The Beatles vs. Pink Floyd
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Topic: The Beatles vs. Pink Floyd
Posted By: adace1
Subject: The Beatles vs. Pink Floyd
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 16:30
This one is pretty difficult for me. I'm going with Beatles by a hair.
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Posted By: Mastosis
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 16:40
Didn't even have to think about it - Pink Floyd all the way!
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 16:53
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 16:54
Comparing apples and oranges to me. I am usually in a different mood to listen to either group. An exception is sometimes I could want to listen to PF or some latter day Beatles Both are obviously monsters with huge followings of fans and groups but I listen to PF much more.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 16:58
I like both, but not equally. My vote goes to Pink Floyd.
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Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 17:00
Beatles - love them both, but no choice to be made here.
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Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 18:01
Equal.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 18:46
Equal. One cannot replace the other, nor can I listen to one when I am in the mood for the other.
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Posted By: dave-the-rave
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 19:29
I voted Floyd because their music speaks to me emotionally... but I respect the Beatles and what they accomplished enormously. Likely have been no Floyd had there been no Beatles.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 21:25
tdfloyd wrote:
Comparing apples and oranges to me. I am usually in a different mood to listen to either group. An exception is sometimes I could want to listen to PF or some latter day Beatles Both are obviously monsters with huge followings of fans and groups but I listen to PF much more. |
You took the words out of my mouth, or my fingers in this case.
Both have different moods, and were quite important in the development of rock music, maybe the Beatles having an edge on this department, but Pink Floyd meant more for progressive music in general, and rock in particular.
I indeed listen to Floyd more than the Beatles, but really enjoy both bands, depending on the mood I'm into.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 22:23
Pink Floyd easily. Though I do like The Beatles too.
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Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 06:37
I've never voted against Pink Floyd in similiar polls, this is no exception.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 06:38
The Beatles.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 06:39
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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Besides Gilmour I don't see it myself. Vastly?
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 06:42
Snow Dog wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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Besides Gilmour I don't see it myself. Vastly? |
Wright might also be a better keyboardist than Macca, but that's it. Besides, Beatles are more talented composers.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 06:55
rogerthat wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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Besides Gilmour I don't see it myself. Vastly? |
Wright might also be a better keyboardist than Macca, but that's it. Besides, Beatles are more talented composers. |
Perhaps he is. But vastly superior? Well I suppose some may say so.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 06:57
You are right, I wouldn't say he was VASTLY superior to Macca either. He had a knack for coming up with beautiful textures like very few keyboardists I have heard but not technically such a big deal. And Macca was a better songwriter by far too.
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: November 28 2010 at 08:23
Posted By: Follix
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 02:47
Macca is a better bassist/musician than Waters but I give a small edge to Waters versus Lennon on lyrics tho. Gilmour destroy Harrison on guitar, total mismatch (Whatever Rolling Stones magazine says ) Wright was the best pianist of both band but also the worst musician if we exclude the drummers.
And although Lennon/McCartney is the best songwriting pair in history I don't see how a band with Ringo Starr as a drummer can knock off the mighty Floyd and the Gilmour effect is just too important.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 11:03
Follix wrote:
And although Lennon/McCartney is the best songwriting pair in history I don't see how a band with Ringo Starr as a drummer can knock off the mighty Floyd and the Gilmour effect is just too important.
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Why not, they have Nick Mason and not Billy Cobham at drums. That apart, the reason is there in your sentence, because songwriting is very important and Beatles arguably wrote the better songs.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 11:34
tempted to vote Floyd
but can't vote against the Beatles
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equal :)
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 12:13
I understand why Beatles are popular but I can't connect with their music. It has no sex. Pink Floyd however came close to a pagan orgy in the 60s!
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Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 14:50
I think pound-for-pound the Beatles were more talented. Specifically with regard to songwriting and vision. They of course had a bigger impact on music in general. Still, Pink Floyd is simply my favorite band of all time. Their music is more compelling to me. So I voted for Floyd.
I think its easily possibly to recognize an artist as "greater" than another, but to personally enjoy the other artist more. There's about 20 artists I enjoy more than the Beatles (#20 is still pretty high on my list, since I 'm a fan of hundreds of artists)
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 17:15
Follix wrote:
but I give a small edge to Waters versus Lennon on lyrics tho.
