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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 02:02
when one says 'contemporary prog', could they be meaning bands like TFK, Neal Morse, Transatlantic, DT, PoS, PT, (aka the more famous bands) or do they mean all music considered prog in post-89 land? if it's the former, i could kind of agree (though i love most of those bands, except PoS which i have a problem getting into). If it's the latter...
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Back to the start of the thread:

I totally agree about Starcastle, but a s well as Marillion were doing Genesis music while Genesis were doing Abacab, I don't dislike them. 
Eloy had several periods. Their first two albums have lot of Uriah Heep, then the moved to Pink Floyd, but their 80s stuff goes from Jethro Tull to Yes.
Sabbath and Schizoid? Just influence for me. Or was it 21st Century paranoid man, instead ?Smile 
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Points: 10185 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 06:52
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

What did you have in mind?


I don't know, Jean Louis or Negura Bunget maybe

Try Kayo Dot. That, sir, does not remind me of anything ever made before.
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Starhammer, I hope that new image/icon/avatar you're is only temporary.  That killer murdered a sweet little nine year old girl and five other people.
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Points: 525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 12:19
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:


Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Wow, Ayn Rand was such a bitch
dipsh*t.
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Meh (Atlas Shrugged)
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\lambda_j = -\frac{4}{h^2} \sin(\frac{\pi (j-\frac{1}{2})}{2n + 1})^2
v_{i,j} = \sqrt{\frac{2}{n+0.5}} \cos(\frac{\pi (i-0.5) (2j - 1)}{2n + 1})
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

\lambda_j = -\frac{4}{h^2} \sin(\frac{\pi (j-\frac{1}{2})}{2n + 1})^2
v_{i,j} = \sqrt{\frac{2}{n+0.5}} \cos(\frac{\pi (i-0.5) (2j - 1)}{2n + 1})


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Originally posted by akajazzman akajazzman wrote:

Starhammer, I hope that new image/icon/avatar you're is only temporary.  That killer murdered a sweet little nine year old girl and five other people.

I'll remove it now if you're offended. Thanks for the heads up.
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After listening to as much music as I have for as long as I have, I find something familiar in everything I  listen to.  No matter what it is, it will remind me of something else.  To paraphrase Ian Anderson, "It's all the same notes just organized by a different monkey."
The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Points: 1321 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 13:42
I love how this little scrap is the equivalent of the 12 year olds arguing over which band is the most 'br00tal' on the Kerrang forums ... Just with older people ... who think this is a civilised argument

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Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 13:46
Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

What did you have in mind?


I don't know, Jean Louis or Negura Bunget maybe

Try Kayo Dot. That, sir, does not remind me of anything ever made before.


eh, their current avant-prog style is somewhat reminiscent of some other, older things.  Especially Coyote
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 13:52
Nothing is original.
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Points: 1433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 14:42
Regarding Led Zep -
 
It is customary, encouraged even, for blues musicians to adapt and develop each other's melodies and chord progressions. In the then-recent advent of Blues-Rock, such a principle applies doubly so with the new rock element there to play around with. Page commited no crime just as Emerson didn't with his Copland and Brubeck.
 
Anyway they aren't a prog band!


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Points: 1433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 14:46
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Nothing is original.
 
In a way, yes.
 
But everything which seems original seems original because, despite having influences, they are built-upon with fresh ideas, or fused with things that haven't been fused before. This is a creative process and therefore creates something new, which could be described as original.
 
Everything is slightly original, some things more, but nothing is TOTALLY original.
 
Lock a man in a room all his life with nothing but a piano: that would produce something very original! (but highly-likely to be a load of bollocks)


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Points: 11420 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 14:52
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

 
Lock a man in a room all his life with nothing but a piano: that would produce something very original! (but highly-likely to be a load of bollocks)


He'd probably invent furniture polish.
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Points: 374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 15:30
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Regarding Led Zep -
 
It is customary, encouraged even, for blues musicians to adapt and develop each other's melodies and chord progressions. In the then-recent advent of Blues-Rock, such a principle applies doubly so with the new rock element there to play around with. Page commited no crime just as Emerson didn't with his Copland and Brubeck.
 
Anyway they aren't a prog band!

Errr... but you're supposed to give credit! There's no excuse. They should have either made it a cover, or at least given credit (and royalties). 

I agree with you that it's as much of a crime as when Emerson did it with Brubeck, but you seem to think it wasn't a crime for some mad reason. It's just lucky that Brubeck wasn't too bothered about it. Not too sure about Copeland though.
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Points: 124 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 15:45
Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

Originally posted by akajazzman akajazzman wrote:

Starhammer, I hope that new image/icon/avatar you're is only temporary.  That killer murdered a sweet little nine year old girl and five other people.

I'll remove it now if you're offended. Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks.  Not offended just that his face makes me so angry.   I realize he's mentally ill, but I still hope somone kills him.
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 15:57
this further proves that progressive rock sucks. That's why I only listen to prog metal.
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Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2011 at 16:08
Originally posted by akajazzman akajazzman wrote:

Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

Originally posted by akajazzman akajazzman wrote:

Starhammer, I hope that new image/icon/avatar you're is only temporary.  That killer murdered a sweet little nine year old girl and five other people.

I'll remove it now if you're offended. Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks.  Not offended just that his face makes me so angry.   I realize he's mentally ill, but I still hope somone kills him.


This statement is more offensive than Starhammer's previous avatar
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