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harmonium.ro 
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 Posted: June 28 2011 at 13:08 |
Opel used to be good - German engineering for those who can't afford Merc, BMW, Audi, VW. Did they survive the crisis? I heard they were took over and I don't know what they're building now.
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Those old Citreons are ugly!
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Well, you like prog-metal...
It's definitely dated now, but I think I would have looked at it differently back in the 70s.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 13:22 |
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Opel are part of General Motors now, I think.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 13:24 |
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^ which are part of Fiat now if I'm not wrong.
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Dean
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 13:24 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Opel used to be good - German engineering for those who can't afford Merc, BMW, Audi, VW. Did they survive the crisis? I heard they were took over and I don't know what they're building now. |
Opel/Vauxhall are doing remarkably well as far as I can tell - it was the parent company (GM) that got into difficulties. The Insignia was 2009 European Car Of The Year.
harmonium.ro wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Those old Citreons are ugly! |
Well, you like prog-metal...
It's definitely dated now, but I think I would have looked at it differently back in the 70s. |
I didn't.
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Dean
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 13:26 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ which are part of Fiat now if I'm not wrong. |
Nope. The Fiat deal to buy Opel fell through.
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 15:06 |
Dean wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Opel used to be good - German engineering for those who can't afford Merc, BMW, Audi, VW. Did they survive the crisis? I heard they were took over and I don't know what they're building now. |
Opel/Vauxhall are doing remarkably well as far as I can tell - it was the parent company (GM) that got into difficulties. The Insignia was 2009 European Car Of The Year.
harmonium.ro wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Those old Citreons are ugly! |
Well, you like prog-metal...
It's definitely dated now, but I think I would have looked at it differently back in the 70s. |
I didn't. |
In the UK - They are Vauxhalls right?
In Australasia we badge them as Holden's. Mines is a gun metal grey version of this:
Edited by Chris S - June 28 2011 at 15:07
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 15:08 |
Dean wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ which are part of Fiat now if I'm not wrong. |
Nope. The Fiat deal to buy Opel fell through. |
Thanks, I didn't know what happened eventually.
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 15:40 |
Fiat owns Ferrari though  , and Lamborgini was a tractor manufactorer before they started to make spacecraft looking cars  .
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 02:42 |
As a matter of interest & a relevant side note to this discussion, how much are people here paying for petrol/gas/diesel?
Locally, it's recently dropped to £1.34 per litre 
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 02:51 |
CAN$1.30 /L here in Vancouver... that's come down $0.11 in the last week... in 2001 it was CAN$0.48 /L 
Edited by King By-Tor - June 29 2011 at 02:52
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Dean
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 03:02 |
Don't know what it is today, it was £1.37 a litre on Monday but the price variation across the county is pretty discraceful in Hampshire and can vary by 5p/ltr, with my town being the most expensive (non-Motorway) for some reason.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 03:22 |
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 04:05 |
Jim Garten wrote:
As a matter of interest & a relevant side note to
this discussion, how much are people here paying for petrol/gas/diesel?
Locally, it's recently dropped to £1.34 per litre |
Converting with Google tells me it's paying around $0.91 per liter, but that's lower than the average for the US.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 04:10 |
Jim Garten wrote:
As a matter of interest & a relevant side note to this discussion, how much are people here paying for petrol/gas/diesel?
Locally, it's recently dropped to £1.34 per litre |
LPG/GPL is costing €0.57/l in Belgium, €0.65/l in France and €0.65 in The Netherlands... these are summer prices... count an added €0.10/l in the winter (the mix of propane and butane switches from 60/40 to 40/60)
but I remember buying it in Southern Belgium some three years ago at €0.28/l
QUOTE=Henry Plainview]
Jim Garten wrote:
As a matter of interest & a relevant side note to this discussion, how much are people here paying for petrol/gas/diesel?
Locally, it's recently dropped to £1.34 per litre  |
Converting with Google tells me it's paying around $0.91 per liter, but that's lower than the average for the US. [/QUOTE]
I think you've got your conversion wrong (given that the £ is around 1.5$)... It should around or over $2.00/l
Edited by Sean Trane - June 29 2011 at 04:13
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 04:16 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
As a matter of interest & a relevant side note to
this discussion, how much are people here paying for petrol/gas/diesel?
Locally, it's recently dropped to £1.34 per litre |
Converting with Google tells me it's paying around $0.91 per liter, but that's lower than the average for the US. |
I think you should have converted the other way 'round - I get $2.13. EDIT: Ninja'd
Edited by harmonium.ro - June 29 2011 at 04:17
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Dean
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 04:21 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
As a matter of interest & a relevant side note to this discussion, how much are people here paying for petrol/gas/diesel?
Locally, it's recently dropped to £1.34 per litre |
Converting with Google tells me it's paying around $0.91 per liter, but that's lower than the average for the US. |
£1.34 is $2.14 - so we're paying ~2½ times more than the US (still) 
(can't work in price per gallon because the US and UK gallons are different :
1 US Gallon is 0.83 Imperial Gallons or 3.785ltr, 1 Imperial Gallon is 4.546ltrs)
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Dean
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 04:23 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
As a matter of interest & a relevant side note to this discussion, how much are people here paying for petrol/gas/diesel?
Locally, it's recently dropped to £1.34 per litre |
Converting with Google tells me it's paying around $0.91 per liter, but that's lower than the average for the US. |
I think you should have converted the other way 'round - I get $2.13.
EDIT: Ninja'd
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 Nick was converting US Gallons to Litres, not GBP to Dollars
Edited by Dean - June 29 2011 at 04:24
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 05:47 |
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Glad you like it. |
THIS one is really ugly  (and you haven't seen the front face yet  )
Edited by Sean Trane - June 29 2011 at 05:50
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 05:48 |
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^ I think I saw that in the "worst 50 cars ever" top from Time Magazine... :))
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