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Waters himself disagrees about that... and for once I agree with him
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 18:20
The Beatles
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 19:30
Bonnek wrote:
I understand why Beatles are popular but I can't connect with their music. It has no sex. Pink Floyd however came close to a pagan orgy in the 60s!
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I could not have articulated this any better.....Bonnek is my new hero
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Posted By: Majikthise
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 23:55
Pink Floyd for sure. But they're both incredibly important bands who have influenced countless, so it really doesn't matter.
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 00:17
equal !
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Posted By: pied piper
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 04:18
Posted By: parapet
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 07:48
The Beatles may be the most influential rock band ever as well as most important for progressive rock, they did all those experimental things first, and i think they were PF's biggest influence. So if i could vote, i'll do it for>
PINK FLOYD
of course!
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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 10:52
The Beatleeeees! besides being ingenious they are more varied (to my mind).
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Posted By: claugroi
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 16:21
Ridiculous. I like Pink Floyd very much, but comparing any band to The Beatles is a sin !
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 16:36
For you Beatles fans
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/deconstructing_helter_skelter/ - http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/deconstructing_helter_skelter/
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Posted By: ferush
Date Posted: November 30 2010 at 19:40
The melodic innovation is pure and net progression with The Beatles. No Beatles no Floyd.
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Posted By: Geizao
Date Posted: December 01 2010 at 11:08
Come on.... Floyd never been the same old Floyd again without Beatles.
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 17:02
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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Go walk yourself off a vastly tall cliff. Just kidding, big fella! But seriously, how can you say that? I'll go with those lads from Liverpool.
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Posted By: LakesideRitchie
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 12:41
It's been said before. Apples and oranges. The Beatles came before Pink Floyd, apart from a slight overlap from 67 to 70. It is said that they were more than aware of each other's work while working in the Abbey Road studio's. I guess they influenced each other in the latter days of the Fab. Still both bands are incompatible and incomparable. They each have merits of their own. Prog ows a lot to both. Impossible to chose. Picking one of them to listen to is a question of mood.
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Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 13:17
It's a valid poll if the OP is interested in other's opinions on this site.I think one group had a more positive influence on their contemporaries, but that's just my opinion.
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 13:52
I grew up with The Beatles, they were my musical heroes for years. Their song writing skills are unmatched and the impact they made will never be repeated. I think. However, funnily enough, I can't remember when I last gave any of their albums a spin, whilst I listen Floyd regularly. Maybe Floyd's music has stood the test of time better? Might be as simple as that.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 14:00
For me it's easy: Pink Floyd.
Although I like many Beatles songs and I admit that the Beatles are probably the most important group in pop / rock, I'm still in the first place a fan of progressive rock and in that respect Pink Floyd is one of my top favourite bands. From the Beatles only Abbey Road and maybe Sergeant Pepper are albums that are up there in my list of favourite albums.
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Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 14:43
Two of my favourite bands. The Beatles are heroes. Possibly they did better songs, Floyd made better albums, better masterpieces. And as Pink Floyd can make me cry, and Beatles don't, emotionally I think Pink Floyd are far ahead. I go for Floyd.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 22:43
Three genius songwriters versus one would have been genius songwriter (if he hadn't blown his mind apart with acid), a genius lyricist and a genius guitarist.
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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 01:22
I really like the Beatles but PF move me more musically
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Posted By: King Winter
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:35
Harold-The-Barrel wrote:
I really like the Beatles but PF move me more musically |
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Posted By: overmatik
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 06:20
Ok, The Beatles came first and Rock n' Roll was shaped by them. They turned Rock into an art form, but only later in their career, and Sgt. Peppers is their masterpiece. But then PF came with their 1st album and blew Sgt. Peppers out of the water, then they released The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall. So is a no-brainer really.
By the way, about the RS list of the best guitarists, let's just say that they rated Kurt Cobain above Mark Knopfler...
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 06:40
love both but give my vote to the floyd because the MORE soundtrack has been a very special happening to me when i was 13, one of my first albums,with the beatles i only got single records
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 07:35
Pink Floyd by far
I don't understand why create such a poll, like it's been previously said, it's really like comparing apples to oranges.
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Posted By: ThinLizzy
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 07:39
Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath are my favourite bands.
