that doesn't mean we HAVE to like them, just acknowledge who they are.
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NYSPORTSFAN
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 07:17 |
resurrection wrote:
For a poll like this on this site, The Beatles are perhaps way too mainstream popular. Like it or lump it, ANY band is nowhere near The Beatle's fame and influence - there wouldn't even be such a thing as a rock band but for The Beatles. Of course, that doesn't mean we HAVE to like them, just acknowledge who they are. |
Both different bands but what the Beatles have over in Pink Floyd by a wide margin IMO. The Beatles combined form and content in articulate, imaginative, immediate pieces that made them an influence on just about everybody in rock/pop music and even extending to other genres. They pulled off "I Am The Walrus", "Revolution", and "Martha My Dear" in one year. Syd Barrett was listenting really studying to Revolver the loops, altered vocals, reversed tapes, proto sampling elements, drones, cut up lyrics for one on "Tomorrow Never Knows" was basically the complete kit for what Pink Floyd would use for their sound.
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Junges
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 08:27 |
PF. Beatles is the most overrated band ever.
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giselle
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 08:57 |
You are Joking!
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geneyesontle
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 16:40 |
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. The Beatles changed the history of music forever. I think without the Beatles, progressive rock wouldn't exist. And I think without the Fab Four, music would be like s**t. Floyd was also great, but nobody can reach The Beatles. These guys were not just a band, they did everything before any other band. They will never be replaced. So, my vote goes to the Fab Four.
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 16:59 |
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 19:11 |
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Pink Floyd didn't The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times. Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide Pink Floyd had sold 200 million albums worldwide Every song of every Beatles record is well known Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer And the list goes on and on...
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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geneyesontle
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 19:13 |
geneyesontle wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Pink Floyd didn't The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times. Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide Pink Floyd had sold 250 million albums worldwide Every song of every Beatles record is well known Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer And the list goes on and on... |
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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The T
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 20:49 |
Pink Floyd by approximately 2567900000 nautical miles, the distance between the abbey street and that dark side of the satellite.
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The T
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 20:51 |
geneyesontle wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.Vastly more talented. |
I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Pink Floyd didn't The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times. Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide Pink Floyd had sold 200 million albums worldwide Every song of every Beatles record is well known Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer And the list goes on and on... |
Oh so now we measure achievement by the rate of approval of Rolling Stone magazine and the number of records sold and number of top hits? Damn, quite strange for a prog fan.
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 00:17 |
^^^ Um, if we did measure it only in terms of influence and importance to music, Beatles would still beat the daylights out of Pink Floyd. I don't know why this question cannot be decided only on account of personal preference, though. If somebody likes PF more than Beatles, he likes it, that's all. Nothing to justify there.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 00:56 |
This comparison raises some interesting issues: As far as creating popular music that has become an acknowledged reference point across all secular cultures, it's more than likely that anyone > 40 years old can name all four Beatles and sing several of their songs: this is NOT true of Floyd. However, DSotM is probably on a par with anything the Beatles created (purely in terms of becoming a cultural artefact recognised at a global level etc). BTW They both had crap drummers
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 01:34 |
I love one Beatles album (Abbey Road) and like two more.
I love at least 5 Pink Floyd albums.
No matter how influential The Beatles are, I go the The Floyd
Iván
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:06 |
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Pink Floyd didn't |
I can't care less for Rolling Stones Magazine, as a fact I consider an honor being ignored by RS
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times.Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time |
I care even less for Biillboard than about Rolling Stones Magazinne
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwidePink Floyd had sold 200 million albums worldwide |
I care even less for sales than about Billboard
geneyesontle wrote:
Every song of every Beatles record is well knownPink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother |
Most of the bands I love are unknown by 90% of the people.
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrerPink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer |
Well...The Beatles songs lasted an average 3.00 minutes
Pink Floyd has much longer songs as a fact they have 13 songs over 10 minutes with a total time of 3 hours 16 minutes, 48 seconds (Only that 11 songs represent an average of 65 Beatles songs. )...Not counting the 48 Pink Floyd songs between 5:01 and 9:49 minutes.
I prefer longer songs (5 - 6 minutes average)
BTW: Pink Floyd's songwriting career didn't lasted 31 years, only 27, their last studio album was released in 1994.
In other words, statistics mean very little when talking about music.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 16 2012 at 02:11
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:32 |
geneyesontle wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Pink Floyd didn't
The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times.
Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time
The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide
Pink Floyd had sold 250 million albums worldwide
Every song of every Beatles record is well known
Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother
The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer
Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer
And the list goes on and on... |
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I have a hammer and some nails I can give you, you can seal yourself in your own coffin. I probably can count on one hand how many people on this site care about Rolling Stone or Billbord...........
Those are bold comments in red.......ouch!
Ivan did a fine job disecting your list. Give me any obscure album over any beatles album and I will be happy...I prefer not to follow the masses.
Edited by Catcher10 - June 16 2012 at 02:34
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progresssaurus
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:35 |
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