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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2011 at 01:44
Beatles were songwritting genius (Lennon probably the best ever) but in musical skills they were all lacking except Paul.
While Floyd were less good at songwritting but better musician overall, I find its the most balanced band that ever existed between songwritting (Waters) and talent (Gilmour/Wright) so I choose them.
At the other side of the spectrum you got band like Rush with medium songwritting but extremely skilled musicians.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2011 at 02:28

I dunno about Floyd being better musicians. Ringo is a better drummer than Nick, Paul is definitely a better bassist than Roger. Between George and David it's close, both were about as equally skilled as guitarists, neither were virtuosos but they're two of the most tasteful players of all time.

I'd probably give the edge to The Beatles actually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2011 at 17:13
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I dunno about Floyd being better musicians. Ringo is a better drummer than Nick, Paul is definitely a better bassist than Roger. Between George and David it's close, both were about as equally skilled as guitarists, neither were virtuosos but they're two of the most tasteful players of all time.

I'd probably give the edge to The Beatles actually.


Ringo better than Nick, its a joke?

Paul a better bassist than Roger, yes

No contest for me between George and David as a guitar player  tho, David win easy not as a songwriter but as a muscian, hell yes. 90% of George solo are only slide with some notes while Gilmour can do bends that no one on Earth can do. Even Syd was a better guitarist than George imo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2011 at 17:15
I'll agree that Ringo is superior to Nick.

In any case though The Beatles are much better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2011 at 22:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2011 at 22:22
I'm just not gonna read this thread, because I know that both sides will be defending their opinion to the death.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2011 at 00:24
Floyd every day of the week.  I hate the Beatles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 09:34
Wow, that one made my day. Comparing George Harrison to Dave Gilmour...LOL Next time people will be comparing Paul McCartney to God Lee.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 11:01
I can't believe this poll, someone must have spammed the voting heavily. How can you even compare the two? The Beatles are so much above Floyd that it's like putting a heavy-weighter in the same ring with a flyweighter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:03
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

I can't believe this poll, someone must have spammed the voting heavily. How can you even compare the two? The Beatles are so much above Floyd that it's like putting a heavy-weighter in the same ring with a flyweighter.


Well, tell us why you think that. But please, refer to Beatles' music, and don't come with the whole influential thing. The Beatles are the most influential rock band ever, this is common sense. We are talking about music here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2011 at 16:37
I voted for the 3rd option, because of Abbey Road.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2011 at 18:14
I can think of very little Beatles that is unnecessary.  For me, each song is an evolution which results in Abbey Road, the ultimate and perfect album.  The concise, psychedelia, the beautiful vocals, the experimentation with styles. 

Sure, they played it mostly safe.  Yes, they had Paul pushing vaudeville moments and despite the excellent drugs, they never exploded music on its side.  But, they made more daring moves within those little 4 minute extravaganzas than most of their peers.

Floyd?  They are great experimenters.  Syd was ace at writing some ear catching and crazy songs (but when added up all his songs, it was a small percentage IMO).  The instrumentalists are good in both bands and this is not a contest of players, but of ideas and catalogue.

Aside from the latter day hit albums of Floyd (Moon, Wish, Animals, Wall) I struggle to find other perfect albums along the way.  The soundtracks are ditties and have some good stuff and a lot of filler.  The experimental album would have been better condensed into a track the length of Revolution #9.  The bombastic albums about breakfast and with dogs vocoding had some stand out bits, but were not fully packed.  It's not really until Moon that we get an album as consistently good as Piper.

For me, the Floyd ultimately became very conservative in their output and point of view.  The Beatles were a wider screen, I believe and they said so much more than the rants of Mr. Waters ultimately did.