However, i voted for The Beatles, because they were the most important/infuential band in the history of rock.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 08:06
Cristi wrote:
Pink Floyd by far
I don't understand why create such a poll, like it's been previously said, it's really like comparing apples to oranges. | apples and oranges? it's an old BARRET song, BEATLES had only apples!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 08:13
jean-marie wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Pink Floyd by far
I don't understand why create such a poll, like it's been previously said, it's really like comparing apples to oranges. | apples and oranges? it's an old BARRET song, BEATLES had only apples! |
I know Apples and oranges is an early PF song
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Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 08:21
Obviously on a prog website Pink Floyd is going to win even against a giant like the Beatles
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 08:50
let prog reign wrote:
Obviously on a prog website Pink Floyd is going to win even against a giant like the Beatles
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Posted By: overmatik
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 09:59
ThinLizzy wrote:
Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath are my favourite bands.
However, i voted for The Beatles, because they were the most important/infuential band in the history of rock.
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I know that the Beatles are the most influential band of all time, but I don't agree that they are the greatest rock band ever just because they were the first. They were a great band, but there were so many bands that expanded their work. The Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Yes, Genesis etc...
Is the same thing with Black Sabbath/Iron Maiden. Everybody agrees that Black Sabbath invented hard rock, but the fact is that Maiden took the genre beyond and it is the greatest metal band ever.
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Posted By: ThinLizzy
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 10:26
overmatik wrote:
ThinLizzy wrote:
Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath are my favourite bands.
However, i voted for The Beatles, because they were the most important/infuential band in the history of rock.
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I know that the Beatles are the most influential band of all time, but I don't agree that they are the greatest rock band ever just because they were the first. They were a great band, but there were so many bands that expanded their work. The Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Yes, Genesis etc...
Is the same thing with Black Sabbath/Iron Maiden. Everybody agrees that Black Sabbath invented hard rock, but the fact is that Maiden took the genre beyond and it is the greatest metal band ever.
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Exactly. They were the most important band, not the best.
As far as Black Sabbath and heavy rock are concerned, this is another complicated story.
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 11:39
Los Beatles
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 11:40
Seems I had already voted
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 13:05
Catcher10 wrote:
Bonnek wrote:
I understand why Beatles are popular but I can't connect with their music. It has no sex. Pink Floyd however came close to a pagan orgy in the 60s!
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I could not have articulated this any better.....Bonnek is my new hero |
I can articulate it much better.
"If I Fell"; "Michelle"; "Girl"; "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"; "This Boy"; "Something", etc. Not to mention "Why Don't We Do It In The Road".
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 13:37
What? (done in the now classic Firesign Theater voice)
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 13:39
overmatik wrote:
ThinLizzy wrote:
Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath are my favourite bands.
However, i voted for The Beatles, because they were the most important/infuential band in the history of rock.
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I know that the Beatles are the most influential band of all time, but I don't agree that they are the greatest rock band ever just because they were the first. They were a great band, but there were so many bands that expanded their work. The Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Yes, Genesis etc...
Is the same thing with Black Sabbath/Iron Maiden. Everybody agrees that Black Sabbath invented hard rock, but the fact is that Maiden took the genre beyond and it is the greatest metal band ever.
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What? (done in the now classic Firesign Theater voice)
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: January 31 2011 at 14:00
Pretty much a tie. Both are very near the top of my list.
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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: February 01 2011 at 09:07
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: February 03 2011 at 16:53
Floyd every time, against anyone
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: February 04 2011 at 11:04
This poll is as massive in music as comparing Christianity to Islam!
I'm agnostic with this pair of fantastic bands.
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: February 04 2011 at 11:05
No wait....
The Beatles are bigger than Jesus, I forgot!
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Posted By: CloseToTheMoon
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 14:40
Beatles for song craft Floyd for album craft......and the fact that they actually toured.
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Posted By: Schindleria Praematu
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 16:39
The Beatles of course were a bigger influence, and made better pop songs, but we're on a progresive rock site, so Pink Floyd has to be the winner out of the two, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and The Wall, are all time prog classics.
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 16:41
Posted By: Jarvig
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 17:19
Easy. Pink Floyd is the best band ever. Beatles bigger and more important. But - for me - not as good.
