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Poll Question: Which tune from 1975 do you prefer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:29
Shine On You Crazy Diamond by light years. Kashmir, while a great tune, is kind of dull and goes on for way too long. The atmosphere and the lyrics is what attracts me to the tune. Jimmy's riff is pretty cool too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:34
I like both songs but i've gone for Kashmir, mainly because IMO it was the best track they played when I watched them at Knebworth in 1979.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:39
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Kashmir is good, one of the best LZ songs, but no contest for Shine On You Crazy Diamond.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:48
If by Part 1 you man Parts I-V, Shine on.
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 17:54
I really love Kashmir, but Shine On may just as well be my favourite song of all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 20:33
Originally posted by PyramidMeetsTheEye PyramidMeetsTheEye wrote:

isnt kashimr from led zeppeling and arent led zeppelin an hard rock band

After Yes' Tales came out---Jimmy Page said in an interview in Melody Maker---(I own lot's of vintage Melody Makers) that he wanted to do something artistic and complex like Yes did with Tales---then Kashmir and that whole album came out by Zep and it was their version of arty Zep---it may not be prog in the purist sense--but it's not just blues oriented hard rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 21:15
What a hilarous turn of events. Here we have a blues-based band Zeppelin composing a prog song, "Kashmir", and Pink Floyd, a psych-prog band, composing a blues-based song, "Shine On". And yet everyone votes for the blues-based song!  I'll go with "Kashmir" here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 21:50
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

What a hilarous turn of events. Here we have a blues-based band Zeppelin composing a prog song, "Kashmir", and Pink Floyd, a psych-prog band, composing a blues-based song, "Shine On". And yet everyone votes for the blues-based song!  I'll go with "Kashmir" here.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 23:47
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Here we have ... Pink Floyd, a psych-prog band, composing a blues-based song, "Shine On".

Come again? You might as well call it a blues-based composition with synthesizers.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 00:06
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Here we have ... Pink Floyd, a psych-prog band, composing a blues-based song, "Shine On".

Come again? You might as well call it a blues-based composition with synthesizers.
 
I don't believe I stuttered. It is a blues-based song, particularly Part I. Whether there are synthesizers in it has no bearing on the fundamental composition. Or Gilmour's blues riffs, for that matter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 00:10
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Here we have ... Pink Floyd, a psych-prog band, composing a blues-based song, "Shine On".

Come again? You might as well call it a blues-based composition with synthesizers.
 
has no bearing on the fundamental composition. 

You mean you are not happy with the riffs and synths?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 00:20
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Here we have ... Pink Floyd, a psych-prog band, composing a blues-based song, "Shine On".

Come again? You might as well call it a blues-based composition with synthesizers.
 
has no bearing on the fundamental composition. 

You mean you are not happy with the riffs and synths?
 
No, I really like the composition. A great modification of the blues. There are many blues-based tunes from the 60s that had synthesizers, so it's not novel in that sense.  I was merely amused at the irony of the voting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 05:52
Kashmir.


One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 07:43
Shine On You Crazy Diamond
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:24

Led Zeppelin may be my favorite band of all time.

 
But the first half of the Shine On suite is a much better piece of music than Kashmir and it's not even close. Floyd at their peak power. 
 
 
Kashmir is monstrously over-rated.
 
No Quarter on the other hand would have been hard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:40
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Led Zeppelin may be my favorite band of all time.

 
But the first half of the Shine On suite is a much better piece of music than Kashmir and it's not even close. Floyd at their peak power. 
 
 
Kashmir is monstrously over-rated.
 
No Quarter on the other hand would have been hard.
 
 
Agree with all that Jay.  No Quarter, Rain Song, Stairway, Ten Years Gone, Achilles.....all would have been harder contests for me. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:48
^Kashmir is way better than all those. Well...maybe not the powerhouse that is...Achilles Last Stand!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 10:03
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Shine On. 

Kashmir is pretty boring. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 10:11
Instinct told me to go for Kashmir, but that was my anti-Pink Floyd bias speaking. Not that I hate Pink Floyd, but I like them significantly less than most people (same with Led Zeppelin but much less severe). I prefer Led Zeppelin as a band and Kashmir is pretty great, but I have to agree that it's overlong. Shine on Pt 1 is one of my favorite Pink Floyd songs, so it wins. It sounds like it was performed by anesthetists (like almost everything by them), but it's a pleasant anesthesia.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 10:56
Can't choose. Both are monumental.
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