But, of course, that's my opinion, not objective fact...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2011 at 11:44
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

 
Actually, you have it exactly backward.  It is almost a certainty that 100 years from now, 200 years from now, 300 years from now, The Beatles' music will still be played - like Bach, Beethoven, Mozart - while Pink Floyd (as amazing as they are) will be a distant memory (like....Frescobaldi...LOL)
 
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Umm yeah, when I was growing up in the 80's and 90's the teens loved Floyd and they still love them today. Ask some teen guy who doesn't look like a teeny bopper or hipster doofus and he will probably say metal and floyd. Beatles is old people music and it sounds old. I can listen to Meddle and it sounds like it was recorded two weeks ago, Beatles sound like old man music. Dethklok would say it was recorded using grandpa guitars.

Anyone who thinks the Beatles are better obviously likes pop and for the retards saying Harrison is better than Gilmour, come on, that is one battle how blind you are The Beatles couldn't win.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2011 at 12:06
The other thing is the Beatles albums come on, 70% are forgettable. They were a single releasing pop band. I am listening to the White album now and have skipped 2/3 of it. Up to Waters departure Floyd albums stood tall, all song as important as the last. More people I know now love the Floyd, as I said Beatles sound old, haven't stood the test of time and some of their songs sound childish. As to whether Pink Floyd would exist without the Beatles, how do you know they wouldn't? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2011 at 13:52
Despite The Beatles being fundamental to the development of Rock Music, I'll say Pink Floyd. Their albums are much more complex and meaningful than The Beatles' albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2011 at 02:01
The Beatles, but only because they are the best band of all time. The Floyders aren't too far behind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2011 at 02:09
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

I can think of very little Beatles that is unnecessary.  For me, each song is an evolution which results in Abbey Road, the ultimate and perfect album.  The concise, psychedelia, the beautiful vocals, the experimentation with styles. 

Sure, they played it mostly safe.  Yes, they had Paul pushing vaudeville moments and despite the excellent drugs, they never exploded music on its side.  But, they made more daring moves within those little 4 minute extravaganzas than most of their peers.

Floyd?  They are great experimenters.  Syd was ace at writing some ear catching and crazy songs (but when added up all his songs, it was a small percentage IMO).  The instrumentalists are good in both bands and this is not a contest of players, but of ideas and catalogue.

Aside from the latter day hit albums of Floyd (Moon, Wish, Animals, Wall) I struggle to find other perfect albums along the way.  The soundtracks are ditties and have some good stuff and a lot of filler.  The experimental album would have been better condensed into a track the length of Revolution #9.  The bombastic albums about breakfast and with dogs vocoding had some stand out bits, but were not fully packed.  It's not really until Moon that we get an album as consistently good as Piper.

For me, the Floyd ultimately became very conservative in their output and point of view.  The Beatles were a wider screen, I believe and they said so much more than the rants of Mr. Waters ultimately did.

But, of course, that's my opinion, not objective fact...
 
Wow, missed this. Well said, sir!  Beatles may not have appeared sonically daring most times but as composers, they were miles ahead of Floyd.  I would only like to add here that George's solo on Something beats every single Gilmour solo.  Not because it is so well played but because it is so well written. Unlike so many other rock groups, Beatles' work emphasizes again and again that it's all about how well you write the music, not just how well you play it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2011 at 16:51
I love both for completely different reasons. But just for fun...

Vocals: Lennon>McCartney>Waters>Harrison>Barrett>Gilmour>Starr
Guitar: Gilmour>Harrison>McCartney>Lennon>Barrett
Bass: McCartney>Waters
Keyboards/Piano: Wright>McCartney>Lennon
Drums: Mason>Starr

Studio productions: flat out tie. We're talking two bands with arguably the best produced studio albums ever! Pink Floyd's Gilmour era gave us albums with extreme depth, clarity, and separation. The Beatles' studio work was extremely innovative, imaginative, and influential on the likes of.... everybody.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2011 at 18:38
Jeepers Kreepers! Used to hate the Beatles. Then for a while I just 'liked' them. Now they're one of my all-time favorite bands. Still, Pink Floyd took me many places. When ya git raht down to it - I love both, but to me, Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here seemed like much more 'completely together' albums than either Abbey Road or White Album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2011 at 19:25
The Beatles are great, but I like Pink Floyd the best.
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