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 18:54
Simple answer: You wouldn't even have PF without The Beatles, so...
The Beatles.
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 02:58
Beatles is good for beginning. A good starting point to climb Pink Floyd mountain.
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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 04:20
I prefer Pink Floyd to the Beatles in the sense that i will play their music more often and, on balance, enjoy it more.
However, the Beatles represent so much more than just music. They are nostalgia, history, politics, fashion, comedy, movies, growing up, drugs, front page news, biography, religion and love. They are larger than life. They are John, Paul, George and Ringo. They are the single iconic representation of an entire decade.
Pink Floyd can't compete with all that.
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 07:59
This is, I presume, some kind of joke?
Floyd by several light years.
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 08:13
The Beatles were better breakdancers while Pink Floyd had better bagpipe solos.
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Posted By: overmatik
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 08:22
You know what, the thing with judging the Beatles is the fact that the Beatlemania still lives in the hearts of millions of people, so they judgment of Beatles's music is distorted. Let us see some 50 years from now when all the people who were alive in the 60s are dead, and let's see how the new generation will rate the Beatles and the Floyd.
But then again, to some people on this forum Radiohead is better than the Floyd, so you never know...
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 19:28
If you limit the bands to the overlap period, I give a slight edge to the Beatles. Another one of those pairings where I wouldn't be without either in my collection.
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Posted By: Steven Brodziak
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 21:38
There isn't a Beatles song that was ever recorded that can make put me into another world like old Floyd can and does.
Floyd by leaps and bounds.
Beatles were talented, no doubt but not for sheer sound of Floyd.
Floyd has so many FUM's (F.U. moments)
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 23:47
ten years after:
"However, the Beatles represent so much more than just music. They are nostalgia, history, politics, fashion, comedy, movies, growing up, drugs, front page news, biography, religion and love. They are larger than life. They are John, Paul, George and Ringo. They are the single iconic representation of an entire decade. Pink Floyd can't compete with all that."
Superbly put!
Overmatik:
"You know what, the thing with judging the Beatles is the fact that the Beatlemania still lives in the hearts of millions of people, so they judgment of Beatles's music is distorted. Let us see some 50 years from now when all the people who were alive in the 60s are dead, and let's see how the new generation will rate the Beatles and the Floyd."
Actually, you have it exactly backward. It is almost a certainty that 100 years from now, 200 years from now, 300 years from now, The Beatles' music will still be played - like Bach, Beethoven, Mozart - while Pink Floyd (as amazing as they are) will be a distant memory (like....Frescobaldi...LOL)
Peace.
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Posted By: overmatik
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 12:12
maani wrote:
ten years after:
"However, the Beatles represent so much more than just music. They are nostalgia, history, politics, fashion, comedy, movies, growing up, drugs, front page news, biography, religion and love. They are larger than life. They are John, Paul, George and Ringo. They are the single iconic representation of an entire decade. Pink Floyd can't compete with all that."
Superbly put!
Overmatik:
"You know what, the thing with judging the Beatles is the fact that the Beatlemania still lives in the hearts of millions of people, so they judgment of Beatles's music is distorted. Let us see some 50 years from now when all the people who were alive in the 60s are dead, and let's see how the new generation will rate the Beatles and the Floyd."
Actually, you have it exactly backward. It is almost a certainty that 100 years from now, 200 years from now, 300 years from now, The Beatles' music will still be played - like Bach, Beethoven, Mozart - while Pink Floyd (as amazing as they are) will be a distant memory (like....Frescobaldi...LOL)
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Wow, I didn't know you had the ability to preview the future? Just because you think that way doesn't mean it will happen, you know that, right?
What I can guarantee you is that 100 years from now Kanye West, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry won't be remembered, but that one is easy to foresee...
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Posted By: Stonebolt
Date Posted: February 18 2011 at 09:06
I went with Pink Floyd. I love both bands. The Beatles are more consistent for me. There is some Pink Floyd that I don't consider any good, but the good Pink Floyd stuff is well... really good.
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Posted By: Stonebolt
Date Posted: February 18 2011 at 09:10
What I can guarantee you is that 100 years from now Kanye West, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry won't be remembered, but that one is easy to foresee...
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Kanye and Katy? No. Gaga, possibly. We still remember Micheal Jackson and Elvis don't we. They were the pop monarchs of their day. And Elvis was over fifty years ago, who's to say he won't last another fifty?
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Posted By: Follix
Date Posted: February 19 2011 at 01:44
Beatles were songwritting genius (Lennon probably the best ever) but in musical skills they were all lacking except Paul. While Floyd were less good at songwritting but better musician overall, I find its the most balanced band that ever existed between songwritting (Waters) and talent (Gilmour/Wright) so I choose them. At the other side of the spectrum you got band like Rush with medium songwritting but extremely skilled musicians.
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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 19 2011 at 02:28
I dunno about Floyd being better musicians. Ringo is a better drummer than Nick, Paul is definitely a better bassist than Roger. Between George and David it's close, both were about as equally skilled as guitarists, neither were virtuosos but they're two of the most tasteful players of all time.
I'd probably give the edge to The Beatles actually.
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Posted By: Follix
Date Posted: February 19 2011 at 17:13
boo boo wrote:
I dunno about Floyd being better musicians. Ringo is a better drummer than Nick, Paul is definitely a better bassist than Roger. Between George and David it's close, both were about as equally skilled as guitarists, neither were virtuosos but they're two of the most tasteful players of all time.
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Ringo better than Nick, its a joke?
Paul a better bassist than Roger, yes
No contest for me between George and David as a guitar player tho, David win easy not as a songwriter but as a muscian, hell yes. 90% of George solo are only slide with some notes while Gilmour can do bends that no one on Earth can do. Even Syd was a better guitarist than George imo.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 19 2011 at 17:15
I'll agree that Ringo is superior to Nick.
In any case though The Beatles are much better.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 20 2011 at 22:08
equally
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Posted By: JakeMM626
Date Posted: February 20 2011 at 22:22
I'm just not gonna read this thread, because I know that both sides will be defending their opinion to the death.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 00:24
Floyd every day of the week. I hate the Beatles.
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Posted By: overmatik
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 09:34
Wow, that one made my day. Comparing George Harrison to Dave Gilmour... Next time people will be comparing Paul McCartney to God Lee.
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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 11:01
I can't believe this poll, someone must have spammed the voting heavily. How can you even compare the two? The Beatles are so much above Floyd that it's like putting a heavy-weighter in the same ring with a flyweighter.
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Posted By: overmatik
Date Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:03
OT Räihälä wrote:
I can't believe this poll, someone must have spammed the voting heavily. How can you even compare the two? The Beatles are so much above Floyd that it's like putting a heavy-weighter in the same ring with a flyweighter. |
Well, tell us why you think that. But please, refer to Beatles' music, and don't come with the whole influential thing. The Beatles are the most influential rock band ever, this is common sense. We are talking about music here.
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: March 14 2011 at 16:37
I voted for the 3rd option, because of Abbey Road.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 14 2011 at 18:14
I can think of very little Beatles that is unnecessary. For me, each song is an evolution which results in Abbey Road, the ultimate and perfect album. The concise, psychedelia, the beautiful vocals, the experimentation with styles.
Sure, they played it mostly safe. Yes, they had Paul pushing vaudeville moments and despite the excellent drugs, they never exploded music on its side. But, they made more daring moves within those little 4 minute extravaganzas than most of their peers.
Floyd? They are great experimenters. Syd was ace at writing some ear catching and crazy songs (but when added up all his songs, it was a small percentage IMO). The instrumentalists are good in both bands and this is not a contest of players, but of ideas and catalogue.
Aside from the latter day hit albums of Floyd (Moon, Wish, Animals, Wall) I struggle to find other perfect albums along the way. The soundtracks are ditties and have some good stuff and a lot of filler. The experimental album would have been better condensed into a track the length of Revolution #9. The bombastic albums about breakfast and with dogs vocoding had some stand out bits, but were not fully packed. It's not really until Moon that we get an album as consistently good as Piper.
For me, the Floyd ultimately became very conservative in their output and point of view. The Beatles were a wider screen, I believe and they said so much more than the rants of Mr. Waters ultimately did.
But, of course, that's my opinion, not objective fact...
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Posted By: sallan75
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 11:44
maani wrote:
Actually, you have it exactly backward. It is almost a certainty that 100 years from now, 200 years from now, 300 years from now, The Beatles' music will still be played - like Bach, Beethoven, Mozart - while Pink Floyd (as amazing as they are) will be a distant memory (like....Frescobaldi...LOL)
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Umm yeah, when I was growing up in the 80's and 90's the teens loved Floyd and they still love them today. Ask some teen guy who doesn't look like a teeny bopper or hipster doofus and he will probably say metal and floyd. Beatles is old people music and it sounds old. I can listen to Meddle and it sounds like it was recorded two weeks ago, Beatles sound like old man music. Dethklok would say it was recorded using grandpa guitars.
Anyone who thinks the Beatles are better obviously likes pop and for the retards saying Harrison is better than Gilmour, come on, that is one battle how blind you are The Beatles couldn't win.
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Posted By: sallan75
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 12:06
The other thing is the Beatles albums come on, 70% are forgettable. They were a single releasing pop band. I am listening to the White album now and have skipped 2/3 of it. Up to Waters departure Floyd albums stood tall, all song as important as the last. More people I know now love the Floyd, as I said Beatles sound old, haven't stood the test of time and some of their songs sound childish. As to whether Pink Floyd would exist without the Beatles, how do you know they wouldn't?
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Posted By: Keki
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 13:52
Despite The Beatles being fundamental to the development of Rock Music, I'll say Pink Floyd. Their albums are much more complex and meaningful than The Beatles' albums
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Posted By: kevin4peace
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 02:01
The Beatles, but only because they are the best band of all time. The Floyders aren't too far behind.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 02:09
Phideaux wrote:
I can think of very little Beatles that is unnecessary. For me, each song is an evolution which results in Abbey Road, the ultimate and perfect album. The concise, psychedelia, the beautiful vocals, the experimentation with styles.
Sure, they played it mostly safe. Yes, they had Paul pushing vaudeville moments and despite the excellent drugs, they never exploded music on its side. But, they made more daring moves within those little 4 minute extravaganzas than most of their peers.
Floyd? They are great experimenters. Syd was ace at writing some ear catching and crazy songs (but when added up all his songs, it was a small percentage IMO). The instrumentalists are good in both bands and this is not a contest of players, but of ideas and catalogue.
Aside from the latter day hit albums of Floyd (Moon, Wish, Animals, Wall) I struggle to find other perfect albums along the way. The soundtracks are ditties and have some good stuff and a lot of filler. The experimental album would have been better condensed into a track the length of Revolution #9. The bombastic albums about breakfast and with dogs vocoding had some stand out bits, but were not fully packed. It's not really until Moon that we get an album as consistently good as Piper.
For me, the Floyd ultimately became very conservative in their output and point of view. The Beatles were a wider screen, I believe and they said so much more than the rants of Mr. Waters ultimately did.
But, of course, that's my opinion, not objective fact...
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Wow, missed this. Well said, sir! Beatles may not have appeared sonically daring most times but as composers, they were miles ahead of Floyd. I would only like to add here that George's solo on Something beats every single Gilmour solo. Not because it is so well played but because it is so well written. Unlike so many other rock groups, Beatles' work emphasizes again and again that it's all about how well you write the music, not just how well you play it.
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Posted By: EchidnasArf
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 16:51
I love both for completely different reasons. But just for fun...
Vocals: Lennon>McCartney>Waters>Harrison>Barrett>Gilmour>Starr Guitar: Gilmour>Harrison>McCartney>Lennon>Barrett Bass: McCartney>Waters Keyboards/Piano: Wright>McCartney>Lennon Drums: Mason>Starr
Studio productions: flat out tie. We're talking two bands with arguably the best produced studio albums ever! Pink Floyd's Gilmour era gave us albums with extreme depth, clarity, and separation. The Beatles' studio work was extremely innovative, imaginative, and influential on the likes of.... everybody.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 18:38
Jeepers Kreepers! Used to hate the Beatles. Then for a while I just 'liked' them. Now they're one of my all-time favorite bands. Still, Pink Floyd took me many places. When ya git raht down to it - I love both, but to me, Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here seemed like much more 'completely together' albums than either Abbey Road or White Album.
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Posted By: jav1919
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 19:25
The Beatles are great, but I like Pink Floyd the best.
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